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Old Posted Mar 28, 2019, 7:03 PM
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Ass-bury Plaza basically looks better when you simply can't see it.

But since it's likely not going anywhere, our best hope is that its garage fronting Chicago Ave eventually gets redeveloped into something less pathetic
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Old Posted Mar 29, 2019, 5:18 PM
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Ass-bury Plaza basically looks better when you simply can't see it.

But since it's likely not going anywhere, our best hope is that its garage fronting Chicago Ave eventually gets redeveloped into something less pathetic
I was just looking at some of the Asbury floor plans. Those have to be some of the most depressing apartment interiors in the city. Deep units and 1-2 windows per unit placed on an angle. This folks is why window wall apartment buildings aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

As far as the 3 buildings being lost, it's always a shame, but more so that at least 2 out of 3 haven't been better cared for. There's barely anything worth salvaging on those exteriors unfortunately.
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Old Posted Mar 29, 2019, 6:43 PM
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Drove north down Lasalle this AM, and the police were coordinating the line of of dozens and dozens of dirt-hauling trucks lined up in the right lane from Kinze to Superior...
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Old Posted Mar 30, 2019, 4:13 PM
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Not an update but from this view OCS will have an awesome impact

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Old Posted Mar 30, 2019, 6:05 PM
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Are we building anything in those vacant lots?
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Old Posted Mar 30, 2019, 10:25 PM
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Are we building anything in those vacant lots?
Nothing immediately so far as I know. It's taken a while to get all of the development slated for the former Cabini Green towers and associated low-rises to get going, but it eventually will be filled in. That much I'm sure of.

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Old Posted Mar 31, 2019, 4:08 PM
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Old Posted Mar 31, 2019, 4:58 PM
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Fun fact while on the topic of cladding. I recently found out that the architects almost chose white Italian marble for Sears Tower until Alcoa lowered their aluminum prices. Imagine Sears clad like Water Tower Place. Wild to think about...
There's some controversy about whether it was a real threat. Everyone wanted aluminum from the start, but they also knew they were being overcharged. It was the architect's understanding that their trip to Italy was a negotiating ploy, but I guess only Sears knows whether they really have accepted marble.
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Old Posted Mar 31, 2019, 5:31 PM
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Super cool extra info, thanks!

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I guess only Sears knows whether they really have accepted marble.
Lets call them up and ask! Oh.....
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For practical reasons, granite would most likely be a much better idea than any marble, cause it's more resistant.

We can tell here, cause the Grande Arche in la Défense was originally cladded in white marble.
It looked like nothing special from a distance (just looked all white), and panels eventually went damaged by time and weather and ended up falling down 30 years after completion.
It was unsafe to walk around, so they had to reclad the whole thing in granite just recently.

Marble is surely fine in interiors, but it's too touchy for cladding a highrise.
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Old Posted Mar 31, 2019, 7:50 PM
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^The builders of the Standard Oil Building (Aon Center) here in a Chicago arrived at this same conclusion!
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^The builders of the Standard Oil Building (Aon Center) here in a Chicago arrived at this same conclusion!
Exactly my thought when I saw people discussing this. Marble just doesn't work that well for supertalls
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Marble isn't perfect inside either. Aside from it's easy stainability, especially Carrera and other whites, and this is going to sound like I'm making this up, but I've actually seen with my own eyes a piece of old marble countertop slab that was actually bowed like a piece of plywood. It was bizarre. No way granite could ever do that.
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Old Posted Mar 31, 2019, 9:39 PM
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^The builders of the Standard Oil Building (Aon Center) here in a Chicago arrived at this same conclusion!
hahahah, yup! anybody who doesn't know the history of that building needs to google it. hilarious stuff.
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When looking at those pics I realized it was one of the rare times I didn't feel sentimental about the demolition of old buildings.
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Marble isn't perfect inside either. Aside from it's easy stainability, especially Carrera and other whites, and this is going to sound like I'm making this up, but I've actually seen with my own eyes a piece of old marble countertop slab that was actually bowed like a piece of plywood. It was bizarre. No way granite could ever do that.
I have relatives that have worked at marble quarries for decades in Italy and I just can't believe marble would warp under any normal circumstances. I'd more believe that was a faux marble product, or someone did something unusual to that marble. If anything, marble is brittle and would crack before it bows to any extreme amount.

It would be interesting to know exactly what marble product that was and what cause it to warp.
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I have relatives that have worked at marble quarries for decades in Italy and I just can't believe marble would warp under any normal circumstances. I'd more believe that was a faux marble product, or someone did something unusual to that marble. If anything, marble is brittle and would crack before it bows to any extreme amount.

It would be interesting to know exactly what marble product that was and what cause it to warp.
Speaking as a geologist/mineralogist, I agree with this sentiment, HomrQT. Marble doesn't warp, at least not easily. Probably some sort of faux product, honestly.

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I have relatives that have worked at marble quarries for decades in Italy and I just can't believe marble would warp under any normal circumstances. I'd more believe that was a faux marble product, or someone did something unusual to that marble. If anything, marble is brittle and would crack before it bows to any extreme amount.

It would be interesting to know exactly what marble product that was and what cause it to warp.
I would to. It was several years ago and I believe it was leaning against a basement wall. I'm pretty knowledgeable in this area and I can assure you it was not a cultured marble or anything man-made. It was definitely bowed, or I guess I should have said cupped, probably about 3/8" or so in the middle of a 25" depth. It was really strange, I just kept looking at it like you'd stare at a blue turd, whether a dog's or yours. I haven't a clue what could have caused it. Can porous marble strength and flexibility, or lack thereof, be affected by high humidity like wood? I never thought so until I saw that one piece of marble...

Anyways, this has got to qualify as the most off-topic tangent in any thread I've ever participated in.
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