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Old Posted Apr 28, 2021, 6:09 PM
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Minneapolis had what some say is the 2nd worst riots in US history last year, so not exactly this utopia where everything is great and fine and dandy, supposedly so unlike "Detroit".

Detroit didn't have any riots this last year, at all. So really everybody on both sides should keep the city's name out of their mouths and keyboards and quit these false comparisons made at the expense of a place they know nothing about.
Detroit has become a dog whistle. Some are trying to use Minneapolis or Portland in a similar fashion except instead of in Detroit’s case aka black and scary the more nuanced “out of control wokeness” or some shit.

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ESL, Gary and Flint actually suck, though.

I mean, no doubt they're full of nice people and they've been totally screwed by the feds and everyone else, and they do have potential, but I think it's fair to say that these are objectively unattractive places to live right now.

To me, it isn't crazy when someone is saying East St. Louis sucks, it's when they're saying one of our great American urban centers suck. Like when people say that Portland is a riot zone or Chicago a shooting gallery. And SF is apparently the worst city on earth.
I wouldn’t put Flint in the same category it has major issues of blight abandonment but there isn’t to the near wholesale level you’ll find in a Gary, East St. Louis or Highland Park. The difference is those rose to prominence partially as “industrial corporate tax havens” while that rode on the back of their larger urban counterparts.

The city developed independently with the independent institutions. The kind of institutions the knowledge economy is built on it’s not a resounding success story but able to to resurrect to the level of functioning city for the most part yes.

There’s at least a viable path and plan. Downtown was able to leverage The University of Michigan Flint, Kettering University & Hurley Medical Center to refill downtown with new lofts, apartments and renovated homes in Carriage Town. The Flint River is being naturalized with green space added and there’s a feasibility study on taking out 475 in the downtown area reconnecting it with east Village.

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Old Posted Apr 28, 2021, 6:17 PM
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I'm someone who lives there, thinks Fox News gets more things right than MSNBC, knows SF has a LOT of problems, and still would rather live here than anyplace else I can think of (and I've visited just about every other major city in the US--the other cities even in consideration are just a couple like NY, Chicago and New Orleans although small town living in New England and some places like it in Montana and areas of Appalachia attract). SF really does need its own Mayor Giuliani (not the later version, the early 9/11 version) to clean up the streets and the property crime and make the place as beautiful as it could be again. It's been taken over by anything-goes libs who have allowed garbage to accumulate in the streets (this was really noticeable when I came back after 5 months), small shops to be robbed blind by shoplifters and not just tents but water-soaked piles of rotting cast-off clothing to accumulate on sidewalks. Aside from that, it's Heaven of Eearth.
Maybe I’m being slightly offensive, but maybe I’m not, but rich computer geeks aren’t usually the fighting back type, nor are they the type to do dirty physical jobs like cleaning. You usually don’t see this happening in working class White neighborhoods, because they’ll take action.
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Old Posted Apr 28, 2021, 10:32 PM
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https://www.statesman.com/story/news...ns/7391724002/
As Texas' Census count comes up short, some blame effort to add question about U.S. citizenship

Philip Jankowski
Austin American-Statesman

The somewhat deflating news from the U.S. Census Bureau on Monday that Texas picked up two new seats in Congress instead of a widely projected three left some questioning whether politics or the pandemic might have created an undercount.

Texas came up about 190,000 people short of earning a 39th seat in the U.S. House, according to state population growth figures released Monday. While Texas continued to add more people than any other state, the final tally coming in 0.6% lower than projections was enough to keep the Lone Star State from a 41st Electoral College vote.

Michael Li, redistricting counsel at the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University, pointed at some Republican Party policies for playing a role in Texas coming up short of the projected population tally. The lack of investment in census outreach coupled with the Trump administration's attempt to place a citizenship question on the census might have led to an undercount in Texas, Li said.

"I think the minute they announced (the citizenship question) at the end of 2018, a lot of the damage was done," Li said. "It was difficult to put the genie back in the bottle after that happened."
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Old Posted Apr 29, 2021, 3:57 PM
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https://www.statesman.com/story/news...ns/7391724002/
As Texas' Census count comes up short, some blame effort to add question about U.S. citizenship

Philip Jankowski
Austin American-Statesman

The somewhat deflating news from the U.S. Census Bureau on Monday that Texas picked up two new seats in Congress instead of a widely projected three left some questioning whether politics or the pandemic might have created an undercount.

Texas came up about 190,000 people short of earning a 39th seat in the U.S. House, according to state population growth figures released Monday. While Texas continued to add more people than any other state, the final tally coming in 0.6% lower than projections was enough to keep the Lone Star State from a 41st Electoral College vote.

Michael Li, redistricting counsel at the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University, pointed at some Republican Party policies for playing a role in Texas coming up short of the projected population tally. The lack of investment in census outreach coupled with the Trump administration's attempt to place a citizenship question on the census might have led to an undercount in Texas, Li said.

"I think the minute they announced (the citizenship question) at the end of 2018, a lot of the damage was done," Li said. "It was difficult to put the genie back in the bottle after that happened."
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Old Posted Apr 29, 2021, 5:49 PM
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Montana also broke 1M for the first time, which leaves only 6 states under 1M.
Delaware will soon break that plateau soon. It's only about 10K short of hitting the 1M mark. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delaware
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Old Posted Apr 29, 2021, 6:50 PM
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Delaware will soon break that plateau soon. It's only about 10K short of hitting the 1M mark. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delaware
Delaware has been sort of Sun-Belt like in recent years with the growth in popularity among Northeastern retirees.

Crazy to think though at current growth rates Delaware will likely have two congressional districts in the 2030s.
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Old Posted Apr 29, 2021, 6:54 PM
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https://www.statesman.com/story/news...ns/7391724002/
As Texas' Census count comes up short, some blame effort to add question about U.S. citizenship

Philip Jankowski
Austin American-Statesman

The somewhat deflating news from the U.S. Census Bureau on Monday that Texas picked up two new seats in Congress instead of a widely projected three left some questioning whether politics or the pandemic might have created an undercount.

Texas came up about 190,000 people short of earning a 39th seat in the U.S. House, according to state population growth figures released Monday. While Texas continued to add more people than any other state, the final tally coming in 0.6% lower than projections was enough to keep the Lone Star State from a 41st Electoral College vote.

Michael Li, redistricting counsel at the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University, pointed at some Republican Party policies for playing a role in Texas coming up short of the projected population tally. The lack of investment in census outreach coupled with the Trump administration's attempt to place a citizenship question on the census might have led to an undercount in Texas, Li said.

"I think the minute they announced (the citizenship question) at the end of 2018, a lot of the damage was done," Li said. "It was difficult to put the genie back in the bottle after that happened."
This sounds like a job for Rudy!
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Old Posted Apr 29, 2021, 7:34 PM
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The US population has grown by 50 million in only 20 years!
That is 1.6x the entire population of Canada in 2000.

The population gain is the equivalent of adding the entire nation of Spain: 47 million.
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The US population has grown by 50 million in only 20 years!
That is 1.6x the entire population of Canada in 2000.

The population gain is the equivalent of adding the entire nation of Spain: 47 million.
Both US and Canada are very under-populated by world standards. When you fly low enough on a plane across the US, you barely see any human habitation at all, aside from farms.
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Old Posted May 6, 2021, 3:19 PM
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Both US and Canada are very under-populated by world standards. When you fly low enough on a plane across the US, you barely see any human habitation at all, aside from farms.
but we sure do love our lights!!!


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Old Posted May 6, 2021, 3:31 PM
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but we sure do love our lights!!!
Its actually just a really bad resolution with composite images. In reality, it is much dimmer and the lights are sparser. The light just overflows over more pixels at that scale. Just how if you see those debris/satellites in space images around the Earth orbit and it looks like there are a lot. In reality, they are spaced out on a scale of an ant per football field of space.
For example, here is how the densest part of the US looks NYC-Philadephia agglomeration with a better resolution instead of just one light blob. About 10% of the entire US population is in this shot:
You can also see that even at this scale the image is blurry and the light is overflowing to neighboring pixels.

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Old Posted May 6, 2021, 3:37 PM
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Its actually just a really bad resolution with composite images. In reality, it is much dimmer and the lights are sparser. The light just overflows over more pixels at that scale. Just how if you see those debris/satellites in space images around the Earth orbit and it looks like there are a lot. In reality, they are spaced out on a scale of an ant per football field.
i was just making a joke.

regardless of image quality and pixels, on a relative basis the US, at least the eastern half of it, is extremely luminous compared to a place like bangladesh, which is actually extremely densely populated at the national level.
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Old Posted May 6, 2021, 3:43 PM
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i was just making a joke.

regardless of image quality and pixels, on a relative basis the US, at least the eastern half of it, is extremely luminous compared to a place like bangladesh, which is actually extremely densely populated at the national level.
Yes, we love to light up our streets and highways.
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Why is Brooklyn/Queens parts of LI a different color from Manhattan? Did they roll out new LED white burning bulbs before Manhattan did?
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