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Great pics, Solar!

Slow and steady, looks like its going up about a floor a week. At this rate, it'll probably be topping out around early to mid June 2018.
     
     
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It's starting to fill in the Ryan canyon nicely, but why aren't developers interested in the land on the east side of the expressway? They could start up a whole new shopping district that would be closer to the loop, trains and restraunts. Kind of like a replica greek town on Halsted but closer to peoples work buildings. Office depot and parking around presidential towers would be a good start.
     
     
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It's starting to fill in the Ryan canyon nicely, but why aren't developers interested in the land on the east side of the expressway? They could start up a whole new shopping district that would be closer to the loop, trains and restraunts. Kind of like a replica greek town on Halsted but closer to peoples work buildings. Office depot and parking around presidential towers would be a good start.
The last thing we need is another "shopping district" especially in that area. First any out of town shoppers are heading to Mich Ave and State St. And west/south loopers have big box hell Roosevelt. Anything that diverts shoppers off of Mich Ave and State Street is not a benefit.
Second As discussed in the GD thread, the retail may be played out in the age of online.
Third what are the chances that large retail is integrated into highrises sans surface lots or larger podiums.
Fourth, rather than traditional concentrated shopping in one area it may be better to sprinkle the retail around several large area blocks in a more organic mode.
     
     
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The last thing we need is another "shopping district" especially in that area. First any out of town shoppers are heading to Mich Ave and State St. And west/south loopers have big box hell Roosevelt. Anything that diverts shoppers off of Mich Ave and State Street is not a benefit.
Second As discussed in the GD thread, the retail may be played out in the age of online.
Third what are the chances that large retail is integrated into highrises sans surface lots or larger podiums.
Fourth, rather than traditional concentrated shopping in one area it may be better to sprinkle the retail around several large area blocks in a more organic mode.
It's still a valid question of why half of that land is surface lots, but I think it's probably ripe for office development next cycle once the river projects finish up. Also, Union Station is in the pipeline.
     
     
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^ that is maybe a tad hyperbolic. In terms of just surface lots it is more like 10-20%

There are those three large lots right along the expressway which would be great to see developed. Other than that we have seen proposals for two other decent sized lots. All that remains is a few smaller partial block sites.
     
     
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It's still a valid question of why half of that land is surface lots, but I think it's probably ripe for office development next cycle once the river projects finish up. Also, Union Station is in the pipeline.
This. I would much rather that land be preserved for future office development anyway, since it has excellent connectivity with the 2 big suburban train stations nearby.

Developers are mostly building west of the Kennedy because the West Loop/Fulton Market area is much more desirable to residents than the more office oriented area between the expressway and the river.
     
     
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The last thing we need is another "shopping district" especially in that area. First any out of town shoppers are heading to Mich Ave and State St. And west/south loopers have big box hell Roosevelt. Anything that diverts shoppers off of Mich Ave and State Street is not a benefit.
Second As discussed in the GD thread, the retail may be played out in the age of online.
Third what are the chances that large retail is integrated into highrises sans surface lots or larger podiums.
Fourth, rather than traditional concentrated shopping in one area it may be better to sprinkle the retail around several large area blocks in a more organic mode.
Chicago is massive enough to warrant multiple shopping districts, and it can be for locals too, not just out-of-towners, especially near Union Station and Ogilvie. It need not be along the same scale as N. Michigan Avenue.

Regardless, I really seeing this building rise...after waiting so long!
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^ Agree, plus I don't agree with the notion that online shopping spells the death of shopping districts.

A nicely designed shopping district is an experience that one cannot replicate whilst sitting in their pajamas passing gas on their couch browsing a laptop.
     
     
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^ Yeah, we've got secondary shopping districts on North/Clybourn, Milwaukee/Damen, Halsted/Armitage, and Southport already (basically anywhere there is, or could conceivably be, a Banana Republic lol). Also Roosevelt Collection.

West Loop is evolving shopping as well. Billy Reid opened up a few years ago, Free People a few months ago and Anthropologie just this month.

And before anyone trots out the factoid about how America is over-retailed... that's largely a suburban problem. I've seen no evidence that Chicago or other core-city markets have too much retail space, especially on the big-box end. If anything, city neighborhoods are under-served by chains. Inner-ring neighborhoods swamp the stores along Elston, Clybourn, and Roosevelt on weekends, but outer neighborhoods go to Oak Lawn, North Riverside or Lincolnwood because those options mostly don't exist in the city. We haven't really seen a ton of store closures in the city either, at least not closures due to over-expansion and weak demand.
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And before anyone trots out the factoid about how America is over-retailed... that's largely a suburban problem. I've seen no evidence that Chicago or other core-city markets have too much retail space, especially on the big-box end. If anything, city neighborhoods are under-served by chains. Inner-ring neighborhoods swamp the stores along Elston, Clybourn, and Roosevelt on weekends, but outer neighborhoods go to Oak Lawn, North Riverside or Lincolnwood because those options mostly don't exist in the city. We haven't really seen a ton of store closures in the city either, at least not closures due to over-expansion and weak demand.
I agree that most recent closures have been due to chains having trouble overall, not specifically with Chicago necessarily.

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A nicely designed shopping district is an experience that one cannot replicate whilst sitting in their pajamas passing gas on their couch browsing a laptop.
I completely agree, especially for things like clothes. Even with generous mail-order return policies, I much prefer shopping for anything like clothes or food in person. The idea of waiting for clothes to be delivered and then trying it on and then mailing it back if I don't like the fit or the way it looks on me just seems really tedious and inconvenient compared to going and trying it on or inspecting it in person and knowing right away if it fits and/or I like it.

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The last thing we need is another "shopping district" especially in that area. First any out of town shoppers are heading to Mich Ave and State St. And west/south loopers have big box hell Roosevelt. Anything that diverts shoppers off of Mich Ave and State Street is not a benefit. ...
I strongly disagree. A huge part of the advantage of living in a dense city is convenience and the ability to get things without a car in a reasonable amount of time. To make that work, every dense neighborhood should have its own retail district or even multiple districts if it's a geographically large neighborhood like Lakeview, which does have multiple retail corridors.. It's nice to have access to Michigan Avenue and State Street, but it's hardly convenient to only use them, even for basic things, especially if you don't commute to the Loop. I love s ten minute walk from North Michigan Avenue, and yet I still like having a few things on Wells Street and in River North instead of having to always go to N.Mich. in fact, with all the new residences and retail space from the recent projects on and near Wells Street I hope that we get more than just convenience stores, pharmacies, banks, and restaurants in the new retail space. It would not only benefit the residents, but the workers in nearby offices.

For example a Banana Republic or Gap or Zara our American Apparel on Wells would be welcome for the convenience of being able to pop in and get basics when needed instead of wading through the tourists on Michigan. One of the nice things about the Belmont and Broadway area is the Gap on Broadway and other shops where you can find either basics or more boutique items. I'd love to see Wells south of Chicago Are develop a retail scene like the ones near Damen/North or Belmont/Broadway or Lincoln Square or Clark/Diversey or Logan Square. It's great that River North has easy access to Michigan Avenue, but it would still be even better if it had, in addition to that, a smaller-scaled neighborhood shopping corridor with a basic clothing store and maybe a shoe store and bookstore and some specially shops.

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It's starting to fill in the Ryan canyon nicely, but why aren't developers interested in the land on the east side of the expressway? They could start up a whole new shopping district that would be closer to the loop, trains and restraunts. Kind of like a replica greek town on Halsted but closer to peoples work buildings. Office depot and parking around presidential towers would be a good start.
It's the Kennedy West of the Loop - the Ryan is south of the Circle Interchange.

If the City would find a way to construct the Clinton Subway or especially the once proposed West Loop Transportation thing, that would happen organically on Clinton. Even without that, both Clinton and Canal are seeing more retail than was there even just as decade ago.
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