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Old Posted Oct 21, 2021, 2:21 PM
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Was mostly referring to how the rendering makes the building look like it was plucked from alongside a highway in Palatine.
This is a design complaint not a land use complaint. It is very urban from a land use perspective.

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Sometimes starting with a statement project does more to catalyze an area than a slow & safe cash flow stream for the developer. Seeing the other projects SB has put up, they seem to be more focused on making money & establishing themselves right now than imparting a lasting legacy on this city. Here's to hoping that changes with LY
"Imparting a lasting legacy" is not a business model. Developers build things for money, otherwise they wouldn't. Some people on this board fetishize uneconomical projects/buildings because they come with pretty renderings no matter if they are leasable at rents to justify their cost. Predictably these people are almost always disappointed because the entities that can afford those kind of vanity projects are very few and far between.
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Old Posted Oct 21, 2021, 11:34 PM
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This is a design complaint not a land use complaint. It is very urban from a land use perspective.
sure?

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"Imparting a lasting legacy" is not a business model. Developers build things for money, otherwise they wouldn't. Some people on this board fetishize uneconomical projects/buildings because they come with pretty renderings no matter if they are leasable at rents to justify their cost. Predictably these people are almost always disappointed because the entities that can afford those kind of vanity projects are very few and far between.
1) SB is on its way to becoming one of those entities that can afford the kind of "vanity projects" that this site/city deserves. per my post, "here's to hoping"

2) Not everything has to be econo-boxes or vanity projects. We used to regularly put up beautiful structures. Now we're lucky if the vanity projects aren't VE'd to death or killed by a recession.

3) It's also quite obvious that this building was built with profitability as top priority, as its certainly not winning any design awards. Maybe more of a sign of the times when they came to prominence, but almost all of SBs own developments are either 300+ ft too short or feel soulless.
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Old Posted Oct 22, 2021, 12:58 PM
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1) SB is on its way to becoming one of those entities that can afford the kind of "vanity projects" that this site/city deserves. per my post, "here's to hoping"

2) Not everything has to be econo-boxes or vanity projects. We used to regularly put up beautiful structures. Now we're lucky if the vanity projects aren't VE'd to death or killed by a recession.

3) It's also quite obvious that this building was built with profitability as top priority, as its certainly not winning any design awards. Maybe more of a sign of the times when they came to prominence, but almost all of SBs own developments are either 300+ ft too short or feel soulless.
This all just reads like NYC envy because at their rents fancier projects, on average, can get built. Which...duh.
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Old Posted Oct 22, 2021, 2:30 PM
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This all just reads like NYC envy because at their rents fancier projects, on average, can get built. Which...duh.
Yes because historically, NYC has been the only city to put up nice buildings /s
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Old Posted Oct 22, 2021, 4:32 PM
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I don't get the complaints about this one. It's far from an "econo-box" from both a land-use and design perspective. Should turn out very elegant.
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Old Posted Oct 22, 2021, 5:04 PM
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meh, glad the whole megadevelopment is starting, but wake me up when the taller towers start construction or the 606/riverwalk extension starts.

Fantastic to see the skyline grow outward and to see another vacant plot of land developed, nonetheless.
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Sterling Bay is not slowing down on Lincoln Yards. Renderings for 1685 N. Throop, plus "The Steelyard"

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Introducing 1685 N Throop, the first creative office opportunity at Lincoln Yards. Located in the heart of The Steelyard, this 365,000 SF premier development offers unmatched accessibility within Chicago’s most vibrant and connected new neighborhood.
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The Steelyard will embody the spirit of Lincoln Yards as the place where Chicago connects, bringing together local residents and visitors alike to meet, play, celebrate and innovate.



https://www.lincolnyards.com/#1685-n-throop
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More generic midrises but hopefully this shows that this project is truly coming along.
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I like it, sort of reminds me of Coal Drops Yards in London.
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Spotted a crane today in the LY area. I'm assuming it's Ally?
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A little blurb in Block Club today:

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He specifically referred to 3 bridges, so that must mean Dominick, Armitage, and a pedestrian bridge at Concord. Cortland is in the project zone too, but that bridge exists already and is the city's responsibility to maintain. Good to see the alderman is committed to this, since Sterling Bay's most recent plans have been silent on the Concord bridge.
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A little blurb in Block Club today:



He specifically referred to 3 bridges, so that must mean Dominick, Armitage, and a pedestrian bridge at Concord. Cortland is in the project zone too, but that bridge exists already and is the city's responsibility to maintain. Good to see the alderman is committed to this, since Sterling Bay's most recent plans have been silent on the Concord bridge.
I was unaware that they were planning to build an Armitage Ave bridge, that's pretty neat as its definitely necessary to ease congestion on Cortland, and all the surrounding streets & the Kennedy ramps. Will that link up somehow with Armitage east of Racine? Or will it simply end at Kingsbury (perhaps Clybourn via Magnolia?) That entire area is currently a traffic nightmare, and I know the city is planning to re-do a lot of the intersections there, including the Elston/Armitage/Ashland entanglement.

Its always been a mystery to me why the city never built an Armitage Ave bridge from the get go a century ago.
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I was unaware that they were planning to build an Armitage Ave bridge, that's pretty neat as its definitely necessary to ease congestion on Cortland, and all the surrounding streets & the Kennedy ramps. Will that link up somehow with Armitage east of Racine? Or will it simply end at Kingsbury (perhaps Clybourn via Magnolia?) That entire area is currently a traffic nightmare, and I know the city is planning to re-do a lot of the intersections there, including the Elston/Armitage/Ashland entanglement.

Its always been a mystery to me why the city never built an Armitage Ave bridge from the get go a century ago.
Hope that means they will redo the underpass where the railroads cross over Ashland. I have always hated that one.
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Hope that means they will redo the underpass where the railroads cross over Ashland. I have always hated that one.
That bridge is awful. It would be nice to see it free of columns. Something defining like the truss bridge down on Torrence and Brainard.

I bet the existing crumbling overpass is just cosmetic damage. It could probably last another 50 years only sweeping up the broken concrete below
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I think the idea of an armitage bridge is a misquote or misunderstanding. I've never seen that in the final plans (granted plans can change though), nor would it make much sense because you cannot connect armitage on the west of the river to armitage on the east of the river.

you'd have to buy a bunch of buildings and tear them down, which could be done, but kind of unnecessary when you have cortland ave so close already.

these buildings are not part of LY today and you are getting into hard core NIMBY land of Lincoln Park

and again, kind of an unnecessary expense when you look closely at a map of the area
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I think the idea of an armitage bridge is a misquote or misunderstanding. I've never seen that in the final plans (granted plans can change though), nor would it make much sense because you cannot connect armitage on the west of the river to armitage on the east of the river.

you'd have to buy a bunch of buildings and tear them down, which could be done, but kind of unnecessary when you have cortland ave so close already.

these buildings are not part of LY today and you are getting into hard core NIMBY land of Lincoln Park

and again, kind of an unnecessary expense when you look closely at a map of the area
Found this earlier in this thread Slide 13 details the plans for an extension of Armitage over the river and has a diagram.
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Found this earlier in this thread Slide 13 details the plans for an extension of Armitage over the river and has a diagram.
I see... so extend it to Kingsbury, but not connect it to armitage ave on the east of the river
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I see... so extend it to Kingsbury, but not connect it to armitage ave on the east of the river
Yes. It wouldn't fully restore the missing link of Armitage but it would provide an alternative. Plenty of traffic that crosses the river at Cortland is not heading to continue east on Armitage, but go north on Racine or southeast on Clybourn so this would be an alternative.

There's obviously no political way to restore the missing link of Armitage; what politician is gonna kick a beloved animal shelter out so they can ease traffic for rich Lincoln Park trixies?
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