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San Francisco, Oakland, San Jose not in top 25. I guess the economic diversity is low since poor can't afford to live there. But L.A. is expensive too and it is high on the list. San Diego and Long Beach made the list too, but not SF or Oakland. Odd.
Yeah it's laughable.

This is far more accurate and indicative of reality:
https://www.niche.com/places-to-live...iverse-cities/
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Another ranking based solely on racial diversity

https://www.city-data.com/top103.html
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Another ranking based solely on racial diversity

https://www.city-data.com/top103.html


Who made this stupendous list?

So interesting how the cities of Queens, NY and Bronx, NY are both in the Top 10!

With the cities of New York, NY and Brooklyn, NY in the Top 20!!

And the little old city of Manhattan, NY makes the Top 30!!
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Who made this stupendous list?

So interesting how the cities of Queens, NY and Bronx, NY are both in the Top 10!

With the cities of New York, NY and Brooklyn, NY in the Top 20!!

And the little old city of Manhattan, NY makes the Top 30!!
They report the entire city and then also the boroughs individually. What's wrong with that?
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They report the entire city and then also the boroughs individually. What's wrong with that?
Tough to do that in a ranked numerical list... and that's not what they did. New York is ranked 18th, Brooklyn 20th... kinda messes with all the numbers then, correct?

One could break up chunks of any city then, right?
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Tough to do that in a ranked numerical list...

One could break up chunks of any city then, right?
Sure, but this ranking does so with New York and that's alright too.
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Tough to do that in a ranked numerical list... and that's not what they did. New York is ranked 18th, Brooklyn 20th... kinda messes with all the numbers then, correct?

One could break up chunks of any city then, right?
Yeah, how come they didn't break out chicago's west ridge neighborhood, the city's most diverse?

The long and short of it is looking at this issue on a metro area basis is the only thing that would begin to make any sense.
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Sure, but this ranking does so with New York and that's alright too.
It just kinda makes it goofy to include the whole city in the same numerical ranking as all of its boroughs, which make up the whole.

At least remove New York as a whole from it.
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Yeah, how come they didn't break out chicago's west ridge neighborhood, the city's most diverse?

The long and short of it is looking at this issue on a metro area basis is the only thing that would begin to make any sense.
Right. Ranking widely disparately-sized municipalities together is just nonsense. Eastvale, California... a much more diverse place than NYC. I mean, come on. Let's be practical and deal in reality.
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It just kinda makes it goofy to include the whole city in the same numerical ranking as all of its boroughs, which make up the whole.

At least remove New York as a whole from it.
Except these boroughs have such a strong identity on their own and are home to millions of people on their own, somehow I dont think it's as big a deal as you are making it out to be. Call me crazy.
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Right. Ranking widely disparately-sized municipalities together is just nonsense. Eastvale, California... a much more diverse place than NYC. I mean, come on. Let's be practical and deal in reality.
Your reaction is what's impractical tbh.

This is based on diversity distribution of places with 50,000+ people. How closely to evenly distributed racial groups are in a geographic area. No need to be so dramatic.
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Except these boroughs have such a strong identity on their own and are home to millions of people on their own, somehow I dont think it's as big a deal as you are making it out to be. Call me crazy.
I don't think it's a big deal. I think it's a faulty list.

Identity should have nothing to do with it. NYC boroughs are not cities. If so, then why not break Chicago, LA, SF, etc. up into neighborhoods or wards or whatever?

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Your reaction is what's impractical tbh.

This is based on diversity distribution of places with 50,000+ people. How closely to evenly distributed racial groups are in a geographic area. No need to be so dramatic.
Geographic area is completely arbitrary when ranked list components are defined by widely-disparate municipal boundaries... particularly when the bar is set as low as 50k pop.

With this type of comparison, you get a city of Eastvale, CA with a total population of 57,000 ranking significantly higher than NYC, which likely has 57,000 citizens who identify as Norweigan-Kenyan-Cherokee (non-Hispanic).
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Geographic area is completely arbitrary when ranked list components are defined by widely-disparate municipal boundaries... particularly when the bar is set as low as 50k pop.
Not really, 50,000 is a perfectly reasonable parameter if we're talking about a place to live and interact with neighbors. We can skim through the list and pick out large cities and compare them to each other if that makes us feel better, it's not difficult.
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I'm just talking about the hard numbers, not the soft living and interacting part of it.

As Steely said above, the only sensible way to look at a ranked system in this case is to consider it on a metro area basis.
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