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Old Posted Jan 5, 2022, 3:52 PM
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... it's replacing some nondescript brick building with an exclusive hotel, lots of retail adding to Michigan ave, and apartments.
CitizenM is exclusive, really? I thought it was a bargain eurotrash chain.


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Old Posted Jan 5, 2022, 4:20 PM
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CitizenM is exclusive, really? I thought it was a bargain eurotrash chain.


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I was in the CitizenM in NYC in Bowery, both the lobby and sky lounge. Honestly it was super nice and I had friends staying there that loved it. Yeah I wouldn't characterize it as 'exclusive' for sure, ie it's not the Langham but it's definitely a great addition to Chicago's hotel lineup IMO. I like that Chicago is getting some Euro flair even if it is botique. Makes for good Instagramming.

From https://www.citizenm.com/hotels/unit...k-bowery-hotel



Saw article that said 280 rooms which is a pretty good size (probably because rooms are tiny). Honestly I think it will reflect well on the city and make Michigan Ave a little more modern/hip.
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Old Posted Jan 5, 2022, 4:26 PM
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I was in the CitizenM in NYC in Bowery, both the lobby and sky lounge. Honestly it was super nice and I had friends staying there that loved it. Yeah I wouldn't characterize it as 'exclusive' for sure, ie it's not the Langham but it's definitely a great addition to Chicago's hotel lineup IMO. I like that Chicago is getting some Euro flair even if it is botique. Makes for good Instagramming.
Well that's a relief.
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Are glass boxes supposed to be anything but flat and boring?
Yes agree. The problems with this building imho ARE the V columns and off base. A well executed glass box with the curtain wall extending straight down flush to the sidewalk might have been pulled off here - but this is a hopelessly compromized design. I thought it had a chance but it just looks like another pedistal on a podium.
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Old Posted Jan 6, 2022, 7:10 PM
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This building is terrible. I wish it had not been built.
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Old Posted Jan 6, 2022, 7:33 PM
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It has some horizontal white lines on 3 sides at least .
Only on the lower hotel levels. It's like they gave up on the upper portion and asked the accountants to design it.
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Not to mention the one embellishment they chose to include doesn't even line up with the edge of the building (or the other set?). Design obviously wasn't a priority for the developers, and it shows.
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Only on the lower hotel levels. It's like they gave up on the upper portion and asked the accountants to design it.
Ha, yeah. I think on the east side you are right. On the other 3 sides though I believe they go all the way up.
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Old Posted Jan 6, 2022, 8:22 PM
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I'm not a fan of the final design either, but it could have been worse.

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Old Posted Jan 6, 2022, 10:01 PM
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Maybe my opinion will improve slightly when the skip comes down and the vertical "slice" near the northeast corner materializes. I doubt it though.
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They definitely could've repurposed the original building (or at least a facadectomy) and build a tall, modern hotel above. Maybe in a bronze finish akin to 9 Dekalb to complement the C&C building next door.
Even if they didn't save the old commercial building, a facade similar to 9 Dekalb would have been incredible at this site. 9 Dekalb is my favorite UC building in the world.

I wish SHoP's designers would come to Chicago and save us from ourselves.
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What do they do with those old water towers on top of buildings after their dismantled? Wish we had a museum of Chicago ones.
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Lol this is going to be a CitizenM. I went to Boston late November and booked there for a week and a half and paid from here in Chicago thinking I would work from a desk in the hotel room. The room was tiny tiny and the desk was 1.5 feet in width and 1 foot in depth. I checked out the next morning. But alas this was all my fault for not looking into the hotel. The hotel gears towards a demographic I wasn't looking for. But I must say the customer service was excellent. The customer service was polite and attentive and fast. They refunded my money even though I booked and paid through a third party app. Everything was really clean and was geared for something I wasn't looking for. But if I was looking for what the hotel offers this would have been excellent. I think having CitizenM in Chicago will be a good thing. To bad about the old brick building going away though.
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this is the worst kind of filler... it takes away from the built environment with its blasé curtain wall, mediocre height, and thoughtless positioning (blocking a historic view of the C&C building)
Spot on, the tower itself is fine, but for that sight there should have been better consideration with it's surroundings. Even just a modest setback or two could have done wonders with the design of this building, plus that could have been a trade off to give it more height while also protecting the view of the C&C building.
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Lol this is going to be a CitizenM. I went to Boston late November and booked there for a week and a half and paid from here in Chicago thinking I would work from a desk in the hotel room. The room was tiny tiny and the desk was 1.5 feet in width and 1 foot in depth. I checked out the next morning. But alas this was all my fault for not looking into the hotel. The hotel gears towards a demographic I wasn't looking for. But I must say the customer service was excellent. The customer service was polite and attentive and fast. They refunded my money even though I booked and paid through a third party app. Everything was really clean and was geared for something I wasn't looking for. But if I was looking for what the hotel offers this would have been excellent. I think having CitizenM in Chicago will be a good thing. To bad about the old brick building going away though.
Yeah as mentioned above I visited some friends staying in one in New York. It's basically ultra small rooms at affordable price but with very nice finishes/customer service/amenities that a more expensive hotel would have. If you're not aware of this when booking I'm sure it would be a bit of a shock. But for locals this should be a nice place to enjoy the bar/patio/roof or whatever they have.

Agreed it's a win to have this option and adds tot the diversity of hotel options available in the city. Kind of like the relatively new Moxy in River North which a lot of people seem to love staying in.
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Not to mention the one embellishment they chose to include doesn't even line up with the edge of the building (or the other set?). Design obviously wasn't a priority for the developers, and it shows.
embarrassing. my 80 year old back porch has a tighter tolerance than that
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Well, its a 500 footer. Add it to the big board, and lets move on.

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Yes agree. The problems with this building imho ARE the V columns and off base. A well executed glass box with the curtain wall extending straight down flush to the sidewalk might have been pulled off here - but this is a hopelessly compromized design. I thought it had a chance but it just looks like another pedistal on a podium.
A pedestal and a podium are basically the same thing.
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Good infill. Don't understand the hate. Nice blend of classical and new architecture, and it looks good from the brown line flyover and coming north up michigan ave. Not everything needs to be a supertall, now the salesforce tower should've been that.
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Good infill. Don't understand the hate. Nice blend of classical and new architecture, and it looks good from the brown line flyover and coming north up michigan ave. Not everything needs to be a supertall, now the salesforce tower should've been that.
There is absolutely no way this is visible from the flyover
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