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Old Posted Sep 29, 2020, 11:42 PM
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I didn't know they were permanently closed. I have been checking in with Yimby on a daily basis. Good format and informative.
Agree, I've been doing the same. Frankly, I think it's already better than Curbed.
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Old Posted Sep 30, 2020, 3:25 AM
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^ Wow, I just visited that site for the first time now.

I’m speechless. It’s literally porn as far as I’m concerned. I will definitely be visiting that site regularly, and kudos to the guy who runs it.

Agreed about Curbed. I think Curbed had some good people but ultimately failed from the top. They chose a really lousy editor, she didn’t seem interested whatsoever in real estate
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What I like about YIMBY is that they are reporting some of the smaller things that Curbed would not. I have given Curbed some pretty big tips over the years and some of the more recent ones (in 2019) I was shocked to find some were not even written about. Like the fact that Chinatown is having a major geographical expansion with an Asian mall the size of a famous one in Toronto, new hotels, new residential, etc in a largely passed over area. A lot of new economic activity.. Maybe I'm wrong but thats pretty newsworthy.

YIMBY also seem interested in real, constructive feedback which shows a level of maturity. On another thread we were writing about iy and their editors were actually listening to what we had.to say.
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^ Wow, I just visited that site for the first time now.

I’m speechless. It’s literally porn as far as I’m concerned. I will definitely be visiting that site regularly, and kudos to the guy who runs it.

Agreed about Curbed. I think Curbed had some good people but ultimately failed from the top. They chose a really lousy editor, she didn’t seem interested whatsoever in real estate
It became just another Chicago culture site once she came on board. Too many posts about the weather, things to do, how to survive winter, etc.

I'm sure readership dropped, there are better places to get that kind of content if its what you're after.

I sort of wrote YIMBY off once they came onto the scene back in May (or around then) and wrote an article without fact checking, and didn't take it down or update it even after the architect/developer reached out to them and said it was false. I figured it was some hobbyist blogger without any interest in actual reporting. Maybe I was wrong?
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September 22, 2020

City Selects Five Finalists to Compete for Loop Redevelopment Project
The City of Chicago and its partners at C40 Cities have selected five local development teams as finalists to purchase and redevelop City-owned land at Van Buren Street and Plymouth Court in the Loop, Mayor Lori E. Lightfoot announced today.

The five groups, selected in response to a Request for Qualifications (RFQ) issued earlier this year in conjunction with the international C40 Reinventing Cities competition, are being exclusively invited to submit mixed-use redevelopment proposals for the 16,000-square-foot location. The winner will be chosen through a formal Request for Proposals (RFP) process that launches today and concludes this fall.

The five finalists include:

Common Good Collaborative
Developer: Lendlease and KMA Co.
Architect: Valerio Dewalt Train and Association and Latent Design
Environmental Consultant: dbHMS

The Community Builders/Studio Gang
Developer: The Community Builders
Architect: Studio Gang, DesignBridge and JAQ Corp.
Environmental Consultant: dbHMS

EcoVibe
Developer: DL3 Realty and CityPads
Architect: Perkins + Will and Brook Architecture
Environmental Consultant: dbHMS

Team Unity
Developer: Keith Giles, Mercy Housing, and Chicago TREND Corporation
Architect: Fitzgerald Architects
Environmental Consultant: Transsolar Inc.

Turnstone Development
Developer: Turnstone Development and Lightengale Group
Architect: MKB Architects and Mir Collective
Environmental Consultant: dbHMS

“Each of these teams represent extensive design and build expertise,” Department of Planning and Development First Deputy Commissioner Eleanor Gorski said. “We expect them each to submit creative proposals that maximize this unique opportunity to support economic development, affordable housing, open space and sustainability in the heart of the Loop.”

Thirteen teams responded to the City’s RFQ. The finalist selection committee included representatives from the Chicago Loop Alliance, the Near South Planning Board, South Loop Advisory Committee, the Chicago Park District, Chicago Public Libraries, and Chicago Transit Authority.

The L-shaped site consists of vacant land, a vacant commercial building and a vacant parking garage that are adjacent to the Harold Washington Library Center, the State Street retail corridor and multiple rapid transit lines.

Redevelopment proposals must leverage the site’s location with a viable mix of uses, including improvements that enhance the adjacent Pritzker Park as public open space, among other requirements, according to the RFP. Review criteria will include the completeness of each submission, purchase price, quality of the development plan, appropriateness of the proposed uses relative to the surrounding community, site plan and design concepts, and the experience and financial capacity of the development team, among other considerations.

C40 is a global network of the world’s megacities committed to addressing climate change. Chicago’s participation in C40’s 2019 Reinventing Cities competition resulted in the selection of Garfield Green, an environmentally sustainable, mixed-income project at Fifth and Kedzie avenues in East Garfield Park.

“The 2020 Chicago finalists have developed rigorous methodologies to strive for zero-carbon objectives and I am excited to see how they will develop their proposals in the final stage,” C40 Cities Regional Director Laura Jay said. “More than ever, many cities, businesses and individuals are committed to progress and leading the effort to create a more sustainable and inclusive world.”

The winning redevelopment project for this year’s competition is expected to be announced by Mayor Lightfoot in early 2021. For more information, visit www.chicago.gov/c40.
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Old Posted Oct 1, 2020, 2:21 AM
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A very well timed development in Douglas. Labor must be readily available.
And the location is good.
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A very well timed development in Douglas. Labor must be readily available.
And the location is good.
According to Yimby
Here's my post from September 11 on this

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A 4 story residential building (mix of affordable and market rate) with ground floor commercial/retail was issued a new construction permit for 508 E Pershing (a little east of Martin Luther King Jr Dr). Total of 53 units. Lot is currently vacant - right near Oakwood Shores and the not-too-old Mariano's grocery store.


Source: https://www.niaarch.com/project/508-pershing/
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What I like about YIMBY is that they are reporting some of the smaller things that Curbed would not. I have given Curbed some pretty big tips over the years and some of the more recent ones (in 2019) I was shocked to find some were not even written about. Like the fact that Chinatown is having a major geographical expansion with an Asian mall the size of a famous one in Toronto, new hotels, new residential, etc in a largely passed over area. A lot of new economic activity.. Maybe I'm wrong but thats pretty newsworthy.
Similar thing is happening over here in Philly's Chinatown, except much of the "new money" from incoming residents and businesses have taken over the old hangout spots that were closed down. Although these aren't big newsworthy projects, they have contributed to Chinatown becoming more focused for younger residents

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What I like about YIMBY is that they are reporting some of the smaller things that Curbed would not. I have given Curbed some pretty big tips over the years and some of the more recent ones (in 2019) I was shocked to find some were not even written about. Like the fact that Chinatown is having a major geographical expansion with an Asian mall the size of a famous one in Toronto, new hotels, new residential, etc in a largely passed over area. A lot of new economic activity.. Maybe I'm wrong but thats pretty newsworthy.

YIMBY also seem interested in real, constructive feedback which shows a level of maturity. On another thread we were writing about iy and their editors were actually listening to what we had.to say.
Marothisu- youre reporting on the Asian influx and the expansion has been illuminating for me - so bravo.

Yes Yimby seems to capture a broad range of development on a daily basis and includes complete renderings and locations. And they def are checking in on SSP which is good.
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Similar thing is happening over here in Philly's Chinatown, except much of the "new money" from incoming residents and businesses have taken over the old hangout spots that were closed down. Although these aren't big newsworthy projects, they have contributed to Chinatown becoming more focused for younger residents
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Marothisu- youre reporting on the Asian influx and the expansion has been illuminating for me - so bravo.

Yes Yimby seems to capture a broad range of development on a daily basis and includes complete renderings and locations. And they def are checking in on SSP which is good.
I'm not surprised by Philadelphia either with this. In terms of change of China born population in cities between 2011 and 2019, Philadelphia is 6th. Chicago is 2nd highest (NYC #1). However for 2018 to 2019, Philadelphia is 3rd while Chicago is 4th.

Also, Chicago has the 2nd highest born in Japan population from 2011 to 2019 (San Diego #1). Philadelphia has the highest increase of Korean born in that same time period.
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Anyone up for another "what does a building need to be considered historical" debate?

https://blockclubchicago.org/2020/10...derman-fuming/

Neighbors Fuming After Historic Old Town Stable Loses Landmark Status, Will Become Modern Condos


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However, the Commission on Chicago Landmarks’ Permit Review Committee voted unanimously on Thursday that the former stable’s historic designation was incorrect because the building had been severely altered since the landmark’s intended era.

According to Larry Shure, a staffer for the Commission on Chicago Landmarks, the building once had a second floor that was demolished in 1940, and the front facade was later replaced with new bricks.

“Because the current appearance of the building does not reflect the characteristics intended to be preserved by the district designation, it cannot be considered significant,” Shure said.
Besides, it's not even being torn down:



As a lover of buildings, historic preservation, and history in general, I fail to see what the outrage is about. Removing a curb cut and increasing density while maintaining the facade (which is pretty meh, but I appreciate preserving the original building stock) seems like a win all around...
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Yeah this is a weird debate. The fact that it used to be a stable doesn't make it an unusual or exceptional building. I think we get fixated on building uses but pretty much every old building in Chicago was built using the same 3 or 4 techniques. If you strip away the exterior finishes and gut the interior, there's really no reason to preserve the building.

In this case they are saving the facade, which looks traditional but is built with modern bricks.

Of course, while rich Lincoln Parkers moan about this non-issue, actual historic buildings on the South Side are getting torn down or rotting left and right, including both architecturally significant buildings and those buildings associated with influential people in politics, music, art, etc.
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^ Seriously, the building that stands is being preserved, and the addition is respectfully set back from the street.

NIMBYs being NIMBYs I guess...
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I'm not surprised by Philadelphia either with this. In terms of change of China born population in cities between 2011 and 2019, Philadelphia is 6th. Chicago is 2nd highest (NYC #1). However for 2018 to 2019, Philadelphia is 3rd while Chicago is 4th.

Also, Chicago has the 2nd highest born in Japan population from 2011 to 2019 (San Diego #1). Philadelphia has the highest increase of Korean born in that same time period.
Do you have the source? Intriguing numbers, I would like to dive deeper.
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Do you have the source? Intriguing numbers, I would like to dive deeper.
The Census American Community Survey.

http://data.census.gov
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Oh there's ground floor retail too. Who knows what the deal is, but this is the text for the permit:

"NEW 6-STY RETAIL AND 28 RESIDENTIAL UNITS W/ (7 AS EFFICIENCY UNITS AND 21 AS DWELLING UNITS) 2 PARKING SPACES AS PER PLANS.(conditional permit subject to field inspections)"
Jonathan Splitt Architects. It's gonna look like crap.
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Sears Tower Redevelopment - Food Hall



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The Census American Community Survey.

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Oops, thought I put the table number. It is B05006
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There were 2 permits issued in the last 2 days to build 2 new mixed use 5-story buildings on a vacant piece of land at 2127-2139 W Madison. Total of 88 new units and 4 total ground floor mercantile spaces. A total of 88 spaces for cars in garages. This is next to the Mabel Manning branch of the public library a little west of the United Center. Architect is SGW.

The owners of the parcel from what I can find are a handful of guys who I believe are from Ukraine originally. One of them is a constructor contractor. At least one of the owners is the same as a semi recently built 4 story building at 2223 W Madison right down the street (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8812...7i16384!8i8192). My guess is these new buildings will look similar to these.

From 2019 street view:
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Glad to see more infill on that Madison corridor. It's a shame so much of it is built without ground-floor retail, so it'll never go back to being a commercial corridor. That area of West Haven is really picking up, and there's plenty of room for new construction without displacing longtime tenants. The Pete's supermarket helps too, definitely makes the area a lot more livable.
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