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azliam · #**17081** Posted **May 22, 2020, 7:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by CrestedSaguaro

Aspirant is going for a downtown height zoning increase for Astra from 525' to 540'. This means increased height on the building is possible (it was originally 532.9' to the penthouse I believe). Zoning hearing is scheduled for June 8th.

Hmmm...I thought they were already looking at 541' feet (was that to the penthouse or some sort of crown)? That's what the FAA Circularization study stated. So are we looking higher than that?

ASN Structure Name AGL/AMSL Lattitude/Longitude
2020-AWP-406-OE ASTRA NW 541/1625 33-27-13.60N/112-04-34.60W
2020-AWP-407-OE ASTRA NE 541/1625 33-27-13.70N/112-04-32.90W
2020-AWP-408-OE ASTRA SW 541/1625 33-27-12.90N/112-04-34.70W
2020-AWP-409-OE ASTRA SE 541/1625 33-27-12.90N/112-04-32.90W

https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/WebBlobServlet

CrestedSaguaro · #**17082** Posted **May 22, 2020, 8:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by azliam

Hmmm...I thought they were already looking at 541' feet (was that to the penthouse or some sort of crown)? That's what the FAA Circularization study stated. So are we looking higher than that?

ASN Structure Name AGL/AMSL Lattitude/Longitude
2020-AWP-406-OE ASTRA NW 541/1625 33-27-13.60N/112-04-34.60W
2020-AWP-407-OE ASTRA NE 541/1625 33-27-13.70N/112-04-32.90W
2020-AWP-408-OE ASTRA SW 541/1625 33-27-12.90N/112-04-34.70W
2020-AWP-409-OE ASTRA SE 541/1625 33-27-12.90N/112-04-32.90W

https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/WebBlobServlet

The records request I received showed the total height as 532' 9'" (525' to the roof, 532' 9" to the top of the elevator shaft). They may have upped the height 541' to the FAA, but since the lot is zoned for 525' by the city, my guess is that is why it was rejected by the FAA.

I may put in another records request to see if anything has changed with specs/design of Astra, but I see no reason at all why the city would not approve another 15'. Then again, it's Phoenix.

Edit: Also, there is a zoning sign (ZA-205-20-7) to reduce the sidewalk minimum width to 7' at 111 North 3rd St. in front of the convention center. Anyone know that they have planned there? Currently it's about a 20' or so feet in width.

Another Edit: Went back and looked at my records request and it does indeed look like the roof is listed at 532' 9" and the mechanical screening on the roof would take it to about 541'...give or take. Hey...I can't remember EVERYTHING I post on here!

Wildcats · #**17083** Posted **May 23, 2020, 3:20 AM**

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Originally Posted by ChaseM

Good shots from ABC 15 chopper today over and around Downtown, can see a lot of the projects currently under construction!

https://www.facebook.com/ABC15/videos/553381118907165/

That is a great video ...enjoy watching it - thanks!

CrestedSaguaro · #**17084** Posted **May 24, 2020, 3:07 PM**

X's taller crane getting raised this weekend. They are raising it to about 400'. I'm not sure why it needs to be so tall for a building that is only 269', but I don't build these things. Not sure if they are raising the other crane, but I don't seen any work on it or any more sections on the ground.

phoenixwillrise · #**17085** Posted **May 25, 2020, 2:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by Wildcats

That is a great video ...enjoy watching it - thanks!

Sorry if someone noted this earlier on the other thread but if they did I did not see it. I would put this post under AZ Center Renovation except that is more pertinent to this helicopter video. I noticed in the video that the grass at the area of where Palm Court is dormat (dead) so they did not over seed with summer grass like the usually do. That is a possible tell, as they would say in poker, which might indicate they plan on starting construction sometime this summer or early fall. Time will tell!

BA744PHX · #**17086** Posted **May 25, 2020, 3:38 PM**

Hey Everyone,

I was bored over the last few weeks and decided to create a file to track all existing, under construction and planned projects for downtown. Let me know your thoughts.

Not all information is accurate/update to date, I originally took details from emporis however their website is not the best source.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

In addition, I've noted the developer, architect and proposed height from CrestedSaguaro googledrive postings

exit2lef · #**17087** Posted **May 25, 2020, 4:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by BA744PHX

Hey Everyone,

I was bored over the last few weeks and decided to create a file to track all existing, under construction and planned projects for downtown. Let me know your thoughts.

Not all information is accurate/update to date, I originally took details from emporis however their website is not the best source.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

Thanks. This is helpful. Quick question: In column D, what is the distinction between "skyscraper" and "high rise building"?

BA744PHX · #**17088** Posted **May 25, 2020, 5:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by exit2lef

Thanks. This is helpful. Quick question: In column D, what is the distinction between "skyscraper" and "high rise building"?

I went by emporis.com,
326+ sky-scrapper
325-111 high-rise
110- and below, low-rise

I am in the process of adding Developer and Architect to the sheet

exit2lef · #**17089** Posted **May 25, 2020, 5:13 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by BA744PHX

I went by emporis.com,
326+ sky-scrapper
325-111 high-rise
110- and below, low-rise

I am in the process of adding Developer and Architect to the sheet

That helps. I was trying to make the distinction based on floors and confusing myself in the process. Making the distinction in terms of feet is clear and accounts for spires and other features that increase height regardless of the number of stories in a building.

azliam · #**17090** Posted **May 25, 2020, 5:34 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by BA744PHX

I went by emporis.com,
326+ sky-scrapper
325-111 high-rise
110- and below, low-rise

I am in the process of adding Developer and Architect to the sheet

Question. What is the Legacy Tower?

BA744PHX · #**17091** Posted **May 25, 2020, 5:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by azliam

Question. What is the Legacy Tower?

That is the Regency Parking Garage, Hines proposal, I am making an additional section for comments

azliam · #**17092** Posted **May 25, 2020, 5:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by BA744PHX

That is the Regency Parking Garage, Hines proposal, I am making an additional section for comments

Gotcha, thanks.

ASU Diablo · #**17093** Posted **May 26, 2020, 4:01 PM**

I believe the site was listed for sale back in June. I came across a comment on Reddit where past/present pics were posted and the following was said: "I was at the historic preservation office and they winked winked that there were special things happening. They couldn't say what but it was on their radar!"

Has anyone heard something similar?

https://www.reddit.com/r/phoenix/com...1920s_and_now/

PHXFlyer11 · #**17094** Posted **May 26, 2020, 5:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by ASU Diablo

I believe the site was listed for sale back in June. I came across a comment on Reddit where past/present pics were posted and the following was said: "I was at the historic preservation office and they winked winked that there were special things happening. They couldn't say what but it was on their radar!"

Has anyone heard something similar?

https://www.reddit.com/r/phoenix/com...1920s_and_now/

This is really a tough one for me. If we ever get commuter rail i'd like to see this restored as a station. It's a bit far though from the light rail to be a perfect transfer point between Central Ave. new south phoenix route and commuter rail.

I would maybe like to see smaller shops (DeSoto-esq) or brewery. But I'm OK with this sitting vacant for another 10 years until the area can properly support it. I think its tough right now to have anything sustained there yet.

biggus diggus · #**17095** Posted **May 26, 2020, 5:09 PM**

Something like Maynard's Market & Kitchen in Tucson would be great.

CrestedSaguaro · #**17096** Posted **May 26, 2020, 5:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by phoenixwillrise

Sorry if someone noted this earlier on the other thread but if they did I did not see it. I would put this post under AZ Center Renovation except that is more pertinent to this helicopter video. I noticed in the video that the grass at the area of where Palm Court is dormat (dead) so they did not over seed with summer grass like the usually do. That is a possible tell, as they would say in poker, which might indicate they plan on starting construction sometime this summer or early fall. Time will tell!

The grass has not been watered or seeded since November. The only reason it lasted as long as it did was due to a wet winter. But they have been letting it die off or quite some time now.

Classical in Phoenix · #**17097** Posted **May 26, 2020, 8:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by BA744PHX

Hey Everyone,

I was bored over the last few weeks and decided to create a file to track all existing, under construction and planned projects for downtown. Let me know your thoughts.

Not all information is accurate/update to date, I originally took details from emporis however their website is not the best source.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

In addition, I've noted the developer, architect and proposed height from CrestedSaguaro googledrive postings

You have just provided me with hours of entertainment, thanks!

Code5 · #**17098** Posted **May 26, 2020, 8:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by PHXFlyer11

This is really a tough one for me. If we ever get commuter rail i'd like to see this restored as a station. It's a bit far though from the light rail to be a perfect transfer point between Central Ave. new south phoenix route and commuter rail.

I would absolutely love a west line commuter rail all the way out to Buckeye. Much like how Chicago has their own metro rail system out to the south suburbs, Phoenix really needs to get in on that action.

BA744PHX · #**17099** Posted **May 26, 2020, 10:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by Classical in Phoenix

You have just provided me with hours of entertainment, thanks!

LOL no problem, I am putting together a Tempe tab, however I haven't followed to much and missing information

Sunsfan87 · #**17100** Posted **May 28, 2020, 12:59 AM**

A little more detail about One Camelback: https://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...-Living-Uptown