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Old Posted Mar 4, 2022, 6:36 PM
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A couple updates from the DC area this week:

WTOP: Phase 2 of Metro’s Silver Line delayed again

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The long-delayed opening of Metro’s Silver Line extension to Dulles International Airport and beyond has been pushed back again.

Last month, it was estimated that the 11.4-mile, six-station extension would open this spring. But a new projection was announced at Tuesday’s meeting of the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors’ transportation committee.

When Supervisor Walter Alcorn, who chairs the committee, asked when Phase 2 of the Silver Line would open, Martha Coello with the county transportation department gave a laugh before answering.

“That’s the million-dollar — billion-dollar question at this point. We believe early summer,” said Coello.
Mass Transit Magazine: Maryland Purple Line receives $1.7 billion replacement TIFIA loan

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Maryland’s 16.2-mile Purple Line project was approved for a $1.7 billion Transportation Infrastructure Finance and Innovation Act (TIFIA) loan through the Build America Bureau. The project had previously been approved for a $874.6 million TIFIA loan in 2016; this loan replaces and restructures the previous loan.
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The past year has seen the project that will provide an east-west light-rail connection between Bethesda in Montgomery County and New Carrollton in Prince George’s County, progress under a complex of umbrella of events that saw a new contractor enter the project, increasing costs and an opening date that slid into 2026.
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Md. lawmakers overturn Hogan’s veto, push for expanded MARC service
Measure calls for expedited projects and plans for run-through service to Virginia and Delaware

By Luz Lazo
Washington Post
4/10/22

“ Maryland passed legislation to expedite rail projects and expand commuter train operations, as state lawmakers on Saturday overrode the veto of Gov. Larry Hogan (R).

The measure, the Maryland Regional Rail Transformation Act, moves forward a plan that aims to extend MARC trains past Union Station in the District and into Virginia in coming years, and it requires Maryland to advance design of rail projects that could use federal infrastructure money.

“We have a once-in-a-generation opportunity to access billions of dollars at the federal level … and we felt like Maryland really had no plans to take advantage of that,” said Del. Jared Solomon (D-Montgomery), the lead sponsor of the legislation. “This bill very specifically mandates actual investments. We wanted there to be concrete steps for us to take advantage of the federal money.”

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and we felt like Maryland really had no plans to take advantage of that
How is it possible that state transportation officials aren't even doing planning? There should be plenty of planning going on so in the cyclical event that national political leadership is more favorable, funding can be applied for. It's an extremely discouraging thought that there actually is no one envisioning a better future. If it turns out that some of the explanation for why state governments are not out front in the planning is budgetary, then I think it's time to rethink what exactly USDOT is there for. I've felt for some time that a good deal of actual advanced planning for transport projects that will rely on a significant share of federal dollars should be done on the federal level with a long term cohesive vision and with the resources that only the federal government can provide. Overworked and penny pinching state DOT's are going to be next to incapable of formulating a grand plan to stitch their economies together with high speed rail networks. Case in point, the lack of them here while the world passes us by. If that's called "central planning" - so be it. I think it's what we need at least in terms of infrastructure.
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Old Posted Apr 18, 2022, 6:22 AM
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Dulles Corridor Metrorail Project Pictures 04 03 2022

All of the construction has been completed. The MWAA announced substantial completion of the mainline and stations of Phase II of the Silver line on 11 04 2021. On 12 01 2021 they announced substantial completion of Dulles Yard.

WMATA has taken possession of the project after those dates and is continuing the startup process of the testing and certification of all of the systems that support the operation of the line. The signaling system was displaying lunar aspects on the signals in the interlocking as if the railroad was running normal operations. In the more then 45 years I have been following the build out of the railroad, I have never seen this done prior to two weeks before the opening date.

The issues with the warped turnout ties, station and shop precast wall panels, improperly located signal head in Dulles Yard and selected pieces of equipment in the shop have been dealt with or corrected.

There are a small number of punch list items that are still being taken care of. Some of the third rail heaters were found to be not working this past winter and are being corrected. Some of the connectors (boots) that connect the third rail cables from the conduits to the cables that connect to the third rail were improperly installed and is being corrected.

The last of the concrete flat work was completed in late March at the Herndon north entrance. Everywhere else it is done. There have been some cracks in some of the concrete flat work that has been patched a various location. I was quite surprised at the quality of concrete flat work, there was virtually no locations where access panels, manhole cover, drain line clean out plugs and valve covers were not on the same plane as the finished concrete.

All of the way finding signage in the stations presently served by the Silver line have been updated to show the six new station on phase II of the line, (most of these signs have been in place for more then a year). The signage and around the station entrances has been installed including the signs on area roads that direct passengers to the stations. The only signs that have not been installed are the bus stop signs at the bus bays that identify what bus line(s) are served by those bus bays. I think this is because some of the bus routes that will serve the stations has not been totally finalized.

As to the opening date, as I write this no set date has been announced but it has been reported that the opening will likely happen in July at the earliest. Opening delays are no longer related to the construction activities but are now related to the reduced revenue from low ridership as the result of the "pandemic" requiring a higher subsidy to operate and the lack of rolling as the result of the removal of the 7k cars from service because of the bad wheel set.

I hope to make another trip before the extension opens to take some pictures I did not take because of the lack of time I had during this trip.

On an unrelated note. I was stunned at how many new data centers are now up and running or under construction sense I last visited the area in August of 2018.

Pictures at my Flicker Photo Stream DCMP 04 03 2022 album.

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Huge parking garage axed from Union Station expansion plans
Washington Business Journal | By Tristan Navera | May 5, 2022

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The Federal Railroad Administration is scrapping plans for an above-ground parking garage to serve a modernized Union Station as part of a major expansion of the landmark transit hub.

The FRA plans to present a revised concept for the station's modernization in July, National Capital Planning Commission staff said Thursday, and a 1,525-space parking garage will no longer be a part of the proposal. Instead, parking will be reduced by as much as 50% and moved underground.

The previous garage proposal had been panned as overkill, unnecessary and intrusive by D.C. leaders, Union Station neighbors and developer Akridge, owner of the air rights above the station's railyard that will one day be developed as "Burnham Place."

"These moves do have big implications for what happens above the tracks," NCPC Senior Urban Designer Matthew Flis said during the NCPC's monthly meeting, referring to Akridge's 14-acre, 3 million-square-foot Burnham Place. "It would begin to free up this area for some other kind of development and ... allow for better coordination with the adjacent air rights development."

The NCPC, a congressionally chartered planning board with approval authority for projects on federal land in D.C., had been a strong opponent of the parking structure. Commissioners said Thursday they were happy to see it nixed, which Chair Beth White said would set the stage for a better development over the tracks.

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Elections have consequences. It is good to see the Federal Railroad Administration willing to reduce the number of parking spots.

Federal Railroad Administration Will Revisit Union Station Proposal

February 10, 2021
By Nena Perry-Brown
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"It appears that the Federal Railroad Administration (FRA) listened to those who registered their disapproval of the recommended path forward for the expansion of Union Station.

Last week, the FRA announced that it is reconsidering the contents of its draft environmental impact statement (EIS) rather than moving forward with any alternatives at this time:

Following the end of the comment period for the Draft Environmental Impact Statement on September 28, 2020, FRA decided to revisit project planning for the Preferred Alternative. Informed by the feedback received from agencies, stakeholders, and the general public, FRA is presently working with the Project Proponents (Union Station Redevelopment Corporation and Amtrak) to review and refine project elements in cooperation with other key stakeholders.

When the FRA released the draft EIS in 2019, developer Akridge (who controls the development air rights above the Union Station railyard) spoke out against the liberal parking provisions included in the recommended configurations. Shortly afterward, others added their voices to the outcry against the presented options, including neighbors, councilmembers, the Mayor, DC's delegate to the House of Representatives, and the National Capital Planning Commission."

https://dc.urbanturf.com/articles/bl...proposal/17868
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Old Posted May 9, 2022, 4:28 PM
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This is absolutely fantastic news that will help make Union Station a thriving and walkable transit hub for the entire mid-Atlantic region.
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How does this relate to the existing Union Station garage over the tracks? I remember parking there with my mom's minivan on family trips in the 90s.

Is that what they're talking about in the article, or was it some kind of replacement garage that they just killed?

Interesting to compare this to Chicago, where Amtrak forced Riverside to build multiple underground levels of parking below the new BMO Tower, including fuel tanks so Amtrak can gas up their fleet vehicles. The completed project is still an improvement over the old hulking garage, but from certain angles it still feels like an ugly parking podium hidden under a green skirt.
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Of note, with Virginia studying possible extensions of the blue or yellow line south into Prince William County, an extension of the yellow line south from Huntington through Hybla Valley to Woodbridge (and beyond?) might be impacted by a potential blue line loop as shown below. Doing so would place three lines of service along the corridor between King Street and the Pentagon: the two current lines (from Franconia-Springfield and Huntington/possibly Hybla Valley/Woobridge) and a third line joining from National Harbor. So would the possible loop line nix extending south from Huntington and limit Virginia to expansion to Prince William County via extension from Franconia-Springfield? Does Metro really want three lines of service on the same corridor considering the challenges with the current three lines of service for the orange/silver/blue lines through DC?
Is there any future plans, or rather, has there been any plans in the past to develop a metro line that forms a ring around DC, connecting all the outer suburbs to each other?
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Is there any future plans, or rather, has there been any plans in the past to develop a metro line that forms a ring around DC, connecting all the outer suburbs to each other?
The Purple line light rail (which is under construction but significantly delayed) will connect the Maryland suburbs in Prince George's and Montgomery county, going from New Carrolton on one end to Bethesda. Continuing from Bethesda, however, there is a vast stretch to Tysons, which is complicated by crossing the Potomac.

https://www.purplelinemd.com/compone...pl-transit-map

https://www.purplelinemd.com/compone...-alignment-map
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This article is too optimistic, as this route is still in the study phase.

Light rail to Southern Maryland? That ‘choo-choo train will be rolling soon’

John Domen
May 23, 2022
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A map of the Southern Maryland Rapid Transit Project path. (WTOP/John Domen)

"Southern Maryland is no longer the sleepy, sparsely populated region it used to be, and that’s why local, state and federal lawmakers gathered in La Plata to tout millions to get the future Southern Maryland Rapid Transit Project on track and moving.

“That choo-choo train will be rolling soon,” said state Sen. Arthur Ellis, who has made the project a priority since arriving in Annapolis in 2019.

The light rail system would run between White Plains and the Branch Avenue Metro, making 13 stops total, five in Charles County, the other eight in Prince George’s County, carrying an estimated 24,000 to 28,000 people every day..."

https://wtop.com/charles-county/2022...-rolling-soon/
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Metro takes control of Silver Line extension, starting testing phase
The handover between the transit agency and the Metropolitan Washington Airports Authority is one of the final hurdles to the project’s completion
By Justin George and Lori Aratani
Updated June 23, 2022 at 9:59 a.m. EDT | Published June 23, 2022 at 9:43 a.m. EDT


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Metro announced Thursday it is taking control of the Silver Line extension, moving the long-delayed project a step closer to passenger service after years of delays. Transit officials said riders could begin boarding trains this fall.

The handover between the transit agency and the Metropolitan Washington Airports Authority, which is overseeing construction of the 11.4-mile rail extension to Dulles International Airport and Loudoun County, is one of the final hurdles to the project’s completion.

Metro officials did not provide an opening date Thursday during a regular board meeting.
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MWAA declared the project substantially completed in December. Since then, Metro and airports authority officials have gone over items that are incomplete or were flagged out of concern. With Metro’s declaration of “operational readiness,” the transit agency will gain provisional control of the extension for testing.

Metro would not gain full ownership until the line is about to open.
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Metro takes control of Silver Line extension, starting testing phase
The handover between the transit agency and the Metropolitan Washington Airports Authority is one of the final hurdles to the project’s completion
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Updated June 23, 2022 at 9:59 a.m. EDT | Published June 23, 2022 at 9:43 a.m. EDT
I hope that the Smithsonian can start a shuttle bus service from the Silver Line station at Dulles to the Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center.
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