PHILADELPHIA | Highrise Development Thread X

[Plokoon11]

685! That is tall!

[3rd&Brown]

Originally Posted by summersm343

CDR Submissions are up for February!

Most exciting project is Cathedral Place, the development around the Basilica. Looks like it's going to be a great project, and include a Phase One 245' tower, and a Phase Two 685' tower.

https://www.phila.gov/media/20200122...08616698.1.pdf

1000% less dramatic than the initial renders.

Honestly, garbage. I'd happy to shelve it to the next cycle.

Philadelphia and this location in particular deserve better than that.

[hammersklavier]

Originally Posted by iheartphilly

Boom, off goes the dynamite! Speculative development....in a hot market...

Development team breaks ground on $280M speculative project at uCity Square

https://www.bizjournals.com/philadel..._news_headline

Well that's certainly unexpected. I would've thought they'd try to land a lead tenant first. It also seems to suggest the two Market Street sites (3400 and 3800) remain on the back burner.

Originally Posted by summersm343

CDR Submissions are up for February!

Most exciting project is Cathedral Place, the development around the Basilica. Looks like it's going to be a great project, and include a Phase One 245' tower, and a Phase Two 685' tower.

https://www.phila.gov/media/20200122...08616698.1.pdf

This is pretty impressive, all things considered. I was dubious from the beginning that the Archdiocese office building would come down (isn't the whole point of this endeavor to maximize their income from the property? In which case demolition of a perfectly serviceable extant office building and concomitant relocation of the offices it holds elsewhere, and the expense that incurs, runs contrary with this plan's ultimate goals).

I'm not really sold on the building's site orientation -- the apartment lobby will be facing the cathedral's back wall, and the apartment building's backside sits along 17th across the street from the Definitely-Not-A-Sheraton (TM) and next to the Archdiocese offices -- and I'm also dubious that the extensive landscaping they have planned is quite sufficient to make up for it. But that's my only real quibble with what's been presented here.

Also the site maps made me appreciate just how big the lawn next to the cathedral at 18th and Race is. I hope that doing something with that comes into the picture once Phase 2 comes to fruition.

[DudeGuy]

Originally Posted by summersm343

CDR Submissions are up for February!

Most exciting project is Cathedral Place, the development around the Basilica. Looks like it's going to be a great project, and include a Phase One 245' tower, and a Phase Two 685' tower.

https://www.phila.gov/media/20200122...08616698.1.pdf

Here are some screenshots of phase one:

[iamrobk]

As much as I'd love it, I'd be shocked if we ever saw a 600'+ building at that site. I can see phase 2 being downsized to something similar in height to The Alexander. But we'll see!

[iamrobk]

Forgot to post this earlier, but a friend of mine has a place in the Murano and I was there this past weekend. Beautiful views! Put them in spoilers due to size.

[ScreamShatter]

Originally Posted by iamrobk

As much as I'd love it, I'd be shocked if we ever saw a 600'+ building at that site. I can see phase 2 being downsized to something similar in height to The Alexander. But we'll see!

You are probably right. The site could support a taller building, but it’s still good density either way.

[thoughtcriminal]

Hi all-
long time lurker. I've followed this project for a while, and am liking the proposal.
Anyone know if the same architect is designing both phases?

[mcgrath618]

Originally Posted by ScreamShatter

You are probably right. The site could support a taller building, but it’s still good density either way.

I actually think it'll be built to 685'. The height for the proposal has always stuck to about that same height, so it seems to me that the developers have had a very good idea about what they wanted from this site for awhile now.

[ScreamShatter]

Originally Posted by mcgrath618

I actually think it'll be built to 685'. The height for the proposal has always stuck to about that same height, so it seems to me that the developers have had a very good idea about what they wanted from this site for awhile now.

That’d be visually transformative to that area. I hope you are right!! 🤞

[PurpleWhiteOut]

CHOP's next research building is slated to be 19 floors (just two less than the Robert's Center) with 470,000 square feet of space. It's scheduled to open in 2024. The preliminary render looks like they want to go with a similar design to Robert's?

[iheartphilly]

Originally Posted by PurpleWhiteOut

CHOP's next research building is slated to be 19 floors (just two less than the Robert's Center) with 470,000 square feet of space. It's scheduled to open in 2024. The preliminary render looks like they want to go with a similar design to Robert's?

Can you share the prelim renders? Where exactly? Don't remember seeing in on any recent CDR.

[Urbanthusiat]

Originally Posted by PurpleWhiteOut

CHOP's next research building is slated to be 19 floors (just two less than the Robert's Center) with 470,000 square feet of space. It's scheduled to open in 2024. The preliminary render looks like they want to go with a similar design to Robert's?

Interesting. I suppose you have inside info?

[PurpleWhiteOut]

Originally Posted by iheartphilly

Can you share the prelim renders? Where exactly? Don't remember seeing in on any recent CDR.

Sorry, I was referring to the early mock-up image.
And yes, there was an internal email confirming the numbers/date. They also state that this phase will include green space as well as part of their community agreement with the neighborhood. The rest of the email just talks about the lab space including both wet and dry labs for collaboration.

[PurpleWhiteOut]

[delete. Accidentally double posted]

[iheartphilly]

Originally Posted by PurpleWhiteOut

Sorry, I was referring to the early mock-up image.
And yes, there was an internal email confirming the numbers/date. They also state that this phase will include green space as well as part of their community agreement with the neighborhood. The rest of the email just talks about the lab space including both wet and dry labs for collaboration.

[mcgrath618]

730 Schuylkill Avenue (temp. title)
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...04#post8813304

[3rd&Brown]

Originally Posted by PurpleWhiteOut

Sorry, I was referring to the early mock-up image.
And yes, there was an internal email confirming the numbers/date. They also state that this phase will include green space as well as part of their community agreement with the neighborhood. The rest of the email just talks about the lab space including both wet and dry labs for collaboration.

So it looks like,

1. This
2. Morgan Lewis Building
3. One Ucity Square
4. Jefferson Building @ 11th and Chestnut
5. Schuykill Yards Phase I

Will all be under construction at about the same time? That's a lot of commercial development.

Hopefully we can get the rumored Chubb Building and 1301 Market off the ground at the same time.

[mcgrath618]

Originally Posted by 3rd&Brown

So it looks like,

1. This
2. Morgan Lewis Building
3. One Ucity Square
4. Jefferson Building @ 11th and Chestnut
5. Schuykill Yards Phase II

Will all be under construction at about the same time? That's a lot of commercial development.

Hopefully we can get the rumored Chubb Building and 1301 Market off the ground at the same time.

FTFY

[bigfish]

Originally Posted by 3rd&Brown

So it looks like,


5. Schuykill Yards Phase I

I will believe this when either we hear a tenant or shovels go in the ground. Also any update with the mural building at Broad and Spring Garden, I thought that was supposed to break ground all the way back in July.