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Old Posted Jul 18, 2022, 11:22 AM
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Really. Sugar House was like a giant thrift shop. Oh, the stores were cute in the similar way nice house items are in a thrift store. I remember going there for the coffee shop on the corner and going outside with my friends and looking at the run down buildings and thinking it was a dump. Those nostalgic lenses might help see that neighborhood as charming. The place literally had a dollar theater. It was the out door version of what Valley Fair mall was in the 2010s. I get that in our Youth the little shops might have been cool, and we were making a statement by going there. Most people were going to the shopping centers just east. At least they brought stores and restaurants people do want to shop in into the core of Sugar House. It’s wasn’t like 9th and 9th. That place has nice restaurants. Sugar House might have been cute in the 70s or 80s but by the 90s it was past it’s peak.
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Old Posted Jul 18, 2022, 12:32 PM
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GUYS! Yall have so much construction going on, including this huge pour at Convexity and all you can do is be stuck on on debating Sugarhouse retail and commercial. UPDATES PLEASE!!!!!!!!
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Old Posted Jul 18, 2022, 4:08 PM
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Astra is pouring again today

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GUYS! Yall have so much construction going on, including this huge pour at Convexity and all you can do is be stuck on on debating Sugarhouse retail and commercial. UPDATES PLEASE!!!!!!!!
They're pouring again this morning (the camera refreshes every minute, and is on the construction site from 9:00am-11:45am, then 1:00pm-4:00pm, give or take):
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Old Posted Jul 18, 2022, 8:58 PM
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KUTV Article: Utah housing shortage drops to 31,000 units amid record building, report finds

https://kutv.com/news/utahs-growing-pain...es-kem-gardner-policy-institute-jim-wood
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Old Posted Jul 19, 2022, 12:38 AM
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The place literally had a dollar theater. It was the out door version of what Valley Fair mall was in the 2010s..

Awesome. Now it's the outdoor version of Valley Fair Mall circa 2022.
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Old Posted Jul 19, 2022, 3:24 AM
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Old Posted Jul 19, 2022, 3:32 AM
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That's an interesting comment. Of course, Sugar House is not a shithole that people would not want to live in? In one of the fastest growing CSA's in the nation, Sugar House is at the top of many if not all credible lists as one of the most sought-after places to live. It might not be the ideal for you or me but obviously, a lot of newcomers think differently.

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People want to live in the historic neighborhoods of Sugar House. That is what makes Sugar House one of the most desirable neighborhoods. The newer apartments are full because we have a housing shortage, nothing more. When I made that comment, I was referring to the commercial district, not the neighborhood as a whole.
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Old Posted Jul 19, 2022, 3:36 AM
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Really. Sugar House was like a giant thrift shop. Oh, the stores were cute in the similar way nice house items are in a thrift store. I remember going there for the coffee shop on the corner and going outside with my friends and looking at the run down buildings and thinking it was a dump. Those nostalgic lenses might help see that neighborhood as charming. The place literally had a dollar theater. It was the out door version of what Valley Fair mall was in the 2010s. I get that in our Youth the little shops might have been cool, and we were making a statement by going there. Most people were going to the shopping centers just east. At least they brought stores and restaurants people do want to shop in into the core of Sugar House. It’s wasn’t like 9th and 9th. That place has nice restaurants. Sugar House might have been cute in the 70s or 80s but by the 90s it was past it’s peak.
Utter drivel.
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Old Posted Jul 19, 2022, 7:36 AM
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I grew up in Sugarhouse in the 90s. It was a lovely neighborhood to grow up in, but it was also somewhat of a dying neighborhood. Stagnant, at least. We can reminisce all we want about how Sugarhouse used to be, but I don't see any scenario in which old Sugarhouse survives into the 2020s.
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Old Posted Jul 19, 2022, 9:50 AM
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Utter drivel.
My thoughts exactly when reading about this great Former Sugar House that once was and isn’t coming back.
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Old Posted Jul 19, 2022, 3:06 PM
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I found what looks like a new rendering of "200 East Broadway" (Worthington) on SCB's website. My guess is that this reflects what the final product will look like. To my eye, the only change is that they've simplified the facade a bit and moved some of the balconies at the top. Love the use of copper!

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Featured: 200 East Broadway is a 31-story tower adding apartments to the burgeoning urban residential market in downtown Salt Lake City. The design is inspired by the area’s legacy of copper mining; the world’s largest copper mine, Kennecott, is located just outside the city.
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Old Posted Jul 20, 2022, 1:55 AM
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I grew up in Sugarhouse in the 90s. It was a lovely neighborhood to grow up in, but it was also somewhat of a dying neighborhood. Stagnant, at least. We can reminisce all we want about how Sugarhouse used to be, but I don't see any scenario in which old Sugarhouse survives into the 2020s.
I grew up in SugarHouse in the 90s and 00s. It wasn't what I would call a dying neighborhood but it definitely was hit hard by the 80s and there was a resurgence of sorts in the heart of SugarHouse by the early 2000s that brought back a lot of the funky vibe that I think has come to define the neighborhood.

The problem is that it isn't funky anymore. There's nothing unique about SugarHouse. Most cities have a cluster of very unique, vibrant and hip neighborhoods. Salt Lake has one now - 9th and 9th and it's not very big. I think that's been my biggest gripe about SugarHouse is that it went from a place with a lot of locally owned businesses, in fact having some of the highest per capita of any area in the state, to a neighborhood overrun by chain stores and restaurants that literally can be found in multiple areas of the Salt Lake Valley.

To be sure, that didn't just start in the 2010s. It started in the 90s with the Sugar House Center. But there was a far healthier mix of locally owned businesses, including a cluster of bars and more progressive shops, than there is now.

I've posted this photo before but I'll post it again because there's no part of SugarHouse now that looks like this:



This is that location today:



I don't see how anyone can look at the current development and think that's more charming and engaging than what was there before. Especially when you see the vibrancy of unique stores that were forced out for a hole and then subsequently this development.

Instead of those unique shops you can't get anywhere else in the valley, you have:

A dental office
Ramen Legend (credit here - it's a local place)
Aubergine Kitchen (another local place, so cool)
Cubbys (11 locations along the Wasatch Front)
Buffalo Wild Wings (8 locations along the Wasatch Front)
Cold Stone (multiple locations along the Wasatch Front)
Standard Optical

It's sad. I think that's the biggest difference. SugarHouse went from a hip neighborhood to just another area overrun by chain stores.

I get that started in the 90s but it's accelerated significantly the last ten years. To the point that I don't have faith much of the original development on 2100 South will survive the next decade. I think it'll be bought up, demolished and more development like this will spring up, which will price out a lot of the local smaller businesses and they'll be replaced by chains.

Only a matter of time before Millie's is sold and the land turned into a mixed use development where we might get a Five Guy's on the main floor!

Anyway, that's enough rambling about that.

Here's a cool aerial from the Trib posted of eastern Salt Lake:

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Old Posted Jul 20, 2022, 5:11 PM
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Just as an update, I was walking by the previously named Ice House development and it has an official name now: Camber SLC.
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Old Posted Jul 22, 2022, 6:14 PM
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If y’all remember the Grand Boulevards plan to fix 500 and 600 s recommended a multiway road. This is an example of it working well. In all honesty i was drooling over the possibilities when i saw this video. https://youtu.be/LwAkynDHNOU. The one-way nature of those streets would probably make it easier for people to use than this example.
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Old Posted Jul 22, 2022, 6:24 PM
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/\/\/\ Cool example!
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Old Posted Jul 23, 2022, 5:25 PM
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https://citizenportal.slcgov.com/Citizen...21&agencyCode=SLCREF&IsToShowInspection=

Building Salt Lake got to it first, but there is a new development planned for 16 S 800 W.

The project will be on 0.88 acres, stand 7 floors tall (5 over 2), and will have 188 residential units









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Old Posted Jul 23, 2022, 11:40 PM
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I wonder what a daylighted city creek would look like. I think the lack of integration with the trail is fine if they are leaving space for the creek.
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Old Posted Jul 24, 2022, 5:20 AM
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If y’all remember the Grand Boulevards plan to fix 500 and 600 s recommended a multiway road. This is an example of it working well. In all honesty i was drooling over the possibilities when i saw this video. https://youtu.be/LwAkynDHNOU. The one-way nature of those streets would probably make it easier for people to use than this example.
The sharrows ruin it for me. Those are totally unnecessary conflict points. The paths are great if you delete the parking and move it to the edge of the outside travel lane.
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Old Posted Jul 24, 2022, 6:59 AM
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I was driving down 200W today surprised by how far along the Edison House social club is. Here are some crude pics of the progress + the revival and bookbinder projects on 200W if anyone is interested

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Old Posted Jul 24, 2022, 9:30 PM
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Residences at South Temple - 508 South Temple

There has been some document movement as of late for the 508 South Temple property that I thought was interesting:



According to some of the most recent filings, they still appear to be planning on transforming the structure into 118 units of residential.

This is the same property that Building Salt Lake wrote an article about back in 2017 on prior plans for the site that included 110 units.


Renderings of the old 2017 version of the project:




I don't know if they plan on going with the same or similar plan as in 2017, since we don't have any updated renderings for the proposed project, so hopefully we will know more soon.

Either way, I'm really glad to see movement related to this property.
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