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Old Posted Nov 23, 2018, 2:46 PM
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What Wrigleyville needs more than anything is wider sidewalks....
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What Wrigleyville needs more than anything is wider sidewalks....
Were I the dictator of Chicago I'd close Clark to private traffic between Newport and Waveland on game days. Busses and bikes only, let pedestrians overflow into parking lanes.
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Right. I get it. But a climbing gym?
I love climbing gyms. Makes working out not such a bore!
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At least it's not some fucking stupid-ass suburban style taco hell shit-box with a goddamn drive-thru sitting in a mother fucking parking lot in the middle of an urban neighborhood.

I'm a form guy. I don't care what they put in the new building as long as it isn't a stupid car-oriented suburban style development inappropriately shoe-horned into what should otherwise be a proper urban environment.

I won't personally ever use the climbing gym, but from an urban form perspective, the replacement building is ~8 billion times better. And form is ultimately what matters because uses come and go all the time.
........ok, now let's not sugar coat things too much !
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Old Posted Nov 24, 2018, 2:44 PM
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Old Posted Nov 24, 2018, 4:18 PM
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Oh this is soooooo awful, whatever shall we do??? What a disgrace that the Taco Bell drive thru is being replaced by a properly planned 3 story building. Wrigleyville is truly done for now, no wonder we didn't get HQ2!
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Old Posted Nov 24, 2018, 5:55 PM
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^The design has become a little less interesting since that rendering, but still overall way better than the Taco Bell. Also, the climbing gym is mainly on the second and third floors; the first floor has other retail (no named tenants as far as I know). So maybe you will get your fast food chains after all.
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Yeah but will it have a drive thru? If no drive thru how can we call Chicago a world class A+ alpha Master race of cities city?
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Old Posted Nov 25, 2018, 5:26 PM
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That climbing gym doesn't look like its tall enough to have anything worth climbing inside.
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Old Posted Nov 25, 2018, 8:28 PM
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Any progress on the annex? Last I saw, they torn down that captain restaurant.
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Old Posted Nov 25, 2018, 10:31 PM
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Any progress on the annex? Last I saw, they torn down that captain restaurant.
Yup. Just had brunch at Dutch and Doc's this morning and walking back east there is a good bit of activity on site. Hard to tell exactly what because the construction fences and tarps hide it but they were going full on.

And just a side note, my friends and I were remarking how the exact location where we were having a lovely, fancy pants brunch was a suburban McDonald's parking lot across from a donut shack and a car wash just a few years back. Nobody misses that shit. Nobody.
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^^^ I thought for sure you would have been having a conversation about how the neighborhood has gone to shit....
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New Wrigleyville Taco Bell at Belmont and Clark beside the El is open (Wrigley Report)
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^ and that's how it should be.

force the retail establishment to fit the built environment; not force the built environment to fit the (horribly misguided) retail establishment.
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100%. Why is Clark Street so narrow?
Because Clark St is very small, but there's no room. You can't go through. You have to find someplace else.

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That climbing gym doesn't look like its tall enough to have anything worth climbing inside.
Yeah, they doesn't need a height restrictions. If they allowed to build more.
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New Wrigleyville Taco Bell at Belmont and Clark beside the El is open (Wrigley Report)
I didn't know about that one. I am all in favor. This building is ok too. I just don't like that 'REI' architecture leave it for Clybourn Corredor. Someday climbing gyms will fall out of trend and then we are stuck with what they built. It should instead be high unit density apartments, office or mixed use with retail on the ground floor and seperate entrances off the sidewalk for each business. To me that's the better build form.

And some legitemate affordable services like fast food and discount stores never hurts the urbanity of a city IMHO.
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^^^ Amenities are why people live in cities, we generally have a retail vacancy problem, better a Taco Bell than nothing. Other, more interesting, non chain businesses will find another area to locate if they run out of space here because Taco Bell took it...
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Old Posted Dec 21, 2018, 2:10 AM
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Thanks for those shots.

It has been such a treat to watch the neighborhood transform over the past couple of years.

Friends and I went to brunch at Dutch and Doc's a couple of weeks back and we just kept remarking how we were having fancy brunch in a beautiful gastropub with a cool af vibe and a postcard view of the marquee in what was a dreary suburban McDonald's parking lot for far too many years.

I get off the L at night now and think about going west for a quick beer instead of just beating it straight home.
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