Surrey/South Fraser Updates

[Equinox71]

Took some pics of the Melrose crane going up today (133rd and Central Ave) - maybe time for its own thread?

[cairnstone]

Originally Posted by EhJay

I thought I heard the building wasn't to code and that's one of the reasons that it's sat empty for so many years. If that's the case, might be that the City hasn't provided any occupancy to the new owner. But also leasing that whole place within two months sounded like a scam more than anything. There's a lot of empty leased spots around Central that are in better locations.

the building is just base build so all the mechanical etc is just at roughin stage no finished plumbing as it was spec built and the tenant would complete the project with their GC. But since its been sitting so long I’m sure there will need to be some upgrades over and above standard TI works.

[Changing City]

There appears to be only one new proposal for towers in Surrey so far in 2022. (There are several earlier projects in the Surrey Central area where detailed designs are being announced, but no new projects). Interestingly, the scheme is in Fleetwood, where Dawson and Sawyer have submitted an initial project with two 38 storey towers at 15780 Fraser Highway, next to their Fleetwood Village lowrise condo development.

[hollywoodnorth]

Originally Posted by Changing City

There appears to be only one new proposal for towers in Surrey so far in 2022. (There are several earlier projects in the Surrey Central area where detailed designs are being announced, but no new projects). Interestingly, the scheme is in Fleetwood, where Dawson and Sawyer have submitted an initial project with two 38 storey towers at 15780 Fraser Highway, next to their Fleetwood Village lowrise condo development.

and the Fleetwood rollout starts!

do you have a link on that new two tower proposal?

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by hollywoodnorth

and the Fleetwood rollout starts!

do you have a link on that new two tower proposal?

Nothing to link to yet except the Surrey list of current rezonings.

[brophy87]

Vandelay Industries is back in action

https://www.reddit.com/r/SurreyBC/co...m_source=share

[Westbased]

Just under 4,000 units proposed on King George and 80th Avenue by Dawson Sawyer. Absolutely massive project over what appears to be 15 six-story buildings.

To bad the LRT didn't go through, perhaps a skytrain may make sense in a few years...

https://apps.surrey.ca/Online-Develo...ar=22&seq=0222

https://apps.surrey.ca/Online-Develo...ar=22&seq=0221

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by Westbased

Just under 4,000 units proposed on King George and 80th Avenue by Dawson Sawyer. Absolutely massive project over what appears to be 15 six-story buildings.

To bad the LRT didn't go through, perhaps a skytrain may make sense in a few years...

https://apps.surrey.ca/Online-Develo...ar=22&seq=0222

https://apps.surrey.ca/Online-Develo...ar=22&seq=0221

It's the two trailer parks at 78th and King George. It'll be a massive upzoning of the area. Hopefully 77th, 78th and / or 79th are extended to 138th as that would help build the street grid out.

[Westbased]

Originally Posted by Sheba

It's the two trailer parks at 78th and King George. It'll be a massive upzoning of the area. Hopefully 77th, 78th and / or 79th are extended to 138th as that would help build the street grid out.

Hmmm, highly unlikely as there is a creek that runs all along the back of the site from north to south. City of Surrey has gone nuclear when it comes to preventing any activity within 15-30 meters of a creek in my experience.

At final build out this likely means all resident traffic will be onto King George.

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by Westbased

Hmmm, highly unlikely as there is a creek that runs all along the back of the site from north to south. City of Surrey has gone nuclear when it comes to preventing any activity within 15-30 meters of a creek in my experience.

At final build out this likely means all resident traffic will be onto King George.

They're doing it with 84th - it'll cross Bear Creek.

I suspect they'll use 78th as an internal street for accessing all the buildings. There's a walkway for 79th and it travels right past an elementary school so that's iffy but possible. I have no idea if they'd do 77th or not.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by Westbased

Just under 4,000 units proposed on King George and 80th Avenue by Dawson Sawyer. Absolutely massive project over what appears to be 15 six-story buildings.

To bad the LRT didn't go through, perhaps a skytrain may make sense in a few years...

https://apps.surrey.ca/Online-Develo...ar=22&seq=0222

https://apps.surrey.ca/Online-Develo...ar=22&seq=0221

That's pretty much pre-SkyTrain Central Broadway density; the R1's getting full BRT status any day now, so transportation shouldn't be a problem.

[GMasterAres]

It's not a creek it is a brook (Hunt Brook) that runs through that stretch and it originates basically from a storm drain behind one of the trailer parks (I used to go into the storm drain with friends as a stupid kid growing up). While I applaud maintaining eco corridors, that whole stretch especially with the increased density needs a few more connections. At least one at 80th Ave and possibly 78th could go a long ways to improving general traffic in Newton.

Right now your only east-west routes between 140 and KGB are @ 74th and then 88th (until 84th is pushed through finally) but even with 84th that is 10 Surrey blocks or roughly 20-25 Vancouver blocks.

Could you imagine going anywhere in Vancouver and needing to go North/South 25 blocks before you could go East/West 4 blocks?

[mcj]

Originally Posted by GMasterAres

Could you imagine going anywhere in Vancouver and needing to go North/South 25 blocks before you could go East/West 4 blocks?

Yes, unfortunately. Marpole is this way and all of South Vancouver between Marine and 49th Ave has no East-West bus service. Not to mention the 16 block gaps between 41st Ave and King Ed west of Cambie with no East-West bus service, despite having a fully connected 33rd Ave available. East Van between Broadway and Hastings is another large gap with no East-West service on 1st ave.

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by mcj

Yes, unfortunately. Marpole is this way and all of South Vancouver between Marine and 49th Ave has no East-West bus service. Not to mention the 16 block gaps between 41st Ave and King Ed west of Cambie with no East-West bus service, despite having a fully connected 33rd Ave available. East Van between Broadway and Hastings is another large gap with no East-West service on 1st ave.

That's by bus vs this is by car. The east - west bus service is even worse in Surrey.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by GMasterAres

Right now your only east-west routes between 140 and KGB are @ 74th and then 88th (until 84th is pushed through finally) but even with 84th that is 10 Surrey blocks or roughly 20-25 Vancouver blocks.

Could you imagine going anywhere in Vancouver and needing to go North/South 25 blocks before you could go East/West 4 blocks?

In Vancouver a similar situation exists between Main Street and Clark Drive. There are no north-south routes between Prior and Terminal/E 1st - which is actually a greater distance than 74th to 84th in Surrey. There are also no north/south routes between Terminal/E 1st and Great Northern Way either - that's also over 2km with no route north/south.

[GMasterAres]

Originally Posted by Changing City

In Vancouver a similar situation exists between Main Street and Clark Drive. There are no north-south routes between Prior and Terminal/E 1st - which is actually a greater distance than 74th to 84th in Surrey. There are also no north/south routes between Terminal/E 1st and Great Northern Way either - that's also over 2km with no route north/south.

Yah and that section absolutely sucks to navigate in traffic especially rush hour.

[hollywoodnorth]

Interesting Guildford strata wind up (has sold already) that will see the tear down of a Built in 1994 / 20 floor tower.




http://stratagone.com/camelot.htm

[SpongeG]

Group 161 Architecture has signs asll over Surrey for projects its designed, such as Viktor on 108th.

I was curious as I see their name a lot and looked them up and saw this one they designed for 9711 – 137 St. | Surrey, BC.
It is between King George Station and the Hospital. Mixed use. It is at the development permit stage.





imagesL group161.com

[SpongeG]

Also from them is this one called Sequoia. It is also in the development permit process.

133 St. & 104 Ave. | Surrey, BC.







group161.com

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

Group 161 Architecture has signs asll over Surrey for projects its designed, such as Viktor on 108th.

I was curious as I see their name a lot and looked them up and saw this one they designed for 9711 – 137 St. | Surrey, BC.
It is between King George Station and the Hospital. Mixed use. It is at the development permit stage.

It's a marketing thing. The fine print says "Group 161 is not an architectural firm, all architectural services are provided through our firms that hold the certificate of practice". The firms are DF Architecture, Atelier Pacific Architecture and Barnett Dembek Architects. Sequoia is designed by DF.

DF also designed the 9711 137 St tower; there is an office building proposed only a couple of years ago at that address.

EDIT - the 137 St project seems to be an office and 'student accommodation' tower that Jayen Properties are planning. They claim to have been around a while as RBI Group, and as well as this 36 storey tower they are the developer that bought The Source and the Cobalt, on Main St, which they seem to think they can redevelop as a 20-storey long-term rental and hotel. (The rental will have to be non-market SRO replacement under current City policy, so we'll see how that works out). So far as Jayen they have a presales townhouse project in Willowbrook that looks to have a lot of future phases. The President also heads PHI Hotel Group.