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Old Posted Jul 13, 2022, 2:51 PM
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Calgary offers Gaudreau over $10Million and he's still leaving lol !!

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No surprise here. It was clear from the start Gaudreau would sign somewhere in the US.
This goes along with what i've said in the past wrt the NHL playerbase becoming more American and forcing Canadian teams to get creative on how they will stay competitive. More and more players have the option to sign with their hometown teams - Gaudreau likely lands in New Jersey, where he's from, if the rumours are true.

Things will only become more difficult for Canada's mid-and-smaller sized markets from here on out as the Canadian playerbase declines as the American base increases.

For Calgary this is the latest in a string of franchise players who have left the team without the team getting any sort of asset in return for them.
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For Calgary this is the latest in a string of franchise players who have left the team without the team getting any sort of asset in return for them.
Gio leaving wasn't a negative. That cap space allowed for Zadorov and Gudbranson to be signed.

Brodie wasn't a franchise player.

Two people doesn't make a string.
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Old Posted Jul 13, 2022, 3:02 PM
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Gio leaving wasn't a negative. That cap space allowed for Zadorov and Gudbranson to be signed.

Brodie wasn't a franchise player.

Two people doesn't make a string.
Iginla left for what turned out to be nothing (Agostino, Hanowski, Klimchuk).
Kiprusoff retired, nothing back.
Giordano was an expansion pick, nothing in return.
Gaudreau walked for nothing.

Just poor asset management.
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Old Posted Jul 13, 2022, 3:09 PM
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Lol. That's not quite how it works, but you do you.
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Old Posted Jul 13, 2022, 4:06 PM
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Giroux and the Sens 3 yr deal.
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'The Edmonton Oilers have agreed to terms with goaltender Jack Campbell to a five-year, $25 million contract, according to TSN Hockey Insider Darren Dreger.'

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Looks like Toronto and Edmonton will still be weak in net this next season.
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Old Posted Jul 13, 2022, 4:13 PM
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Iginla left for what turned out to be nothing (Agostino, Hanowski, Klimchuk).
Kiprusoff retired, nothing back.
Giordano was an expansion pick, nothing in return.
Gaudreau walked for nothing.

Just poor asset management.
Sounds like Calgary is the new Winnipeg where no one wants to play.
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If Campbell doesn't bounce back or his injury woes continue then that's the type of contract that can close a window real fast.
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If Campbell doesn't bounce back or his injury woes continue then that's the type of contract that can close a window real fast.
They've only got two or maybe three years left to do something anyway. Seems fairly reasonable to me, but it is definitely a hope for the best. At least the equivalent of Smith while being many years younger seems a better option.

Fourth year would be blowup year anyway.
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Well holy shit!

Well all that's the last time you guys will make the playoffs. Signing that idiot was a mistake. There is a reason all the other teams are happy to get rid of him. Sure he was good for the 4 months you had him. But now it's different. And your golden child isn't going to get along with Kane's behavior, as Kane needs to be the center of attention on a team. And he thinks he's the best ever. Enjoy the locker room being torn up. I predict in a year or 2 you'll be trying to trade him. And no one will take him lol. Unreal though , 4 years for the NHLs most unwanted.
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Sad to see Mikyehev go but that's a rich contract as well.

Looks like Philly is out on Gaudreau which means we'll most certainly be seeing him in New Jersey.
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Iginla left for what turned out to be nothing (Agostino, Hanowski, Klimchuk).
Kiprusoff retired, nothing back.
Giordano was an expansion pick, nothing in return.
Gaudreau walked for nothing.

Just poor asset management.
Flames got next to nothing because Iginla did next to nothing upon his departure. That was the market price for Iginla.

Kiprusoff retired. Can’t get anything back for someone retiring. You don’t think a team would trade assets knowing the player in return was going to retire.

Goo had a big cap hit. Flames left him unprotected, knowing he could be selected, Also knowing they needed to free cap space to bring in other talent, which they did.

Gaudreau had the best season of his career in the last year of his contract, which lead to the Flames being what some considered a cup contender. Should the Flames have traded him mid season, just to say they got something back?

I’d consider that pretty good asset management, really.
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Iginla left for what turned out to be nothing (Agostino, Hanowski, Klimchuk).
Kiprusoff retired, nothing back.
Giordano was an expansion pick, nothing in return.
Gaudreau walked for nothing.

Just poor asset management.
I guess the Leafs better trade away Matthews before the deadline next spring. That would be good asset management considering his final year will have a NMC, and he sure as shit isn't staying there beyond 2023-24. Right?
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I do think the Flames better have a legitimate plan B in place, unless Johnny totally f’d with them saying he would sign back with the Flames. If they weren’t prepared to lose Johnny, the. I would definitely consider that poor asset management.
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Patrice Bergeron tells TVA Sports (Renaud Lavoie) that he hasn't made up his mind yet about staying in Boston - or not.
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I guess the Leafs better trade away Matthews before the deadline next spring. That would be good asset management considering his final year will have a NMC, and he sure as shit isn't staying there beyond 2023-24. Right?
That's what the Canucks are trying to do with Miller right now.
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Well all that's the last time you guys will make the playoffs. Signing that idiot was a mistake. There is a reason all the other teams are happy to get rid of him. Sure he was good for the 4 months you had him. But now it's different. And your golden child isn't going to get along with Kane's behavior, as Kane needs to be the center of attention on a team. And he thinks he's the best ever. Enjoy the locker room being torn up. I predict in a year or 2 you'll be trying to trade him. And no one will take him lol. Unreal though , 4 years for the NHLs most unwanted.
I was initially against this guy coming to Edmonton, but have to say that he seems far more humble and perhaps finally recognizes that this is his last chance. He seems pretty genuine in his words, but I like Koolaid, so who the F knows.

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With Kiprusoff, there was talk of trading him a few years before he retired and they could have gotten something from him at that point instead of just riding him out to retirement and getting nothing.

That same statement could go for many players on many teams. Sedins in Vancouver.

We love players we like consistency in the team, but if we want our team to move on and continue to be good, we need to realize that a few years earlier is probably better unless your team is winning playoff rounds. The Flames didn't make the playoffs the last few years of Kiprusoff's career. A second and/or third round draft pick is better than nothing on a go nowhere team at that point.

Gaudreau this year is going to suck because he's got a few pretty good seasons left in him. Nothing is hard to swallow for him.

Don't like the Kane contract at all. Didn't like him getting signed. He did great for him, but another season and that is maybe a 50/50 chance of it going badly. Same for each year after.

I don't know if giving him a shorter or longer leash is any better. It's a gamble for sure.
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