Post Your City Transit Map and Data

[sopas ej]

A few years ago, I was very surprised to learn that Tokyo's subway system is privately run---and it runs at a profit. At least it did as of a few years ago.

[Gantz]

Originally Posted by sopas ej

A few years ago, I was very surprised to learn that Tokyo's subway system is privately run---and it runs at a profit. At least it did as of a few years ago.

Yes, another very good private system is Hong Kong's MTR.
Majority of New York City subway was also built out by private companies until the government forced them not to raise fare rates, then nationalized them, and raised rates.

[iheartthed]

Originally Posted by Gantz

Yes, another very good private system is Hong Kong's MTR.
Majority of New York City subway was also built out by private companies until the government forced them not to raise fare rates, then nationalized them, and raised rates.

This is likely true of every rail system in the U.S. built before the 1960s.

[Double L]

Here is the light rail map for Houston's METRORail, which connects Downtown, Midtown, The Museum District, The Texas Medical Center, Moody Park and the Northline Transit Center.


https://www.ridemetro.org/Pages/Rail...010.468583.pdf

However, if you want the entire system, METRO has an interactive map online in which you can learn details about bus routes, rail lines, park and rides and transit centers.

https://www.ridemetro.org/Pages/SystemMap.aspx



Number of stations: 25

Number of lines: 3

Length:22.3 Miles

Daily Ridership: 35,675

https://ftp.dot.state.tx.us/pub/txdo...stats/2020.pdf

[Yuri]

Originally Posted by muppet

Yep the Overground is just one section of the heavy rail that operates inside London -I'm not sure why they give it a seperate name, but they're similar to tube trains in size and frequencies (the East London line got 'converted' to become part of the Overground), that also runs under and over ground, like a halfway house. There are 337 heavy rail stations within the London boundary (and about 35 which are part of London but jurisdictionally fall outside), the majority unaccounted for on maps due to how migraine-inducing it would all get. I hazard in the London boundary there are about 650 seperate tube and rail stations (inc DLR).

I would imagine though SP still carries way more on public transport overall due to much higher density and generally being the bigger city.

Yes, if we count all tracks on London metro area, it will probably goes way above 1,000 km and passenger count would probably be above 6 million.

About São Paulo, yes. It's a 22 million people metro area for 15 million of London. And that shows São Paulo still a long way to go, to shift away from its autocentric mentality.

Another difference on the ground is the trains in São Paulo are wider than in London and headways shorter. Still, it's definitely more crowded. We need to add more lines and stations to balance things.

And in common, both cities have superb bus systems. They're usually negleted by the transit enthusiasts, but when the system is good they're incredibly helpful.

[Yuri]

Originally Posted by muppet

Tokyo - fck off just fck off

[Yuri]

Originally Posted by Double L

Number of stations: 25

Number of lines: 3

Length:22.3 Miles

Daily Ridership: 35,675

https://ftp.dot.state.tx.us/pub/txdo...stats/2020.pdf

35,000 people for a 7 million people metro area. Complicated, but at least it's a beginning.

It reminds me of this very interesting video by CityNerd where he shows the 10 Worst Transit Cities:

• Video Link

The problems are about the same: 20 min. (or more) headways, stations locked between freeways and cul-de-sacs, the usual.

[Double L]

Originally Posted by Yuri

35,000 people for a 7 million people metro area. Complicated, but at least it's a beginning.

It reminds me of this very interesting video by CityNerd where he shows the 10 Worst Transit Cities:

• Video Link

The problems are about the same: 20 min. (or more) headways, stations locked between freeways and cul-de-sacs, the usual.

Houston is relying mostly on buses rather than light rail and those statistics are strictly for light rail.

[Yuri]

Originally Posted by Double L

Houston is relying mostly on buses rather than light rail and those statistics are strictly for light rail.

I googled it: apparently Houston counts with 1,233 buses, handling 200,000 passengers daily.

[muppet]

London's frankly terrifying bus and tube map.

Good luck using it.

[Cory]

Originally Posted by Yuri

35,000 people for a 7 million people metro area. Complicated, but at least it's a beginning.

For context, pre-pandemic, it was the fourth busiest light rail in the country when accounting for weekday boardings per mile. Only SF, Boston, and Seattle had more.

[Yuri]

Originally Posted by muppet

London's frankly terrifying bus and tube map.

Good luck using it.

I love those on scale maps! In São Paulo stations, there are big ones including both subway and railway, the whole system, even the farthest railway stations.

Originally Posted by Cory

For context, pre-pandemic, it was the fourth busiest light rail in the country when accounting for weekday boardings per mile. Only SF, Boston, and Seattle had more.

Do they have plans on expanding it? This, with smaller headways, could draw much more people into the system.

[Double L]

Originally Posted by Yuri

Do they have plans on expanding it? This, with smaller headways, could draw much more people into the system.

In November 2019, voters approved the METRONext Moving Forward Plan that included 500 miles of travel improvements with no new tax increase. They approved 75 miles of METRO RapidBus, which essentially BRT. They are also building two-way HOV Lanes, Park and Rides, Transit centers, light rail, community connector service, bus stops, accessibility, safety and security.

Here is the plan.

https://www.ridemetro.org/MetroPDFs/...an-Summary.pdf

[muppet]

Originally Posted by Yuri

I love those on scale maps! In São Paulo stations, there are big ones including both subway and railway, the whole system, even the farthest railway stations.

pics

[Yuri]

Originally Posted by muppet

pics

I found this one:



But it's incomplete, missing pieces on east, north, west. And it brings lines under construction and planned.

[ssiguy]

Originally Posted by Yuri

And I searched for Toronto on Wikipedia. I hope it's accurate:

Toronto Subway
Lines: 4
Stations: 75
Lenght: 76.9 km
Daily Traffic: 595,000

I think your stats are COVID ones.
Toronto subway pre-pandemic was about 1.2 million riders a day.
GO commuter/RER was about 215,000

[Cory]

Originally Posted by ssiguy

I think your stats are COVID ones.
Toronto subway pre-pandemic was about 1.2 million riders a day.
GO commuter/RER was about 215,000

That’s impressive. That’s up there with NYC and CDMX per mile.

[muppet]

Originally Posted by Yuri

I found this one:



But it's incomplete, missing pieces on east, north, west. And it brings lines under construction and planned.

Nice, imagine the complexity if they interlaid the bus map with the metro lol

[TempleGuy1000]

The regular SEPTA map:


They have a few different maps, but I actually really like the Vicinity map that is more geographically realistic, has the bus lanes, and lists the frequency. I have never seen it anywhere other than on the internet though.

[Mister F]

Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere

Toronto's transit map today:

This thread shows how stupid it is that the TTC still mostly operates in a silo. Every city in this thread has its metro and regional train networks on a single map. Except Toronto. No GO trains on the Toronto subway map, but it has streetcars for some reason.

At least Metrolinx has proper system maps at their stations (this particular one being a preliminary map for when Eglinton opens). Too bad it's so hard to find online.


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