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Old Posted Jan 14, 2022, 12:34 AM
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^^I didn't think I'd see "the Hub" built out in my lifetime. Now it looks like all the major towers except possibly One Oak may be built over the last and next few years.
Yes, Oak is the big question. It would be nice if it is developed as planned at the height to match the others. The pandemic has set everything back for a few years. 30 Van Ness will keep me entertained for a few years : ------>))
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January 15, 2022 - the site is quiet today for the Martin Luther King holiday weekend. Views from Fell & Market Streets.

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1/24/2022 - view from the Fox Plaza 27th floor
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Demolition Complete For 30 Van Ness Avenue Skyscraper, Civic Center, San Francisco
BY: ANDREW NELSON 5:30 AM ON JANUARY 26, 2022

Demolition crews have cleared the former five-story structure that stood at 30 Van Ness Avenue. Next for the property is a mixed-use skyscraper that will expand the high-rise profile of Civic Center’s Market & Octavia Area Plan district, or ‘The Hub.’ Construction will create a 47-story tower with offices, 333 condominiums, and a performing arts space. Lendlease, a multinational Australian-based company behind many high-profile projects worldwide, is the project developer.







The demolished structure was erected in 1908 after the fire of 1906 by Healy & Tibbitts with design by MacDonald & Applegarth. The property was later remodeled in 1960 with an International Style facade, removing the historical character from the edifice. Initial planning documents suggested the building would be partially integrated into the new building, but evidence shows this was inaccurate. With demolition complete, Lendlease will now start work on excavating the 0.87-acre property.

The 47-story project has a rooftop height of 520 feet, though architectural features reach 540 feet above street level. The proposed tower will create 818,200 square feet, with 468,300 square feet for residential use, 234,100 square feet for offices, 20,920 square feet for retail, and 1,560 square feet for public open space. The 151-car garage will span 40,000 square feet with multiple car stackers.
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^^I very much like this idea for a "multipurpose space" fronting on the corner of Van Ness & Market. In a sense it's potential space for public activities but being indoors it can be kept free of squatter, campers, panhandlers and other problematic persons:


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Should be a nice spot to hang out for a bit before hopping on the BRT to Fort Mason for a game of spikeball with your fellow tech bros.
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02/24/2022 - Deep excavation is happening at the site which seems to say that there will be no pause on the construction of the skyscraper after the demolition of the previous structure at the site.
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3/3/2022 - walked by the big dig yesterday heard someone in a small group of people entering the site mention archaeology. That is something required at a site like this.
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3/3/2022 - walked by the big dig yesterday heard someone in a small group of people entering the site mention archaeology. That is something required at a site like this.
I would imagine it’s standard. We had to do that even in residential custom home sites in specific areas.
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I wonder what’s delaying progress, I take it this one should happen eventually, no?
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^^Back in Post #68, I asked if construction would immediately follow demolition. The reponses indicated those involved in the project were saying completion is expected in 2025. 3 years to put up a building of this size in San Francisco is not unusual. Foundation work (piles to bedrock) can take 2 years or nearly. So if they are going to meet that target, they need to get going.

But all the inflation and material shortages have really boosted construction costs and I've seen comments that almost no projects "pencil out" in San Francisco now.

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‘Projects are just dying’: Applications for new housing in San Francisco hit a new low
J.K. Dineen
May 2, 2022
Updated: May 2, 2022 1:35 p.m.

The flow of applications coming into the San Francisco Planning Department for new housing developments has slowed to a trickle so far in 2022 with just three projects totaling 62 units being processed during the first four months of the year, according to the city’s database of preliminary project applications.

While a four-month dry spell in applications could be an aberration — planners are expecting several large projects to be submitted in the next few months — developers and construction industry leaders say it reflects the reality that high construction costs, inflation, rising interest rates and a slower-than-expected pandemic recovery are giving pause to lenders and property owners who might otherwise be lining up future developments.

The dearth of new projects represents a significant drop from past years. In the boom year of 2015, city planners processed 17 applications totaling 2,084 units during the first four months of that year. The next year it was 18 projects representing 1,873 units in that same time frame. Even a year ago — when the virus was near its peak — there were seven preliminary project applications totaling 891 units in the same four-month period.

Because it takes five years to entitle and build multifamily housing in San Francisco, the current lack of interest in new projects will not impact how much new housing the city generates in the next two or three years. But if the number of new applications coming in doesn’t jump in the coming months San Francisco could feel the slowdown in 2025 and 2026.

Ross Edwards, CEO of Build Group, one of the largest construction companies in Northern California, said his company has large new projects going forward in San Jose, Santa Clara, Sunnyvale and elsewhere, but that the San Francisco developments are mostly stalled.

“The bottom line is people are not starting new projects in the city,” he said. “The market that is really hot right now is San Jose — everyone is focusing down there.”

The fact that fewer San Francisco workers are returning to the office than almost any other major metropolitan area — combined with the national media’s focus on the city’s dirty streets and open air drug dealing — is having a chilling effect on the lenders who typically finance multifamily housing, Edwards said. Add soaring inflation, political hurdles and high fees and many builders are avoiding the city, he said.

“There is nothing that is better right now than it was two years ago,” Edwards said. “Everything is worse. Projects are just dying of their own weight.”

Chris Foley, a veteran city broker and developer who is in the early stages of planning a major residential project at 620 Folsom St., said, “the fact is that you can’t build anything right now.”

“You are looking at $1,000 to $1,100 a square foot in hard costs alone — that’s not even including fees or land values,” he said. “That is the harsh reality.”

Planning Director Rich Hillis said that the number of projects coming in for entitlement has dropped, but that a four-month sample size is not a long enough period to draw any conclusions.

Hillis called the current climate “a mixed bag” for housing construction. Several of the larger multiphased “mega-projects” are picking up steam, including Treasure Island, where 1,000 units could be completed or under way by the end of this year, and Mission Rock, where the San Francisco Giants and Tishman Speyer are putting up apartment buildings and a headquarters for Visa.

. . . major projects remain stalled, including a 6,000-unit expansion of Parkmerced, 12,000 units at the Shipyard and Candlestick Point, and 1,679 units at Schlage Lock. In addition, the 8,550 units expected to be generated in large projects along the future Central Subway are all stalled.

Planning Department Chief of Staff Dan Sider said the focus has been on getting projects as ready as possible, even if developers are hesitant to start work. The city has about 70,000 units in its pipeline, about 10,000 of which are in “preconstruction,” meaning they could get going quickly under the right circumstances.

“We have been building up a reserve of entitled projects so that when things are back to normal and the economy loosens up people are ready to put a shovel in the ground,” Sider said . . . .

Housing Action Coalition Executive Director Todd David pointed to the Board of Supervisors’ rejection of 500 units at 469 Stevenson St. as a factor in why housing developers seem less active in the city. “If you are a housing developer why would you risk the uncertainty and the cost and the San Francisco craziness?”

David said the city would have to lower fees in order to lure back developers. “We can not solve every societal ill on the backs of housing developers and expect housing to get built. We need to figure out how to rein in those costs.”
https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/artic...s-17135343.php

Since there are other projects people are asking about, I'm going to post this in the Compilation SF thread also.
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^^Back in Post #68, I asked if construction would immediately follow demolition. The reponses indicated those involved in the project were saying completion is expected in 2025. 3 years to put up a building of this size in San Francisco is not unusual. Foundation work (piles to bedrock) can take 2 years or nearly. So if they are going to meet that target, they need to get going.

But all the inflation and material shortages have really boosted construction costs and I've seen comments that almost no projects "pencil out" in San Francisco now.


https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/artic...s-17135343.php

Since there are other projects people are asking about, I'm going to post this in the Compilation SF thread also.
Would this have any effect on the current towers already in the pipeline, like this one and Parcel F? It says "the current lack of interest in new projects will not impact how much new housing the city generates in the next two or three years. But if the number of new applications coming in doesn’t jump in the coming months San Francisco could feel the slowdown in 2025 and 2026."
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Would this have any effect on the current towers already in the pipeline, like this one and Parcel F? It says "the current lack of interest in new projects will not impact how much new housing the city generates in the next two or three years. But if the number of new applications coming in doesn’t jump in the coming months San Francisco could feel the slowdown in 2025 and 2026."
I think that statement refers to projects going through the Planning Dept. Parcel F and 20 Van Ness are already approved so it doesn't specifically affect them. But I've got to believe if "We have been building up a reserve of entitled projects so that when things are back to normal and the economy loosens up people are ready to put a shovel in the ground,” THAT refers to projects like these: Fully entitled but which the developers are going to wait to begin work on.
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I think that statement refers to projects going through the Planning Dept. Parcel F and 20 Van Ness are already approved so it doesn't specifically affect them. But I've got to believe if "We have been building up a reserve of entitled projects so that when things are back to normal and the economy loosens up people are ready to put a shovel in the ground,” THAT refers to projects like these: Fully entitled but which the developers are going to wait to begin work on.
Seems like good news, it sounds like they'll happen but just not yet.
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7/7/2022 Crane parts delivery today!!
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7/7/2022 - Crane sections delivered today. I don't see a concrete support pad, so not certain if the crane construction will happen this weekend.

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Right on cue.

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Crane Sections Delivered For 47-Story Tower At 30 Van Ness Avenue, San Francisco
BY: ANDREW NELSON 5:30 AM ON JULY 8, 2022

Several sections of a construction crane have been delivered yesterday afternoon to 30 Van Ness Avenue, a recently-cleared lot in San Francisco’s Civic Center. Crews finished demolition of the five-story office building this January, and now the site is primed for excavation of the city’s tallest skyscraper in the Hub, and the second tallest in the city after the Transbay Parcel F by Hines and Urban Pacific. Australia-based multinational real estate company Lendlease is the developer and contractor of the 47-story mixed-use proposal.

Speaking with YIMBY, Lendlease Head of Development, Arden Hearing, shared that “we have been focused on completing demolition, permitting items with Bart, and construction pricing. We hope to have an update on next steps this summer.”
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