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Old Posted Oct 23, 2020, 5:21 PM
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It may not be so good if you get arrested for it though.
Those kinds of fires don't happen at 10:30AM on a Thursday.
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Old Posted Oct 23, 2020, 8:02 PM
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The Starbucks at Granville and 7th is closing. Looks like that whole block of strata retail is empty. Kind of surprises me, given all the development that is bound to take place in that area over the next few years.
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Old Posted Oct 23, 2020, 8:25 PM
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The Starbucks at Granville and 7th is closing. Looks like that whole block of strata retail is empty. Kind of surprises me, given all the development that is bound to take place in that area over the next few years.
The one on Howe/Helmcken also recently shut down (?) as well.
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Old Posted Oct 23, 2020, 8:38 PM
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The Starbucks at Granville and 7th is closing. Looks like that whole block of strata retail is empty. Kind of surprises me, given all the development that is bound to take place in that area over the next few years.
There's one on the other side of the street in Indigo though, only 2 blocks up.

The early Starbucks strategy of blanketing areas with stores on every corner appears to have run its course. As leases expire, these moves right those "wrongs".
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Old Posted Oct 23, 2020, 8:51 PM
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Maybe people are finally waking up to the fact that paying $8 for a coffee-flavoured sugar drink is not in their best interest. Especially when you can be served a side of COVID while you're there.

That and offices are still mostly empty.
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Old Posted Oct 23, 2020, 9:19 PM
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Maybe people are finally waking up to the fact that paying $8 for a coffee-flavoured sugar drink is not in their best interest. Especially when you can be served a side of COVID while you're there.

That and offices are still mostly empty.
The burbs are benefiting from people working from home and downtowns are inversely suffering. As for people not wanting to buy "coffee-flavoured sugar drinks" you might feel that way but I wouldn't extrapolate that too much to other people.

COVID is probably also driving more drive-thru traffic, which is very limited in the COV due to municipal regulations.

Smart companies aren't making knee-jerk reactions based solely on our current COVID reality. They are making moves which align with longer-term strategies.
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Old Posted Oct 23, 2020, 9:49 PM
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Maybe people are finally waking up to the fact that paying $8 for a coffee-flavoured sugar drink is not in their best interest. Especially when you can be served a side of COVID while you're there.
That and offices are still mostly empty.
I bet they raked up lots of losses these couple of years, and especially during the last few months.

As far as I can tell, only Starbucks stores are closing, most other local chains in the downtown area are still thriving.

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Old Posted Oct 23, 2020, 9:52 PM
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Malls never burn down, amirite? Honestly why do you try any link everything to a City policy and complain that it's a bad one.
Yes, you are right. Good concrete malls and other concrete buildings don't burn down, especially with the frequency of these wooden structures burn, and that's a fact.
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Old Posted Oct 23, 2020, 9:54 PM
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It may not be so good if you get arrested for it though.
Hope the person is charged for attempted murder.
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Old Posted Oct 23, 2020, 9:55 PM
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The Starbucks at Granville and 7th is closing. Looks like that whole block of strata retail is empty. Kind of surprises me, given all the development that is bound to take place in that area over the next few years.
Pffft. What development in this area?
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Old Posted Oct 23, 2020, 10:57 PM
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I bet they raked up lots of losses these couple of years, and especially during the last few months.
Everyone has suffered losses during COVID, that's a given. As for the last couple of years, you will believe what you want to, without any information or facts to support it.

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As far as I can tell, only Starbucks stores are closing, most other local chains in the downtown area are still thriving.
If you think that local businesses are thriving downtown right now, you're delusional.

In addition, many competitors are individually-owned or franchised. An individual giving up on their dream or selling their source of income is much different than a company closing something corporately-owned. They don't care if one location closes and the customers finds another nearby. It's all the same to them. Franchisees will hold out much longer even under worse conditions, I imagine.

Tim Horton's, McDonalds, JJ Bean, etc. already have far fewer locations as well. So the comparison doesn't hold.

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Old Posted Oct 24, 2020, 12:22 AM
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I don't think there are $8 drinks at Starbucks, maybe $6 for a Venti with add ons.

Right now until the 25th you can get a tall coffee and a breakfast sandwich for $5.45 that's pretty good I think.

I've seen a few other ones closed recently I can't recall where though. Also I find it weird that Kingsway has no Starbucks at all until you hit Burnaby.
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Old Posted Oct 24, 2020, 12:29 AM
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I've seen a few other ones closed recently I can't recall where though. Also I find it weird that Kingsway has no Starbucks at all until you hit Burnaby.
Demographics...
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Here are some pics I took today of the fire damage along Main Street just north of Broadway. The damage is not as extensive as I feared.

First three pics are from the back lane.

Google street view from last year:

https://www.google.ca/maps/place/244...!4d-123.100641



Oct.23 '20, my pics

















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Old Posted Oct 24, 2020, 11:56 PM
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Brutal. Cambie last week, Main this week.

What a year.
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Old Posted Oct 25, 2020, 3:05 AM
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City hall almost today too
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Someone in the comments on a facebook article about the fire, said that their garage was almost burnt down in the same area and the guy caught thanks to camera footage and he had a previous record or records for arson and was let go and she suspected it was him who did the Frenchies fire.
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Old Posted Oct 26, 2020, 4:59 AM
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Apparently it was a car on fire at City Hall.
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Old Posted Oct 26, 2020, 5:53 AM
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Someone in the comments on a facebook article about the fire, said that their garage was almost burnt down in the same area and the guy caught thanks to camera footage and he had a previous record or records for arson and was let go and she suspected it was him who did the Frenchies fire.
Our law enforcement and justice system are indeed questionable. There is little to put down the destructive elements in our society.
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