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[mrnyc]

yeah its a pretty obvious and relatively easy choice to use the roosevelt to house migrants during the crisis. unlike the penn hotel, which is in the middle of coming down, its very lucky to have something like that available while they decide how to redevelop the site.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by mrnyc

yeah its a pretty obvious and relatively easy choice to use the roosevelt to house migrants during the crisis. unlike the penn hotel, which is in the middle of coming down, its very lucky to have something like that available while they decide how to redevelop the site.

Yeah, its just one of many. Quite a few in midtown, but people have to go somewhere, and those places aren't being used at the moment.

[NYguy]

Of course there would be noise...


https://nypost.com/2023/05/18/turnin...own-drop-dead/

Turning Roosevelt Hotel into migrant center tells Midtown: Drop dead





By Steve Cuozzo
May 18, 2023

City to Midtown: Drop dead.

This is the message sent by installing a migrants’ theme park in the Roosevelt Hotel, two blocks from Grand Central Terminal and steps from some of the city’s most important corporate headquarters.

The unfathomable stroke of stupidity to fill the vacant hotel with “asylum seekers” threatens to abort East Midtown’s still-fragile recovery from the pandemic. A pop-up barnyard would be less inappropriate for the neighborhood.

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May 19, 2023


Visible signs of new life as migrants move in for the interim. The lamps were on for the first time in a long time.

[mrnyc]

look at 'ol cranky cuozz tooling for his boss murdoch.

i bet irl he's a friendly liberal moderate outside of his rightwing entertainment rag job.



seriously, its more likely the highly sensitive ones wont even notice these folks are there.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by mrnyc

look at 'ol cranky cuozz tooling for his boss murdoch.

i bet irl he's a friendly liberal moderate outside of his rightwing entertainment rag job.



seriously, its more likely the highly sensitive ones wont even notice these folks are there.

We don’t need the politics here.

But it’s a large vacant building, with plans for redevelopment, but no plan in place yet. Which meant it could just sit there vacant for a few years. Meanwhile, it’s not the worst thing to get more people circulating in that stretch of midtown. We’re back, but not at 100% yet. The area is a construction zone though.

The city has always been a gateway to immigration. It needs to build a place where it can properly handle influxes like this, and not rely on gyms and hotels. Ellis Island is closed.

Another issue was PIA and the agreement with the hotel workers union. This resolves that issue in the short term, while a plan is finalized for what they will build at this site.

[mrnyc]

how will they get there —



NYC is shutting down volunteer-led Port Authority welcome center for migrants

By David Brand, Elizabeth Kim and Bahar Ostadan
Published May 19, 2023


New York City is shutting down a key migrant welcome center inside the Port Authority bus terminal, and rerouting new arrivals to a city-established intake operation at The Roosevelt Hotel.

But leaders of volunteer groups who have assisted thousands over the last nine months say they are being cut out of the process.

"They're going to have their way, which is basically creating a welcome center where we're not welcome,” said Power Malu, one of the leaders of Artists Athletes Activists, which has coordinated transportation, food and shelter for migrants at the bus depot and the city’s major airports.

The Port Authority welcome center emerged as a crucial hub for thousands of newly arriving immigrants who have made their way to the five boroughs after crossing the southern U.S. border — at times, after being bused to the city by Republican governors. Aid workers there stepped in to assist the migrants with food, medical care, guidance and legal assistance, funded by donations and filling gaps in the city’s fraying social safety net.


more:
https://gothamist.com/news/nyc-is-sh...r-for-migrants

[NYguy]

For the "history" lovers, this hotel still has one more story to tell. They once came by boat, now it's buses.


https://nypost.com/2023/05/22/nyc-mi...el-bussed-off/

Migrants at packed Roosevelt Hotel bussed to other NYC shelters as dozens more arrive in Midtown


By Kevin Sheehan, Bernadette Hogan, Desheania Andrews and Jesse O’Neill
May 22, 2023

New York City’s new migrant “welcome center” at the former four-star Roosevelt Hotel in Midtown Manhattan was already slammed Monday with fresh arrivals.

Dozens of migrants were hauled in on buses, including about 20 in a yellow school bus, to be processed. Some were forced to wait on their bus for about a half-hour, apparently till the lines inside died down — while the lucky ones arriving around lunchtime got to eat in the landmark’s crystal-chandelier ballroom, where Guy Lombardo and his band used to famously perform “Auld Lang Syne” on New Year’s Eve.

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/employ...reopening-news

Roosevelt Hotel Drops Covid Severance Suit After Reopening News


Jacklyn Wille
May 22, 2023

The owner of Manhattan’s Roosevelt Hotel dropped its lawsuit challenging a New York City law mandating $500 weekly severance payments for hotel workers laid off during the Covid-19 pandemic.

The hotel, which opened in Midtown Manhattan in 1924 and closed its doors in late 2020, challenged a law signed by former Mayor Bill de Blasio that required severance pay for workers at large hotels that laid off more than three-quarters of their workforce or closed entirely during the pandemic. Hotels that don’t reopen are required to pay weekly benefits of $500 per employee for up to 30 weeks.

[NYguy]

A little more life in the building, as it awaits it's fate....


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https://arynews.tv/summary-seeking-p...otel-deferred/

Summary seeking privatisation of Roosevelt Hotel deferred


By Web Desk
July 10, 2023

Federal Minister for Finance and Revenue Senator Ishaq Dar chaired the meeting of CCoP where the Privatisation Commission (PC) updated the CCoP on the status of the Privatisation process of Roosevelt Hotel.

The CCoP after discussion deferred the summary while directing the Privatisation Commission (PC) to submit an update on the Privatisation of the Roosevelt Hotel after consultation with the Aviation Ministry.

The PC also submitted a summary regarding the Privatisation of Services International Hotel (SIH) and updated the Committee on its Privatisation process.

[Sky88]

I wonder when this stupid Pakistani soap opera will end. It was better to see the hotel... the Pakistanis don't have the money to go on anyway. Useless bureaucracy and waste of time.

[Lincolnlover2005]

At least the Roosevelt has been given a couple extra months on life support

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by Lincolnlover2005

At least the Roosevelt has been given a couple extra months on life support

A coue if years, but the city needs to get a grip on it.

[fadedgrandeur]

I'm very happy to see the old place come back from the dead. Gives me more time to write a couple more letters to the LPC!

[HyperPower]

[QUOTE=Xing Lin;9841291]A fantasy concept I designed— a tower that rises from a cantilever, preserving the Roosevelt's historic facade and Terminal City massing:


Interesting design but highly doubtful with setback and street front/wall codes as previously mentioned. Maybe just save the lower base facade and/or lobby area ie Hearst Tower. Then again HT's facade was landmarked in 1988 by the City.







Most modern developers would just bulldoze the entire site without blinking an eye unless forced to integrate architecture into a future design. Until then its a refugee shelter.

[Busy Bee]

Originally Posted by HyperPower

Most modern developers would just bulldoze the entire site without blinking an eye unless forced to integrate architecture into a future design. Until then its a refugee shelter.

I'm a huge advocate for façade preservation and innovative historical re-use, but I'm not sure it's an entirely fair statement to paint all developers as some sort of heartless unimaginative capitalist villains. I think there is many a case where when all the investment variables are taken into consideration — including what such an innovative approach does to the timeline and therefore the bottom line — the economics just do not pencil out. And then often there's the engineering reality of a structure that's beyond saving or incapable of accommodating complete reconstruction along with a new building ala the Hearst Tower example — which was significantly aided by the fact that the original foundation was designed for a much taller building. This is sometimes the unfortunate reality — where the rubber hits the road as the saying goes. BTW, I am in no way saying that such an approach to the Roosevelt is impossible or unlikely, just saying that it sometimes is just not possible or practical and this is why full teardowns or often the pursued option.

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https://www.firstpost.com/explainers...-13478022.html

Why Pakistan wants to demolish NYC’s iconic Roosevelt Hotel





December 7, 2023

The Pakistan International Airlines, which owns the Roosevelt Hotel in New York, reportedly seeks to demolish the iconic structure to build a new hotel. This comes amid the financial woes of Pakistan’s flag carrier, which is likely to undergo privatisation

The iconic Roosevelt Hotel in New York is staring at a possible demolition. Owned by the Pakistan International Airlines (PIA), the hotel has been used as a welcome center and shelter for migrants by the New York City (NYC) administration since May.

As per a report in the Pakistani daily Dawn, the PIA wants to raze down the iconic structure in NYC to build a new hotel through a joint venture. This comes amid Pakistan’s economic woes and financial troubles afflicting the airlines.

Why PIA wants to demolish the hotel

A representative of Pakistan’s Aviation Division told the Senate Standing Committee on Aviation on Wednesday (6 December) about PIA’s intention to demolish the hotel, reported Dawn.

This comes after the airline leased the hotel to the New York City Administration in June for three years for $220 million. “A contract was signed for 1,250 rooms. The hotel will be returned to the government of Pakistan once the three-year term lease expires,” the then Minister of Railways and Aviation Khawaja Saad Rafique said at the time, as per Geo News.

This was a larger part of the Pakistan government’s plan to ease the economic crisis of the country.

While talks around the PIA selling the iconic hotel have surfaced since it took over its ownership in the 2000s, they never materialised. The hotel got a major blow during the COVID-19 pandemic when it was closed down in 2020.

It finally reopened earlier this year and has been a shelter for migrants since May. By September, the NYC administration was providing lodgings to hundreds of migrant families at the hotel.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1795744

PIA plans to raze Roosevelt Hotel, Senate panel told


December 7, 2023

Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) intends to demolish the iconic Roosevelt Hotel in New York City to pave the way for the construction of a new hotel through a joint venture, a representative of the Aviation Division informed the Senate Standing Committee on Aviation on Wednesday.

The PIA owns 37 buildings across the globe, of which 29 are located in Pakistan. After renovations that cost $6 million, the hotel was handed over to the New York City administration for three years, and it is currently being used as a centre to house migrants.

The committee was informed that the financial advisers who had already been working on PIA’s privatisation would also give their suggestions on Roosevelt Hotel, but the PIA properties have no link with the privatisation.

[Ahoi]

Why can't the old Roosevelt Hotel be landmarked now that the Penn Hotel has been demolished?

Or, you build the hotel similar to the canceled Travelstead Tower (schma 1 or 3) which will give it a historical touch.

Something historical with 100 floors on this page (simple drawing):

[Sky88]

I would prefer the new tower to be more like the never-built Signature Tower in Nashville. A 100-story tower would be perfect.


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[NYguy]

Now that they have officially announced the plan to demolish the hotel (surprising no one), we can speculate. It sounds like they will reopen the hotel in a mixed-use tower. But we are at least a few years away from anything happening on site. Besides the city's own emergency use as a shelter, PIA would have to partner with a developer, come up with a scheme for development, enter the city's pre-certification process (which itself could be a year or more) before a DEIS is issued, then a few months after that, enter the city's formal ULURP or approvals process. It's a lot, but must be done.


DECEMBER 16, 2023


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