AUSTIN | Projects & Construction III

[wwmiv]

Originally Posted by bilbao58

Office building! I take back everything I said!

This isn’t the only one, and it’s been in the works for awhile.

[bilbao58]

Originally Posted by wwmiv

This isn’t the only one, and it’s been in the works for awhile.

From what I can tell, it’s the first 700+ foot office tower that has been approved.

[wwmiv]

Originally Posted by bilbao58

From what I can tell, it’s the first 700+ foot office tower that has been approved.

We have multiple downtown office buildings of various sizes in the works. I don’t recall you specifying a 700’ threshold.

[bilbao58]

Originally Posted by wwmiv

I don’t recall you specifying a 700’ threshold.

Actually, I mentioned 700+ feet, though not explicitly as a threshold, in a post that you yourself quoted. But, it doesn’t matter, I already deleted my offending posts and I’m finished with this. I added a wink smilie to my post from earlier today to signify that I meant the post to be taken as humor. Basically admitting that I was being a jerk before.

[wwmiv]

Originally Posted by bilbao58

Actually, I mentioned 700+ feet, though not explicitly as a threshold, in a post that you yourself quoted. But, it doesn’t matter, I already deleted my offending posts and I’m finished with this. I added a wink smilie to my post from earlier today to signify that I meant the post to be taken as humor. Basically admitting that I was being a jerk before.

Being a jerk and exhibiting hallmark abusive behavior are not the same thing. Other forumers may excuse it, but I am a survivor of abuse and I will not. You’ve got to do more work than just a posting a coy wink face emoji after deleting all the evidence. Maybe start with a genuine apology where you admit your mistake and change the behavior pattern?

This post itself is in line with the abusive pattern, where after the fact the abuser erases evidence and then jests about the infraction without ever showing remorse.

[bilbao58]

Originally Posted by wwmiv

Being a jerk and exhibiting hallmark abusive behavior are not the same thing. Other forumers may excuse it, but I am a survivor of abuse and I will not. You’ve got to do more work than just a posting a coy wink face emoji after deleting all the evidence. Maybe start with a genuine apology where you admit your mistake and change the behavior pattern?

This post itself is in line with the abusive pattern, where after the fact the abuser erases evidence and then jests about the infraction without ever showing remorse.

I deleted the posts so as to not incite anyone else’s anger and because it was pointed out to me that it was against the rules. Not to cover up evidence.

[Syndic]

Any building calling itself The Republic in the Texas state capital better have some pretty overt kitschy Texanness to it. Slap a cowboy hat on that sucker as the crown. Or have a spire with a star on top. SOMETHING.

I like it, though. I'd love to work there.

[N90]

That is one very sexy shade of blue, the Republic!

[KevinFromTexas]

The thought of Austin having the tallest in Texas makes me smile. Not just that it's my hometown and that would be totally badass to see, but also that little ole Austin that always chose to do things differently in Texas could achieve the same records that the rest of the state did.

Still, Austin has had 4 new tallest in less than 20 years, so it's not exactly like we're hurting for a new tallest.

I will say, too, that if 98 Red River does get built we likely won't see a new tallest for a long time, although, I had sort of thought the same about 6 X Guadalupe after it broke ground.

Here are the numbers for Texas' big cities and the years their last 5 tallest record holders were completed.

El Paso - 2020, 1971, 1962, 1930, 1921.

Austin - 2019, 2010, 2008, 2004, 1984.

Corpus Christi - 1988, 1983, 1951, 1942, 1929.

San Antonio - 1988, 1929, 1928, 1926, 1890.

Dallas - 1985, 1974, 1965, 1954, 1943.

Fort Worth - 1983, 1982, 1974, 1957, 1921.

Houston - 1982, 1980, 1970, 1963, 1962.

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3 of those have since been demolished. One each in Fort Worth, San Antonio, and Corpus Christi.

[H2O]

Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas

The thought of Austin having the tallest in Texas makes me smile. Not just that it's my hometown and that would be totally badass to see, but also that little ole Austin that always chose to do things differently in Texas could achieve the same records that the rest of the state did.

Still, Austin has had 4 new tallest in less than 20 years, so it's not exactly like we're hurting for a new tallest.

I will say, too, that if 98 Red River does get built we likely won't see a new tallest for a long time, although, I had sort of thought the same about 6 X Guadalupe after it broke ground.

Here are the numbers for Texas' big cities and the years their last 5 tallest record holders were completed.

El Paso - 2020, 1971, 1962, 1930, 1921.

Austin - 2019, 2010, 2008, 2004, 1984.

Corpus Christi - 1988, 1983, 1951, 1942, 1929.

San Antonio - 1988, 1929, 1928, 1926, 1890.

Dallas - 1985, 1974, 1965, 1954, 1943.

Fort Worth - 1983, 1982, 1974, 1957, 1921.

Houston - 1982, 1980, 1970, 1963, 1962.

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3 of those have since been demolished. One each in Fort Worth, San Antonio, and Corpus Christi.

Not to mention that the Austin list may soon look something like: 2025, 2024, 2023, 2022, 2019

[Dariusb]

Another thing I like about Austin is that the majority of their high-rises are located downtown and not spread all over the city.

[KevinFromTexas]

Originally Posted by H2O

Not to mention that the Austin list may soon look something like: 2025, 2024, 2023, 2022, 2019

Not likely, though. After 6 X Guadalupe is finished in 2022, we'll have 98 Red River to look forward to beat it. That means that whatever new tallest is built after that will have to be taller than 1,022 feet. At the moment, I'm not sure we'll have anything else that would be. I think the ATX Tower East will probably be around 950 feet, but I could be wrong about that.

Also, I think before Austinites gloat too much about it or before other places feel jealous or maybe worry about their reputations now, nothing has changed. I love every square inch of Texas and one place getting new developments just makes me happy for them. It doesn't have to take away from another place if they do. Sure, Austin is kinda going nuts now, but we have a lot of catching up to do. I don't see it as city versus city. I look at the other cities in Texas as the standard to live up to. And it's not that we're trying to be like them or one up them. It's just the other cities have always been bigger so yeah, we used them as yardsticks. Just don't have a hot head about it.

[bilbao58]

Originally Posted by Dariusb

Another thing I like about Austin is that the majority of their high-rises are located downtown and not spread all over the city.

Not to start any city-versus-city argument, but a certain large swampy city some 160 miles east-southeast of Austin has, that I can think of off the top of my head, at least 10 high rise apartment or condo buildings existing including two under construction in Downtown. I think all are more than 20 stories. The two under construction are 46 and 42 stories. Three more just outside Downtown in Midtown. I'm sure Dallas also has a number of high rise residential buildings in its downtown. It's very easy to not stay up-to-date with what is going on in other cities.


I'm not saying this to put Austin down, just pointing out that it's hard to notice the new high rises in Houston's downtown when they're surrounded by taller buildings. As for high rises outside of downtown, there is a lot to be said for having a 30th floor view OF downtown out your window.

[bilbao58]

Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas

I love every square inch of Texas and one place getting new developments just makes me happy for them.

My recent jealous bitchiness notwithstanding, I love what is going on in Austin. Though I'd be lying if I said I'd be happy for Austin to take the tallest title from my hometown, the Great Swampopolis to the East.

Edited to add: I am constantly disappointed and pissed that so much that is built in Houston is dull and conservative compared to Austin and Dallas. With the exception of the MFAH and the Menil.

[Dariusb]

Originally Posted by bilbao58

Not to start any city-versus-city argument, but a certain large swampy city some 160 miles east-southeast of Austin has, that I can think of off the top of my head, at least 10 high rise apartment or condo buildings existing including two under construction in Downtown. I think all are more than 20 stories. The two under construction are 46 and 42 stories. Three more just outside Downtown in Midtown. I'm sure Dallas also has a number of high rise residential buildings in its downtown. It's very easy to not stay up-to-date with what is going on in other cities.


I'm not saying this to put Austin down, just pointing out that it's hard to notice the new high rises in Houston's downtown when they're surrounded by taller buildings. As for high rises outside of downtown, there is a lot to be said for having a 30th floor view OF downtown out your window.

Oh I'd never put down any of the Texas Titans. I love them all. I just made that comment because if Austin built more of it's current buildings outside of downtown it'd take away from how impressive it is. Houston's skylines, especially downtown, uptown and TMC, are all impressive by themselves. Could you imagine the view of all 3 were joined together?

[bilbao58]

Originally Posted by Dariusb

Could you imagine the view of all 3 were joined together?

LOL! We architecturally-interested swamp critters do that constantly!

[KevinFromTexas]

Ha, there are a lot of buildings in Austin that have gone up in the last 10 to 15 years that really don't do much for me, and I'm more than a little disappointed they have become the face of our skyline. I'm also really critical of the lighting of our skyline which really leaves a lot to be desired. I think Dallas and San Antonio really have the best lit skylines in Texas, but there are some notable exceptions in the rest of the state.

[H2O]

Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas

Not likely, though. After 6 X Guadalupe is finished in 2022, we'll have 98 Red River to look forward to beat it. That means that whatever new tallest is built after that will have to be taller than 1,022 feet. At the moment, I'm not sure we'll have anything else that would be. I think the ATX Tower East will probably be around 950 feet, but I could be wrong about that.

Yep. When I wrote my list I was just thinking about everything in the works that could be taller than the Independent. Of course, unless they somehow were completed before 6X, they would not be a NEW tallest, just taller. Even so, our top five wouldn't likely have to reach back past 2008.

[Dariusb]

Ok. I've read comments from some of you saying that the new towers in Austin aren't your cup of tea or on the bland side. In your opinion, what are some architectural styles you'd like or architects you'd want to build in the city?

[drummer]

I personally think a much taller version of the Frank Erwin Center should be built. Maybe 800' or so....