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Originally Posted by Arquitect
Here is a more detailed PDF about the master plan for Hance Park. I have read some of the criticism about the park, mostly from J, but have to disagree, this design is actually a huge upgrade from what we have. There are more entrance markers than you guys give it credit for, and the cloud could indeed become a type of landmark above central.
http://phoenix.gov/webcms/groups/int...ent/108663.pdf
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Sorry, but I think it's going to another case of "looks great on paper," but doesn't work in the real world. Pocono is absolutely right, and the most important upgrade needed for this park was visibility. They've done little to enhance the views from Central, so now we need to rely on the park being used for pedestrian surveillance, and I'm not convinced that this park is giving enough reason for it to be used.
I would need to talk to someone who knew the exact details of the plan before making a final assessment. I can't tell what some of the buildings stand for, which are new, what would definitely be feasible, what's a longterm wish, etc. But, it's my assumption that the plan is relying heavily on development - 2 garages, retail buildings, restaurants, firehouse conversion - without which, there is hardly any programming or activity. The skate park is a good addition, but extremely limiting; why no basketball or volleyball courts? And, the east side is essentially abandoned if there isn't an event going on in the pavilion.
If the development pieces are going to be easily approved and financed, I could change my mind, even though i would still question the location of some of them.
The cloud sounds great, but I'll miss seeing midtown/downtown while approaching either, and given how underused Civic Space is with its unique art piece, I doubt this do anything to increase usage.