Saskatoon Construction III - Page 157

prairieguy · #**3121** Posted **Dec 11, 2020, 3:11 PM**

Based on renderings, I would welcome both to my hood!!

Sask.ks · #**3122** Posted **Dec 11, 2020, 4:44 PM**

Wow, Main Street might be getting quite the makeover. I’m hoping these get rezoned without any issues!

Ricopedra · #**3123** Posted **Dec 12, 2020, 6:15 PM**

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roryn1 · #**3124** Posted **Dec 17, 2020, 8:41 PM**

From Instagram - I love transitionary photos that highlight modern to century old. This reminds me of that photo of Macau that shows a modern casino Hotel above an older residential area.

prairieguy · #**3125** Posted **Dec 17, 2020, 8:46 PM**

cool pic! I think our 'heritage' buildings in downtown core add a lot of character to our city!
Thanks for posting

asdfgh · #**3126** Posted **Dec 17, 2020, 9:35 PM**

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Thanks for posting. Here's an image from that page:

I just realized the online open house for this is tonight at 7:00. Glad I had made a note of it. I'm interested to hear what the city has to say about it and how people react.

If anyone is thinking of attending, info on the open house is here - https://www.saskatoon.ca/engage/512-520-main-street

Sask.ks · #**3127** Posted **Dec 18, 2020, 8:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by asdfgh

I just realized the online open house for this is tonight at 7:00. Glad I had made a note of it. I'm interested to hear what the city has to say about it and how people react.

If anyone is thinking of attending, info on the open house is here - https://www.saskatoon.ca/engage/512-520-main-street

How was the open house? Do you know who the developer behind this is? Just curious.

LittleBoy · #**3128** Posted **Dec 19, 2020, 6:52 PM**

Any idea of when the final decision will be made for the Knox Tower? Not super familiar with how this process works

alt_center · #**3129** Posted **Dec 20, 2020, 3:38 PM**

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Any idea of when the final decision will be made for the Knox Tower? Not super familiar with how this process works

This is my take on things... I could be wrong. The development appeals board just rejected Meridian's appeal to allow deficiencies. These include things like balconies that slightly protrude over the allowable setback, lack of street level transparency on 24th St. (which is essentially just an entry into the parkade), and insufficient setback along the west side (back) of the property. There could be others.

One of the reasons for the Appeals board denial is that "the property in question does not exist (legally)."

Now, the city appears to be progressing with actually subdividing the lot as in the proposal. There is a public hearing on this in January. Also, the city passed a motion to "engage with the Municipal Heritage Advisory Committee about their concerns and about their role in these types of decisions."

My speculation is that actually subdividing the lot might "reset" the approval (and appeal) process, as if it were basically a brand new project.

Forcing developers to jump through these hoops (and incur additional speculative expense) is crazy. In this case the developer was just trying to get their ducks in a row and ensure they could actually build the project before proceeding with subdividing (and buying?) the lot. But in this case it seems they must proceed with subdividing (and buying?) the lot just to determine if they can actually build what they need to make the project viable.

Ricopedra · #**3130** Posted **Dec 20, 2020, 4:50 PM**

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prairieguy · #**3131** Posted **Dec 20, 2020, 6:10 PM**

I think a good powerwash on Sturdy Stone could make a world of difference. It just looks like a bunch of pigeon SHiTE on the building (whether that IS what it is or not).

Not sure a green space would be any better utilized and likely cost more to maintain, but maybe there would be more people having their lunch and coffee in a nice "park" setting??

roryn1 · #**3132** Posted **Dec 23, 2020, 3:10 AM**

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I think a good powerwash on Sturdy Stone could make a world of difference. It just looks like a bunch of pigeon SHiTE on the building (whether that IS what it is or not).

Not sure a green space would be any better utilized and likely cost more to maintain, but maybe there would be more people having their lunch and coffee in a nice "park" setting??

I swear I remember them trying a few years ago. New York has a building just like it that is gorgeous

Crisis · #**3133** Posted **Dec 23, 2020, 10:36 PM**

I wonder what finish was used on the NY building? I was here for years before I realized that it was tyndall stone on Sturdy Stone. I always thought it was stucco. Big flat sawn slabs is not a great use of tyndall stone in my opinion, especially as it discolours with age.

roryn1 · #**3134** Posted **Dec 24, 2020, 6:03 AM**

I can’t recall... but I feel like if they maintained the building it wouldn’t have been so hard to clean up. Sask Party has been brutal with government building maintenance. I visit a lot of our gov buildings and the ones here in Saskatoon are by far some of the worst maintained in North America.., maybe the world? It’s crazy how bare bones our provincial gov is... their goal is to be as hands off as possible to the point of disrepair for buildings and social services downtown. It’s dispicable. I’d never work for the gov here when MB and AB have nicer serviced buildings and wages. This isn’t a political statement - like MB and AB hasn’t not maintained their buildings as bad as SK. If you think the outside is bad you should see the inside. I really feel bad for those employees. You wouldn’t believe our province is an “agriculture focused” province by the looks of the ministry of agriculture office north of town.

Ricopedra · #**3135** Posted **Dec 25, 2020, 7:56 PM**

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Prairiedawg · #**3136** Posted **Dec 31, 2020, 12:37 AM**

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Originally Posted by alt_center

This is my take on things... I could be wrong. The development appeals board just rejected Meridian's appeal to allow deficiencies. These include things like balconies that slightly protrude over the allowable setback, lack of street level transparency on 24th St. (which is essentially just an entry into the parkade), and insufficient setback along the west side (back) of the property. There could be others.

One of the reasons for the Appeals board denial is that "the property in question does not exist (legally)."

Now, the city appears to be progressing with actually subdividing the lot as in the proposal. There is a public hearing on this in January. Also, the city passed a motion to "engage with the Municipal Heritage Advisory Committee about their concerns and about their role in these types of decisions."

My speculation is that actually subdividing the lot might "reset" the approval (and appeal) process, as if it were basically a brand new project.

Forcing developers to jump through these hoops (and incur additional speculative expense) is crazy. In this case the developer was just trying to get their ducks in a row and ensure they could actually build the project before proceeding with subdividing (and buying?) the lot. But in this case it seems they must proceed with subdividing (and buying?) the lot just to determine if they can actually build what they need to make the project viable.

Just stumbled upon your discussion of this Saskatoon residential development sponsored by a church and immediately thought of "The Butterfly" project being constructed in Vancouver.
I hope Saskatoon can come to terms with it's dilemma of wanting to start building high-rises in the city and being able to reason with heritage or anti-development groups.

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/the-...ouver-westbank

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excavated for the development of Westbank’s The Butterfly,
a mixed-use redevelopment that incorporates the adjacent historic First Baptist Church at the northwest corner of the intersection of Burrard Street and Nelson Street.

The developer partnered with the church on this project, which is being built on the church’s former ground-level parking lot and two lots that previously held older residential structures up to three storeys.

The redevelopment’s main component is the 556-ft-tall, 57-storey luxury residential tower, taking on a form that takes inspiration from church pipe organs.

roryn1 · #**3137** Posted **Dec 31, 2020, 1:33 AM**

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Don't forget, the Sturdy Stone is basically a glorified parking lot with a few offices wedged under and above. And who cares, as long as you can park? Some people.

yaaa but I hope one day the parkade floors are retrofitted into more office space

roryn1 · #**3138** Posted **Dec 31, 2020, 1:34 AM**

Thanks for checking us out and providing the great description of Vancouver’s project prairiedawg! That project is definitely what gave this one its inspiration!

prairieguy · #**3139** Posted **Dec 31, 2020, 7:52 PM**

The scope and scale is obviously much larger in the Vancouver project, but it is striking how similar the location, design and proximity to church it is to the Saskatoon "little brother" project.

roryn1 · #**3140** Posted **Jan 6, 2021, 5:49 AM**

Anyone know when the arena is going to be announced? Long overdue!