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Ugh no. Please let this project die already.
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How do they even still have control of that building? Do Embassies not get taxed the same?
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Ugh no. Please let this project die already.
+1, or at least change the design.
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How do they even still have control of that building? Do Embassies not get taxed the same?


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Oh interesting. So will it go to an auction or what?
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Oh interesting. So will it go to an auction or what?
It’s in limbo. But Macklowe can always reconfigure a tower without that piece.
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It’s in limbo. But Macklowe can always reconfigure a tower without that piece.
One good thing about Tower Fifth is that it will have an observation deck close to the top if it is built.
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Looks like the project might be cancelled.
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Looks like the project might be cancelled.
Never thought I'd be so happy to hear about a 1,500+ footer being cancelled.
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This doesn't necessarily mean the project is canceled
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Yes unless I don't understand the site that he has already assembled, something can still be built, just not as high? He just wanted that additional site for more air rights?
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Macklowe reportedly sought to buy a seven story-office building at 14 East 52nd Street on and off for about five years so he could build TowerFifth. Instead, the seller, Inmoprisa, sold the property to Ramirez Asset Management for $19.5 million, records show.

Inmoprisa initially planned to sell the building to an affiliate of Macklowe Properties for $45 million with a closing scheduled for May 2019. To seal the deal, Inmoprisa said, it terminated its lease with the building’s tenant.

Macklowe extended the closing to August 2019 and then to January 2020. Inmoprisa agreed to yet another extension, to July 31, 2020, and increased the deposit to $9 million. Macklowe did not come up with the money and Inmoprisa sent a notice to terminate the contract and kept the deposit.
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Macklowe attempted to buy the building again. His company Raciv Corp sought to acquire the property for $22.5 million this year and put down a $3 million deposit.

In April, Raciv Corp assigned and transferred the rights to the contract to an entity controlled by investor Tim Ziss. Inmoprisa imposed a deadline of April 10 and needed the deal to close because of an impending tax liability. To keep the deal alive, an entity tied to Ziss filed for bankruptcy protection postponing the sale.

Ziss’s lawyer, however, said it was unable to close on the deal and sought to dismiss the bankruptcy filing in August.

Ramirez, a New York-based fixed income and equity management firm, bought the property at a substantial discount to what it last traded for in 2017 when Inmoprisa paid $36 million.

No, this in itself doesn’t mean the proposal is dead, just that pieces are in play. But even if Macklowe were already in full control of that piece, there’s still the matter of the embassy on 51st Street.



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Just redesign it to a design that doesn't require knocking down the embassy?
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^ They could, but I’m not sure if that would change one of the unlimited zoning ordinances New York City seems to have. I don’t think we’ve heard the end of it. Not much can be done with either of those sites. But as part of an assemblage, they become more powerful.
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^ They could, but I’m not sure if that would change one of the unlimited zoning ordinances New York City seems to have. I don’t think we’ve heard the end of it. Not much can be done with either of those sites. But as part of an assemblage, they become more powerful.
This tourist observatory that is planned for the top should be a privately owned public space so that the deck could be free or gave no more than a $10 ticket fee.
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This tourist observatory that is planned for the top should be a privately owned public space so that the deck could be free or gave no more than a $10 ticket fee.
The City wants it's POPS at the street level. Not everyone wants to go up a thousand feet into the sky, and many couldn't care less for the view.
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I'd imagine something could still be built even without the full assemblage originally desired. Might not be in the final form but maybe its a blessing in that something can actually rise that has better odds of reality versus Tower Fifth in its entirety. Or a redesign.
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The City wants it's POPS at the street level. Not everyone wants to go up a thousand feet into the sky, and many couldn't care less for the view.
There are at least three skyscrapers in London with observation decks that do not charge an admission fee. Two of them are 20 Fenchurch Street and 22 Bishopgate. Makes me wish New York City would negotiate to have the Tower Fifth observation deck become that way as a privately owned public space. The five skyscraper observation decks in New York City currently are fairly expensive experiences.
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. The five skyscraper observation decks in New York City currently are fairly expensive experiences.
Yes. That's the entire reason they're built. They make mad cash for little effort
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