Calgary Federal Politics

[Bigtime]

People are going to bum-rush that forum and she will not get the crowd she was expecting. Results will be hilarious. I'm off to get some popcorn...

[Bigtime]

Apparently Jeremy Klaszus made this in April of 2011 and it still rings true today:

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[Radley77]

Ummm, what happened to Calgary's skyline?

[Spring2008]

Originally Posted by Radley77

Ummm, what happened to Calgary's skyline

lol wow that's an old shot. Maybe she's campaigning to bring Calgary back to the early 90's.

[Radley77]

Originally Posted by Spring2008

lol wow that's an old shot. Maybe she's campaigning to bring Calgary back to the early 90's.

haha, who knows what she thinks, maybe she just hates twin tower architecture.

[suburbia]

With Joan C deciding to once again not show up, it looks like the cons have all but given up on Calgary Centre.

My hope is that while there will be some annoyance at head office, it will over time result in a little more attention on this province's constituency, instead of taking all for granted.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/story/2012/11/16/calgary-naheed-nenshi-calgary-centre.html

[RyLucky]

New poll tonight: Tory 35, Lib 30, Green 25, NDP 8

Also:

Unfortunate framing tweeted by @kady

[suburbia]

Originally Posted by RyLucky

New poll tonight: Tory 35, Lib 30, Green 25, NDP 8

Also:

Unfortunate framing tweeted by @kady

Looking at the data, it is clearly a three-way race. The NDP are out of it.

From what I'm seeing on twitter in general, Chris Turner is our Ralph Nader, and Ezra Levant is our Donald Trump.

Oh yeah - poll analysis here.

[fusili]

Originally Posted by suburbia

Looking at the data, it is clearly a three-way race. The NDP are out of it.

From what I'm seeing on twitter in general, Chris Turner is our Ralph Nader, and Ezra Levant is our Donald Trump.

Oh yeah - poll analysis here.

First, Nader brought in 2.75% of the vote. Turner is polling at 25%.

More like:
Crockatt is our McIver- heavy favorite leading up to election, was theirs to lose, attended few debates, dropped massively in polls
Locke is our Higgins-Recognizable brand (newscaster or federal party) but does little to inspire new voters. Starts strong due to recognition, but stagnates after (Locke has ceilinged at 30% with no change for weeks). Constantly warns voters not to vote Nenshi (or Turner) to avoid splitting the vote. Campaign of fear
Turner is our Nenshi-Starts with almost no recognition, engages in a positive campaign, brings in supporters from all parties, increase in support is rapid. Runs a campaign of hope and change. Wins the election.

[MalcolmTucker]

All movement from this last poll from the one before is in the margin of error. And another one day poll? Change larger than that would be just noise in a multiday sample. No trend to draw, sorry.

[Radley77]

Originally Posted by MalcolmTucker

All movement from this last poll from the one before is in the margin of error. And another one day poll? Change larger than that would be just noise in a multiday sample. No trend to draw, sorry.

At least it repudiates the "statistical anomaly due to small sample size theory" that was previously out there.

I suspect the fact that the Conservatives are doing so little to retain this riding by not attending the forums will also having a negative impact for offsetting ridings. Last election I was undecided and decided not to vote, next election I'll be voting and it surely won't be Conservative.

I'd like to see Turner distance himself further from the Green Party, Elizabeth May and David Suzuki and turn towards a respectful support of the energy industry. This is what I think he needs to do to start siphoning off more votes from the Conservatives and Liberals. The party is still in it's infancy, and I think there are a lot more people that feel comfortable supporting Chris Turner and less supportive of the Green Party. I think Turner is the most qualified to more adequately represent Calgarians on many of the issues that just aren't on the Conservative agenda, but wonder how he will get his support up to 40% or so and be successful.

Also, I suspect there are going to be many Conservatives that just don't bother going to vote. Crockatt is an awful candidate, nevermind in the one debate she went to she thought the tailings ponds could be reclaimed in 2 months. Yeesh!

[Bigtime]

Originally Posted by Radley77

I'd like to see Turner distance himself further from the Green Party, Elizabeth May and David Suzuki and turn towards a respectful support of the energy industry. This is what I think he needs to do to start siphoning off more votes from the Conservatives and Liberals. The party is still in it's infancy, and I think there are a lot more people that feel comfortable supporting Chris Turner and less supportive of the Green Party. I think Turner is the most qualified to more adequately represent Calgarians on many of the issues that just aren't on the Conservative agenda, but wonder how he will get his support up to 40% or so and be successful.

The bolded part cannot describe me anymore accurately, and I suspect I am not alone.

[fusili]

Originally Posted by Bigtime

The bolded part cannot describe me anymore accurately, and I suspect I am not alone.

The green party is still in its early stages and there is a lot of room for new ideas, which I think Chris embraces. I think it is telling that he gave a talk at the Petroleum Club last weekend (attended by some pretty heavy hitters from the industry) and walked out with thousands in donations. The funny thing is, the Greens have been criticized by many (especially the NDP) as being too pro-business, and too market oriented (which is partially why I support them).

[Rusty van Reddick]

Elizabeth May is a stunning statesperson, a solid representative and, as I found out on Saturday, one of the kindest, most demonstrative politicians I've ever met- the only experiences I can compare meeting her to were when I interacted with Jack Layton and with Joe Clark. She's that good. I would never vote for a candidate who tried to "distance himself" from her because she is the best in Canada. That doesn't mean I agree with everything she says. It means that she is the best we have and the best person to have in your corner.

David Suzuki on the other hand is divisive, arrogant and was willing to commandeer the lectern for ONE HOUR AND TWENTY MINUTES at an event that was intended to showcase and rally for Turner. I was even more turned off from him than I had been, not because I disagreed with most of what he said (big exception: his preposterous description of Uruguay as "one of the poorest countries in the world"), but the fact that he made what was supposed to be a Turner rally into an event about him and his ENDLESS anecdotes, I will never attend a function featuring him again.

Elizabeth May was smart, respectful, kind, an electrifying speaker. I can say without reservation that I love this person and would never, ever consider her a liability.

Oh, Sheri-D Wilson and Kris Demeanor were amazing too- as was Jay Ingram, who, shockers, retired to Bragg Creek!

[MalcolmTucker]

That it is official policy to not allow further fossil fuel development is a problem. If they want a carbon tax to cause emissions reductions why are they also pushing distortionairy carbon policies. Makes little sense to me.

[Rusty van Reddick]

Originally Posted by Radley77

I'd like to see Turner distance himself further from the Green Party, Elizabeth May and David Suzuki and turn towards a respectful support of the energy industry.

That's Chris' whole campaign, leveraging oilsands $$$ to help make Alberta an energy- not just an an oil- superpower.

[fusili]

Originally Posted by Rusty van Reddick

Elizabeth May is a stunning statesperson, a solid representative and, as I found out on Saturday, one of the kindest, most demonstrative politicians I've ever met- the only experiences I can compare meeting her to were when I interacted with Jack Layton and with Joe Clark. She's that good. I would never vote for a candidate who tried to "distance himself" from her because she is the best in Canada. That doesn't mean I agree with everything she says. It means that she is the best we have and the best person to have in your corner.

David Suzuki on the other hand is divisive, arrogant and was willing to commandeer the lectern for ONE HOUR AND TWENTY MINUTES at an event that was intended to showcase and rally for Turner. I was even more turned off from him than I had been, not because I disagreed with most of what he said (big exception: his preposterous description of Uruguay as "one of the poorest countries in the world"), but the fact that he made what was supposed to be a Turner rally into an event about him and his ENDLESS anecdotes, I will never attend a function featuring him again.

Elizabeth May was smart, respectful, kind, an electrifying speaker. I can say without reservation that I love this person and would never, ever consider her a liability.

Oh, Sheri-D Wilson and Kris Demeanor were amazing too- as was Jay Ingram, who, shockers, retired to Bragg Creek!

Agreed 100%. Suzuki went on way too long, and although he has some points, he is generally pretty divisive.

I agree so much about May. I disagree with some of her specific policies, but her intense commitment to the fundamentals of democracy (actually going to Question Period and asking questions) is laudable. It is telling that out of all the members of parliament, she has spoken the most, asked the most questions.

[Rusty van Reddick]

Originally Posted by MalcolmTucker

That it is official policy to not allow further fossil fuel development is a problem. If they want a carbon tax to cause emissions reductions why are they also pushing distortionairy carbon policies. Makes little sense to me.

You're aware that we're not electing a GOVERNMENT here, right? We're electing an MP?

[MalcolmTucker]

Policy matters. If he doesn't agree with the party policy he should say so.

[Rusty van Reddick]

Originally Posted by MalcolmTucker

Policy matters. If he doesn't agree with the party policy he should say so.

Yes, because the Green threat to the oilsands is so great. Stop the fear-mongering. He'd be half the caucus and he's not going to be in a position to rape the oil industry.