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Old Posted Jun 6, 2021, 12:54 AM
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YES SIR!!!!!
As soon as possible!
And the same applies to 98 Red River!
We can assume that financing is solid for both of these projects, particularly this one.
I like your enthusiasm. But I don't think we can assume financing is in place despite the impressive track record of both Lincoln and Karlin.
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Old Posted Jun 6, 2021, 3:12 PM
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yeah this is definitely not happening lol
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Old Posted Jun 6, 2021, 3:31 PM
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Nothing even close to those renders is going to end up on the Railyard site. Best to set your expectations low here.
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Why so skeptical?
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Why so skeptical?
One extreme to the other. Lol
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Specs on the office building leaked? Available Jan 2025 according to the link.

https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/201-...n-TX/22548627/

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Only 36 stories? Disappointing.
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2021, 7:09 PM
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I think we need a new shape, though. Sloped roofs are good and all, but Indeed Tower was enough. Having Indeed Tower, Tower 5C, and these two with sloped roofs would be kinda overkill. More variety would be good. Sometimes I think developers and architects are reading each others minds when these proposals come out.
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I don't mind sloped rooflines. They're all different and pointing in unique directions from one another.


**36 stories is about what we've seen in the "renderings." It would yield a 550'-600' tower. I am, however, worried about a ~800,000 SF office tower being able to secure a construction facility in time to begin construction in 2022.
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Based on the location on the Loopnet map, this is the ATX West Tower. This isn't too far off of the marketing vision renderings. The ATX East Tower was planned as the possible supertall based on the visionary renderings.

EDIT: I count exactly 36 occupied levels on the ATX West Tower in the visionary renderings.
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Isn't this an LA developer and they spent a ton of $$ for this prime real estate. So much for those pie in the sky renderings they've been teasing on the brochure all this time. 36 floors? Oof. Underwhelming. Big time
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Isn't this an LA developer and they spent a ton of $$ for this prime real estate. So much for those pie in the sky renderings they've been teasing on the brochure all this time. 36 floors? Oof. Underwhelming. Big time
This is exactly like their brochure renderings - 36 floors for the west tower. The East tower is where the disappointed will be if it's not ~900'.
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Old Posted Jun 23, 2021, 12:30 AM
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This is exactly like their brochure renderings - 36 floors for the west tower. The East tower is where the disappointed will be if it's not ~900'.
Oh ok, phew! So quick to throw shade on my part that I overlooked the title of the thread which is the west tower.
What a relief. Fingers crossed for 6XG height or greater. It's just a choice location that anything less would be a big letdown at this point. We've gotten spoiled with Austin development lately
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This rendering has been posted before. But the Loopnet listing has this rendering without text posted all over it.

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Yeah west tower looks roughly the same height as the austonian maybe even a little shorter. 36 floors plus roughly at least a 50 ft crown seems about right I suppose.
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Yeah west tower looks roughly the same height as the austonian maybe even a little shorter. 36 floors plus roughly at least a 50 ft crown seems about right I suppose.
If they do end up looking like the current "renderings," then those two sections (roughly four oversized levels) of outdoor/amenity space will add height.

I do, however, don't think they have accurately depicted the height of The Austonian (and 360). It's a little hard to believe that a 36-story office tower would approach 680' (or so) in height with that specific design. The Floor-to-ceiling height average would be near 19'.
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If they do end up looking like the current "renderings," then those two sections (roughly four oversized levels) of outdoor/amenity space will add height.

I do, however, don't think they have accurately depicted the height of The Austonian (and 360). It's a little hard to believe that a 36-story office tower would approach 680' (or so) in height with that specific design. The Floor-to-ceiling height average would be near 19'.
I was wondering this, too. Even with the specialty levels, it's hard to picture a 36 floor building lining up with the Austonian.
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That rendering is distorting some of the building heights - for example, the Marriott Downtown's mechanical roof is considerably shorter than the main roof parapet of the Four Seasons Residences, even though in reality it's taller than that point. The Austonian also looks funny to me, so I wouldn't trust the heights too much. Still, the main roof parapet of The Austonian is 624 feet, and the west tower appears to be at least as high as that and probably close to 650 feet. I think the east tower is probably around 1,030 feet or so.

Also, yeah, the heights for 360 Condos are wildly off. The roof height is 472 feet and the spire goes up to 581 feet, but look at how much it towers over Northshore and Ashton, two buildings that are themselves 424 and 416 feet. That makes 360 look like it's 200 feet taller than those, which is really the height I wish it was. The W Hotel is also way short there appearing only as a 300 foot building. Oddly enough, the rest of the buildings look pretty accurate heightwise.
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Any word on this one?
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