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Old Posted Apr 17, 2023, 3:05 PM
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How would the chilling pipes get damaged when they would be encased in concrete like an arena?
Arenas freeze an inch on top of the concrete. That might be a good way to get a base but assume a full blown heatpump would have to be more elaborate.

Was the temperature even the problem this year? Seems to me it was snow and the NCC's typical fatalist attitude as we ended up with a cold March..
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Was the temperature even the problem this year? Seems to me it was snow and the NCC's typical fatalist attitude as we ended up with a cold March..
I think the snow was definitely a part of it, but they typically want several days of -10 to get good quality ice before they open it, and we didn't get much of that this year, and when we did, we did end up getting snow storms.
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Arenas freeze an inch on top of the concrete. That might be a good way to get a base but assume a full blown heatpump would have to be more elaborate.

Was the temperature even the problem this year? Seems to me it was snow and the NCC's typical fatalist attitude as we ended up with a cold March..
The ice that formed on the canal was garbage ice with bad structural integrity, because of the sloppier conditions in January.
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Maybe they'll use a better fixture than the stupid globes which send most of the light up as light pollution and actively blind pathway users in the darker areas.
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New all-electric boat sets sail on the Rideau Canal

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Updated June 8, 2023 7:21


Ottawa Boat Cruise is expanding its all-electric fleet along the Rideau Canal, and is committing to electrify its full fleet of boats and vessels over the next three years.

The company's first all-electric vessel, Queen Elizabeth Drive, has been operating along the Rideau Canal since 2016. The 95-passenger cruise ship, takes visitors from downtown Ottawa, at the National Arts Centre, for a 90-minute ride towards Dow’s Lake and back again.

And without the loud rumble of a typical boat’s diesel engine, the whisper quiet ride offers a relaxing and scenic views of historic landmarks, like the Pretoria Bridge, the Aberdeen Pavilion at Lansdowne Park and Dow's Lake.

On Thursday, Ottawa Boat Cruise, which offers tours along the Rideau Canal and Ottawa River, launched its second all-electric ship, Colonel By Drive. The vessel will operate in tandem with its sister vessel, which company director of operations Benoit Gatien says shows the increase of demand as the public turns to responsible tourism.

OBC has been running along the Ottawa and Gatineau waterways for more than 45 years. It also announced the creation of a new branch on Thursday called EKEAU, and will be fully greening its operations with the launch of three new locally designed and manufactured electric passenger vessels in the next three years.

"Our goal is to cut all emissions for our operations by 2026 and to make the national capital region a world leader in green tourism," Robert Taillefer, Ottawa Boat Cruise CEO said. "As one of the region’s most important tourism attractions, with hundreds of thousands of guests each year, we feel it is incumbent upon us to innovate and ensure our operations are not contributing to climate change."

Next summer, the company will unveil the world’s first fully electric ‘amphibus‘, an amphibious vehicle which takes tourists on land and water. The classic ‘Paula D’ cruise ship, which operates along the Ottawa River, will be replaced with a fully electric, 500-passenger catamaran in 2025.

"This comes at a very opportune time for the nation’s capital," says Tobi Nussbaum, National Capital Commission CEO. "The NCC is reimagining ways to reconnect to the historic river culture that once defined the capital, to allow visitors and residents greater access to shoreline amenities. Today’s announcement will complement those efforts and provide yet another option to explore the spectacular views from our most scenic waterways and shorelines."

Ottawa Boat Cruise offers a variety of tours, seven days a week, which can be booked in person and online.

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Starting May 10, 2024, we'll have water taxis along the Rideau Canal in time for the Tulip Festival.

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Deachman: Water Taxi! Take me down the Rideau Canal to Lansdowne

Parks Canada is starting a pilot project next year on Ottawa's heritage waterway. Meanwhile, a taxi service on the Ottawa River plans to expand. It's about time.

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Published Nov 24, 2023 ‱ Last updated 17 hours ago ‱ 3 minute read


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Parks Canada confirmed on Friday that water taxis will operate on the Rideau Canal beginning next spring. The pilot project will be run by Ottawa Boat Lines, which already operates boat tours on the canal and Ottawa River. The service, commencing with the May 10 opening of the Canadian Tulip Festival, will last “several weeks.”

The service, said Parks Canada communications officer Maureen Belej, will “provide a less costly alternative to tourists and locals to both view the City of Ottawa from the water but also to disembark at key landmarks, cultural attractions and destinations along the way.” No other details were provided, and no one at Ottawa Boat Lines replied to requests for comment.

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Saw Aqua Taxi boats maybe a dozen times this year and only once they had customers on board. Felt like the Floating Tiki bar was getting more use than them.

I feel like they are doing it wrong. Taxi is something you take when you go from point A to point B. Why would you go to Richmond Landing lol. Or why would you go to the Museum if you can just walk there enjoying some nice views.

Maybe they should rebrand and serve drinks on board. Or do some hop-on, hop-off tours. You buy a ticket for the day, land near Museum for a visit, then hop back on, land at Richmond landing, have lunch at Mill Street Pub or have a picnic. Then go to the Boat House for a swim, visiting the Rideau waterfalls and listening to some history in the process. I think there is something there.

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Saw Aqua Taxi boats maybe a dozen times this year and only once they had customers on board. Felt like the Floating Tiki bar was getting more use than them.

I feel like they are doing it wrong. Taxi is something you take when you go from point A to point B. Why would you go to Richmond Landing lol. Or why would you go to the Museum if you can just walk there enjoying some nice views.

Maybe they should rebrand and serve drinks on board. Or do some hop-on, hop-off tours. You buy a ticket for the day, land near Museum for a visit, then hop back on, land at Richmond landing, have lunch at Mill Street Pub or have a picnic. Then go to the Boat House for a swim, visiting the Rideau waterfalls and listening to some history in the process. I think there is something there.
I’m assuming you are talking about the Ottawa River. Given the significant elevation difference on the Ottawa side and the lack of destinations accessible from the river. I can see it not being very popular. I think water taxis running between Dows Lake and the Plaza Bridge with key stops in between could be very popular. Hopefully they’ll use something like the water taxis used on False Creek in Vancouver.

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For sure, a Canal water taxi service could do quite well with several important destinations. I think the Ottawa River water taxis are not well knowns and hard to reach, which impacts their usage. Whatever they are doing in Vancouver works, because everyone knows about them. We need to do the same here.

Richmond Landing is not a destination (but it may become with the new Heating Plant), but it's one of the few logical landing spots. Adding the River House should give it more visibility and an exciting destination that otherwise has few transportation options. Would love to see Victoria Island and Zibi (not sure if it's possible due to the currents) docks as well.

Deachman proposed an Aylmer-Mud Lake service, which would be cool as well. We could add quite a few such Ottawa-Aylmer connections.
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For sure, a Canal water taxi service could do quite well with several important destinations. I think the Ottawa River water taxis are not well knowns and hard to reach, which impacts their usage. Whatever they are doing in Vancouver works, because everyone knows about them. We need to do the same here.

Richmond Landing is not a destination (but it may become with the new Heating Plant), but it's one of the few logical landing spots. Adding the River House should give it more visibility and an exciting destination that otherwise has few transportation options. Would love to see Victoria Island and Zibi (not sure if it's possible due to the currents) docks as well.

Deachman proposed an Aylmer-Mud Lake service, which would be cool as well. We could add quite a few such Ottawa-Aylmer connections.
Aylmer - Britannia Beach, perhaps? Mud Lake is already over-used.
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Aylmer - Britannia Beach, perhaps? Mud Lake is already over-used.
Aylmer to Britannia would be perfect.
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Who was really the first person to champion the Rideau Canal Skateway?

Former NCC chairman Douglas Fullerton typically gets all the credit. But three others, including a 19th-century editor of the Ottawa Citizen, were early advocates of building “the world’s longest outdoor ice rink.”

Author of the article:Randy Boswell
Published Feb 22, 2024 ‱ Last updated Feb 22, 2024 ‱ 7 minute read


As the fragility of Ottawa’s Rideau Canal skating attraction becomes more and more apparent in the age of climate change, there’s a growing appreciation for what the 7.8-kilometre ice rink has meant to the nation’s capital as a recreational amenity, tourist attraction and symbol of quintessential Canadianness.

Worries about the Skateway’s future have prompted much thoughtful reflection recently about its history, including its inauguration in January 1971. But the citizens of Ottawa had been skating on the canal for a good century before that.

“A large crowd of young people enjoyed themselves skating on the canal last evening,” the Citizen reported on Nov. 29, 1871, “amongst whom were noticed several young ladies who showed their ankles, their ajility (sic) and grace to perfection.”

Leering aside, the report confirms — 100 years before the official Skateway existed — the deep-rooted impulse in early Ottawa to make the ice-covered canal a winter playground. And many tragic drownings and dramatic rescues made the news throughout the late 19th and early 20th centuries as skaters routinely misjudged the risk of blading along the canal’s sometimes poorly frozen surface.

But when exactly did Ottawa’s urge to go skating on the canal solidify into a public proposal that local authorities should create a full-length skateway from Ottawa’s downtown core to Dow’s Lake or Hartwell Locks, where Col. John By’s boating channel splits off from the Rideau River?

According to the National Capital Commission, which oversees operation of the Skateway, that moment occurred just 53 years ago.

“The idea to turn the Rideau Canal into a skateway came from then-newly appointed NCC chair Doug Fullerton,” we are officially told by the NCC in its online “History of the Rideau Canal Skateway.” Fullerton, a federal economist who served as chairman of the NCC from 1969 to 1973, is rightly hailed as the man who not only championed the skateway concept in those years but who also had the position, power and funding to make it happen.

It wasn’t Fullerton’s idea

The birth of the skateway as we know it today is justifiably traced to Friday, Jan. 22, 1971, when Fullerton himself — captured in a famous front-page Citizen photo, which also illustrates the NCC’s skateway history page — laced up with about 100 others on the official opening day of skating along a section of the canal near the National Arts Centre and a thin strip of cleared ice to Dow’s Lake.

But it wasn’t Fullerton’s idea. There is a long paper trail — a newspaper trail to be exact — making it clear that the concept of a safely maintained skating surface along the canal had been seriously explored three times before the Fullerton-led NCC accomplished the feat.

First, there was A.C. (Alexander Colin) Campbell (1857-1943), a well-known Ottawa journalist and public servant, who floated plans for a Rideau Canal skating, skiing, snowshoeing and tobogganing mega-playground at a public meeting in 1913.

During an exceptionally good span of skating on the canal in February of that year, community-minded citizens led by Campbell held a winter-sports summit. They recommended that the Ottawa Improvement Commission — forerunner of the NCC — consider Campbell’s idea that “it might be feasible to convert the stretch of the Rideau Canal from the Chñteau Laurier to Hartwell’s Locks in the wintertime into a number of playgrounds for the children,” the Citizen reported. “One way of doing this would be by making a glare sheet of ice of the whole thing.”

Nothing came of the concept then. But in November 1918, the prominent Ottawa businessman and journalist Andrew Holland (1844-1923) — editor and co-owner of the Ottawa Citizen in the early 1870s — revived Campbell’s skateway push.

In a letter to the Citizen, Holland argued for “having the Rideau Canal, from the Dufferin Bridge to the locks at Hog’s Back, converted into a skating rink by leaving two feet of water in the stretch. Such a rink would be perfectly safe and thousands of citizens could enjoy open air skating without rink expenses.”

Holland signed the letter “Old Timer,” but Campbell was so thrilled at the show of support that he promptly identified Holland as his new skateway ally, writing in the Citizen that “there is no man in the city whose advocacy of a cause carries greater weight than his.”

Campbell then reiterated his case for “the use of the Rideau Canal as a straightaway skating course” to celebrate the recent end of the Great War; to bring healthy benefits to Ottawa’s youth; and to fulfil the OIC’s obligation to maintain the capital’s recreational attractiveness in winter as well as in summer.

“They tell me there are difficulties,” Campbell wrote. “That, of course, is true. The question is: Should the difficulties be allowed to stand in the way of an object so desirable?”

The Citizen was all in, too: “The canal is delightfully situated for the enjoyment of young people during the bracing winter months,” the newspaper opined on Dec. 3, 1918. “The return would be immediate, in an all-round improvement of health and brightening of the community. It can be done.”

Idea on ice for three decades

And yet it wasn’t. The OIC (remember, the predecessor of the NCC) remained unmoved on the cost question. And perhaps the ravages of the post-war Spanish flu — the last runaway global pandemic before this era’s COVID-19 crisis — killed the momentum for a skateway. So the idea was put on ice for another 30 years.

That’s when Chester (C.E.) Pickering (1881-1983), local business leader and elected member of the City of Ottawa’s powerful Board of Control, took up the cause. In January 1949, Pickering presented an ambitious proposal to transform the canal into “the world’s longest skating rink.” Sound familiar?

“We are neglecting one of the great natural attractions this city has,” Pickering declared. “It is a shame that this fine stretch of water should be forgotten. If it was kept clear of snow, and with a good surface, it would give Ottawa the longest out-of-doors skating rink in Canada.”

It had been less than a year since Ottawa’s own Barbara Ann Scott became the 1948 Olympic women’s figure-skating champion and the toast of the nation. Meanwhile, the Ottawa RCAF Flyers represented Canada in the Olympic hockey tournament, winning the country’s only other gold medal at the St. Moritz Games. Canada, in short, had emerged as a skating superpower — and Ottawa was now both the country’s political and sporting capital.

City politician Len Coulter was the chief challenger of Pickering’s skateway proposal. “We have enough rinks in the city now,” he insisted. “To me it sounds absurd 
 What will it cost the taxpayers of Ottawa?”

Pickering counter-punched with a flourish: “People would come from all over the world to see the largest outdoor rink in the universe.” It was a compelling pitch, and the city’s main local newspaper — as it had in 1918 — voiced support for the imagined skateway.

“Once again it is being seriously proposed to use the Rideau Canal as an open air skating rink, and this time the idea should not be dropped because of minor difficulties or objections,” the Citizen urged.

Discussions went on for months. Pickering was gently mocked in an Ottawa Journal cartoon in July 1949 — titled “A Midsummer Night’s Dream” — that showed him happily skating on the frozen canal under an illuminated downtown bridge.

The city investigated the proposal and began talks with the Federal District Commission (the former OIC and future NCC). But plans for a test rink on the canal ran up against liability concerns, then poor weather conditions.

Still, the idea percolated throughout the 1950s. In December 1958, city recreation director J. Alph Dulude oversaw the preparation of an experimental skateway on a patch of the canal between the Glebe and Old Ottawa East.

The ”trial scheme” lasted 20 days before heavy snowfall ruined skating conditions in early January 1959. City officials decided at the time that maintaining the historic waterway as a skating attraction wasn’t worth the cost or effort.

Even so, the skateway idea persisted in Ottawa politics. In the fall of 1970, city staff were directed to prepare another feasibility study. It concluded — just a month before the NCC inaugurated the Rideau Canal Skateway to great acclaim — that clearing the canal for wintertime skating would never be practical.

Yet again, the Citizen editorialized that a skateway would be possible if only the will to make it happen existed at Ottawa city hall. “The durable proposal to bring outdoor skating to the Rideau Canal is a great idea,” the Citizen insisted. “But let’s face it; it’s going nowhere.”

The political conditions — and, significantly, the weather conditions that winter — were perfect for Fullerton and the NCC to take hold of the skateway concept.

And the rest is history.

But the tale of the NCC’s skateway triumph has been the only backstory we’ve been telling ourselves ever since. In truth, the long and winding story of the Rideau Canal Skateway has a colourful prelude stretching far back in Ottawa’s past — and some earlier skateway dreamers we should also remember.

Randy Boswell is an Ottawa writer and Carleton University journalism professor.

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City politician Len Coulter was the chief challenger of Pickering’s skateway proposal. “We have enough rinks in the city now,” he insisted. “To me it sounds absurd 
 What will it cost the taxpayers of Ottawa?”
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Even so, the skateway idea persisted in Ottawa politics. In the fall of 1970, city staff were directed to prepare another feasibility study. It concluded — just a month before the NCC inaugurated the Rideau Canal Skateway to great acclaim — that clearing the canal for wintertime skating would never be practical.
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