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View Poll Results: What is your favourite Block 2 design?
Zeidler/David Chipperfield 4 6.35%
Diamond Schmitt, Bjarke Ingels, KWC, ERA 17 26.98%
Provencher Roy + Associés Architectes Inc. 17 26.98%
Watson MacEwen Teramura / Behnisch 8 12.70%
Wilkinson Eyre/ IDEA Inc. 7 11.11%
NEUF Architects/ Renzo Piano Building Workshop 3 4.76%
None of the above (reset the process) 7 11.11%
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My money's on the NCC going with the last one by Renzo Piano/NEUF. It's the most "NCC-esque" design out of the six.
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My point in mentioning the BoC building was that the winter garden was specifically designed by the architect as public space, and it was taken away. There are elements of these designs that are meant to be “symbols of the people” that end up inaccessible to the public. We used to be able to walk through the Birks building and into the info centre plaza, and the Valour building used to have two levels of shopping. If most of the ground floor of these buildings are closed to the public, it’s yet another erosion of public space downtown.
Definitely agree with that. Ottawa doesn't do a great job with public space either indoors or outdoors. Maybe there's a way to separate the functions of the buildings in a way that allows for part of the building to be open to the public. It wasn't clear to me from any of the presentations whether that was the intention. That's also why I'm leaning towards the Provencher Roy proposal, as it creates the best public square. The others seem really confined and alley-like, or aren't open air at all.
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For me, the DSA/Bjarke Ingels proposal evokes images of the carcass of the World Trade Center. It looks disturbingly unnatural and unstable, and appears to have fallen on top of the heritage buildings on Metcalfe and Sparks Streets.




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For me, the DSA/Bjarke Ingels proposal evokes images of the carcass of the World Trade Center. It looks disturbingly unnatural and unstable, and appears to have fallen on top of the heritage buildings on Metcalfe and Sparks Streets.




I will never unsee this. Now I know why I hated this proposal so much.
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Bullseye. Exactly.
I'm tired of this dictatorial reliance on "not making things look old"
I'm just looking for things to look GOOD
If that means more traditional styles, then... do that!
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The Wilkinson Eyre interior proposal reminds me of Norman Foster's pharmacy building in Toronto.. but looks even better with the warmer colours.

I think the Canada Four Corners Building is an important perspective... DSA/Bjarke Ingels nailed the roof and background building. I don't like the height of Provencher Roy's proposal, but the foreground at Sparks and Metcalfe looks good. The Behnisch building is way too big along Sparks.
Sad to see a few of them remove the mansard roof. In the case of Zeidler/David Chipperfield, adding a floor. The Four Corners was recently renovated, so anything that sees it demolished in favour of facadism, or even partially demolished, means millions thrown out the window.

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I'm leaning heavily toward the Wilkinson Eyre/IDEA building, especially after seeing these interior shots. The scale is correct, the colours and materials are correct. On the exterior, the ground floor columns mimic the tree-like structures inside the temporary House of Commons.
I'm starting to lean towards it as well (other than the removal of the Four Corner's mansard roof, as mentioned earlier in my post). The posts around the modern additions also remind me of the new Central Library, in addition to the temp House of Commons.

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For me, the DSA/Bjarke Ingels proposal evokes images of the carcass of the World Trade Center. It looks disturbingly unnatural and unstable, and appears to have fallen on top of the heritage buildings on Metcalfe and Sparks Streets.




https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/no-...osed-twin-towers-study-article-1.1223249
Yup, I see it now. And having two of them, one on each side of the former American Embassy...
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Based on the initial renders, did anyone else think the top level if of the IDEA Wilkinson proposal was concrete? That's why I hated it so much. I just realized it's glass after seeing the new renders.
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Bullseye. Exactly.
I'm tired of this dictatorial reliance on "not making things look old"
I'm just looking for things to look GOOD
If that means more traditional styles, then... do that!
Personally not a fan of replicating history, but that doesn't mean we can't build something modern that echoes the architecture of the past.


https://mizrahidevelopments.ca/portfolio/1451-wellington/


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I'm torn based no the exterior renderings.

Behnisch has the best contemporary facade but, ranks low on massing.
Wilkinson Eyre is solid all around.

Zeidler/ Provencher Roy .... TNT
Bjarke Ingels ... trendy & overplayed ... doesn't make great infill
Renzo Piano ... classic massing around the new First Nations museum. a tad boring as far as renderings go.
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Website with descriptions of the projects and more renderings, including interiors:

https://www.canadianarchitect.com/block-2-finalist-designs-unveiled/
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Feedback on the designs can be sent to the longest email I've ever seen:

TPSGC.DGSIPEngagement-SPIBEngagement...gc-pwgsc.gc.ca

Presentations will eventually be available on PSWGSC's YouTube channel. Maybe after they've selected the winning design?

https://www.youtube.com/user/PWGSCanada/videos
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Website with descriptions of the projects and more renderings, including interiors:

https://www.canadianarchitect.com/block-2-finalist-designs-unveiled/
The more I look at these images the more I appreciate the Zeidler/David Chipperfield proposal. It has the most elegant spaces and massing along Wellington. The interiors are quite nice, especially that multi-story atrium. I appreciate that the new buildings don't overwhelm Sparks.

I really don't like what they've proposed for the Valour building but the fact that the feds called it out as a red line (must remain functional as development proceeds) probably makes it a difficult situation. I also really dislike the dead ground floor facade on the east side of the Wellington frontage but those two things aside, I think it's the best proposal and will likely age really well. It also sets the stage well for the IPS in that it likely won't compete with what ever is proposed. I'd vote for Chipperfield.
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So far, I've only had the chance to watch two presentations, but I feel like the Feds will go for Provencher Roy due to its heavy Indigenous theme.

Still not a fan of the Reconciliation Tower. Looks tacky and doesn't go with the rest of the street however, I don't dislike it as much as I did initially. Sparks side is a bit overbearing on the heritage buildings, but at least they provided set-backs. But then we have Metcalfe, with no set-backs above the red brick NCC Info Centre.

Their proposal however, might be my favourite in terms of roof lines, with plenty of greenery and different heights as seen from Wellington.

That said, to me, preserving heritage buildings is the most important aspect. A building includes the foundation, support structure and some interior features if any are left. Not just bricks and windows.

One of my fears with facadism is the Ogilvy treatment, where modern floors are not aligned with the original, so they end up in the windows.
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Surprised the Diamond Schmitt one is winning the poll. Interior is nice but the exterior is pretty meh. I don't mind the NEUF one but my preference might be Watson MacEwen Teramura.
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Surprised the Diamond Schmitt one is winning the poll. Interior is nice but the exterior is pretty meh. I don't mind the NEUF one but my preference might be Watson MacEwen Teramura.
For me the Diamond Scmitt one is the one that lets the historical facades shine the most, and I appreciate that it's Avante-garde. Ottawa has been too boring for too long and I'm sick and tired of every new building playing it safe. Bring in the new!
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For me the Diamond Scmitt one is the one that lets the historical facades shine the most, and I appreciate that it's Avante-garde. Ottawa has been too boring for too long and I'm sick and tired of every new building playing it safe. Bring in the new!
I think my issue is that the facade is an odd mix of a light and flowy silhouette with materials that imply a bit more rigidity. I think that's also why it evokes a kind of failed structure / ground zero image for some above. This view in particular I think looks not that great:




Perhaps when its viewed head on, and the two buildings appear to be folding inwards to 100 Wellington it might look a bit cool, but otherwise not sure 🤔
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After the occupation: Six plans to remake the core of Wellington Street across from Parliament Hill
"This fourth side of Parliament needs to include what was left out in the building of the 1860s — the central role of Indigenous peoples in the place we now call Canada,"

James Bagnall, Ottawa Citizen
Publishing date: Apr 20, 2022 • 1 hour ago • 4 minute read




After the billions of dollars already committed to refurbishing the top sites on Parliament Hill, the $500 million project to remake the south side of Wellington St. seems an afterthought.

But that’s not the way to look at it, according to John Ralston Saul, the honorary chair of the jury that will next week select a winning bid.

“This fourth side of Parliament needs to include what was left out in the building of the 1860s — the central role of Indigenous peoples in the place we now call Canada,” he said in a recent public unveiling of designs submitted by six teams of architects. “What is at stake is not a building on Wellington Street, it is the completion of Parliament Square.”

Saul was referring to the Indigenous Peoples’ Space that will be at the core of the refurbished city block, which is bracketed on the east by Metcalfe St., on the west by O’Connor St. and on the south by the Sparks Street Mall.

Indigenous groups are developing the former site of the U.S. Embassy at 100 Wellington St., along with the CIBC building at 119 Sparks St.

The six teams of architects are vying to develop the remaining nine buildings on the block.

The competition was launched during the early part of the pandemic, and a panel of 25 independent judges last December revealed their short list of six teams. Which means the contenders were fleshing out their designs for the Wellington Street block during the truckers’ occupation.

Yet, during last week’s unveiling, there was no reference to either the impact of the pandemic, or the security requirements that were highlighted by the occupation. It’s likely the architects were simply reflecting the rules of the contest. During an earlier phase of the competition, contenders were permitted, anonymously, to seek guidance from procurement officials. According to bid documents, one potential bidder asked:

“Reference to the pandemic is notably absent in the RFQ (request for qualification). Will the competitors be asked to consider their design concepts within the framework of a post-pandemic world, and the anticipated impacts on the nature of work?”

The answer: “This aspect is not considered at this stage.”

It’s possible these omissions will be addressed during the next phase of the project — which will see detailed negotiations between the government and the winning design team.

“Following the completion of the Design Competition the design concepts will continue to evolve and be refined,” Public Services and Procurement Canada spokesperson Michèle LaRose said in response to a query from this newspaper. “Throughout this process, PSPC, in close collaboration with the Parliamentary Partners, will continue to assess the impacts of a post-pandemic environment and security considerations to ensure that the design meets the needs of Parliament. ”

Perhaps the lengthy time frame influenced things. This project, dubbed Block 2, is part of the much larger government plan to upgrade most of the 35 major government-owned buildings on the Parliamentary Precinct. The centrepiece of this multi-billion dollar effort, the ongoing revitalization of the Centre Block, is not due to be completed until 2030.

By the time Block 2 renovations are wrapped up, an uncertain number of years from now, concerns about pandemics and law breaking demonstrators may well have receded into distant memory. Still, taxpayers would be comforted to know these risks have at least been recognized by designers.

The six artists’ sketches on view last week reveal structures that encourage the intermingling of crowds in open areas on either side of the Indigenous Peoples’ Space, and in common areas in the interior. The block itself is to be part of network of Parliamentary buildings that form a campus-like setting.

The Block 2 competition shares features of other large-scale federal government procurements, ranging from military hardware to information technology. The project was launched long after it was apparent most the buildings were unusable. The bid documents note that half the buildings — which include the well-known Four Corners and Birks buildings — are in a state “that requires major innovations” and sit mostly vacant.

Some of the structures are okay. The Valour building (formerly La Promenade) at 151 Sparks, for instance, and the former Bank of Nova Scotia building, which houses Library of Parliament employees. The winning contractor will be expected to complete the multi-year project while allowing bureaucrats and parliamentarians in these locations to continue working.

The six teams short-listed were asked to use their discretion about which buildings should be demolished, and which upgraded. The facilities, which will include parliamentary offices, meeting rooms and other features, are to be interconnected.

This is the guidance they received in the RFQ document: “The goal of the current project is to provide a cohesive design solution, and redevelop the site into an efficient integrated complex of buildings. The project will include the appropriate rehabilitation and modernization of aging and under-utilized buildings, and maximize the site’s development capacity.”

This is how the teams interpreted that purposely vague direction:


Wilkinson Eyre (London, United Kingdom) in association with IDEA Inc.


Watson MacEwen Teramura Architects in a joint venture with Behnisch Architekten


Provencher Roy + Associés Architectes Inc.


Zeidler Architecture Inc., in association with David Chipperfield Architects


Diamond Schmitt Architects, in a joint venture with Bjarke Ingels Group, KWC Architects and ERA Architects


NEUF Architects, in joint venture with Renzo Piano Building Workshop

https://ottawacitizen.com/business/local...lans-to-remake-the-core-of-wellington-st
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The bold, varied visions for Ottawa’s Block 2
Elite architects are competing to transform this strip south of Parliament Hill, and a jury is deciding the winner soon. Alex Bozikovic weighs the options

Alex Bozikovic, The Globe and Mail
Published April 19, 2022


When was the last time the federal government commissioned a great building? This hasn’t happened for half a century in Ottawa, where recent public architecture has been unambitious and underwhelming. That is likely to change with Block 2, a new office complex to be built across the street from Parliament Hill.

Some of the world’s top architects are vying to lead the Block 2 design, in an international competition conducted in collaboration with the Royal Architectural Institute of Canada. Next month, a 25-member jury of parliamentarians, academics and architects, led by the philosopher and novelist John Ralston Saul, will announce a winner from among six shortlisted teams.

These teams unveiled their designs for Block 2 in a public online presentation last week. While they presented a diverse set of visions, whichever is selected will become the most ambitious work of public architecture the capital has seen for many years.

However, it won’t be flashy. Block 2 will be largely an office complex, for the use of parliamentarians and civil servants. It forms part of a 25-year project to rebuild the entire Parliamentary Precinct, the area on and around Parliament Hill. Block 2 is bounded by Wellington, Sparks, Metcalfe and O’Connor streets; this city block currently includes 11 existing buildings and several vacant lots. Two buildings in the middle are reserved for a future Indigenous Peoples’ Space. The remainder will be demolished or incorporated into the new office complex.

The government launched the process in March, 2021, with a request for qualifications from design teams. Twelve of these were invited to develop a detailed design concept. The jury then whittled them down to six, using an exhaustive set of aesthetic and technical criteria. These many constraints, not to mention the challenge of responding to the Parliament Buildings across the street, make it difficult to create an icon.

Instead the shortlisted designs show sophisticated and varied solutions to the competition’s puzzle. The designers include an international who’s who of contemporary architecture. They nod to the materials and detailing of the triad of Parliament Buildings; they include bold modernist form-making and articulation; and they incorporate thinking from Indigenous architecture.

There are commonalities. Several of the schemes extensively use engineered wood, or mass timber, an attractive and low-carbon material. All of them respond to the competition requirements with a mix of office space, meeting rooms and grand atriums.

But there are also some key differences in approach. The team led by London firm WilkinsonEyre imagines a rooftop C-shaped conference space. The team led by Paris-based Renzo Piano Building Workshop takes liberties with the existing heritage buildings to establish a uniform, monumental facade along Wellington Street. And the team led by Montreal’s Provencher Roy bets heavily on Indigenous design to shape Block 2 itself.

Some of these designs stretch the rules of the competition, which is apt; the main benefit of a design competition is to test different ideas and designers, in order to produce an excellent result. Block 2 is likely to deliver on that aim. Its public areas and street facades will send two clear messages: that the work of government matters, and that public architecture can embody the highest cultural aspirations.

Here are early assessments of the six shortlisted schemes, based on the architects’ video presentations.


Zeidler Architecture with David Chipperfield Architects

Of the six proposals, this is the clear standout. David Chipperfield’s London firm is known for its sensitivity to heritage. This proposal “weaves together past, present and future to create a tapestry of forms and styles,” Mr. Chipperfield said during the presentation. The scheme, created by a team that also includes Toronto’s Zeidler Architecture, retains almost all of the exteriors of the existing buildings. The new ones have mass-timber structural systems and are dressed in panels of recycled copper – a poetic nod to the copper roofs of Parliament.

Inside, two large atriums link the existing buildings on site, unifying floor levels to provide accessibility, while a variety of meeting and hallway spaces feature recycled masonry. The team ­­­– including Mohawk architect Matthew Hickey of Two Row Architect – has also designed a Peoples’ Square that sits alongside a new Indigenous centre and in line with the Peace Tower across the street. At a small scale and at the scale of the block, this promises complexity and variety that could, as the architects suggest, represent the diversity of the country.


NEUF architect(e)s with Renzo Piano Building Workshop

This project, by contrast, remakes the facades along Wellington Street into two uniform and finely detailed boxes – the kind for which Renzo Piano’s Paris-based firm is globally known. (Its partners on this project include Montreal’s NEUF.) Clad in clear low-iron glass and limestone, these facades present a timeless and beautiful face to Parliament, topped with rooftop groves of large trees. The other main facade, on Sparks Street, restores and keeps elements of some heritage buildings, as is the case with the other schemes. But this design tops them with precisely carved slabs of glass and arrays of solar panels. If the competition jury wants a statement of uniformity, coherence and precision, there is no proposal better suited for the task.


Diamond Schmitt Architects with Bjarke Ingels Group (BIG), KWC Architects and ERA Architects

This team brings together international stars BIG with established Toronto and Ottawa firms. Its vision includes buildings that are multifaceted, literally: New office blocks facing Wellington are irregular in shape, slanting inward from top to bottom to define new public squares around the future Indigenous centre. (Thoughtfully planted rooftop gardens by the landscape architects PUBLIC WORK provide an additional amenity.) The facades arrange Queenston limestone panels into a forceful modernist grid, contrasting with the remaining restored heritage facades. Windows are sized and arranged to control light and heat gain on each facade. Inside, offices and atriums are consistent, and rather bland, in finish and spatial qualities. This scheme aims to balance architectural flash with Ottawan conservatism.


Provencher Roy

The team led by Montreal’s Provencher Roy focuses hard on the Indigenous component of the project. Working with Aaron Aubin, a Kwakwa̱ka̱ʼwakw urban planner, it imagines, it imagines a round Truth and Reconciliation Tower that stands opposite the Peace Tower and houses committee rooms. This attempts to address a fundamental challenge of this block: the decision to put an Indigenous centre in what used to be the U.S. embassy on Wellington. That 1932 building by architect Cass Gilbert speaks a language of neoclassicism that has strong negative connotations for many Indigenous people. It’s an open question whether the Provencher Roy design of rather corporate-feeling spaces within Block 2 meaningfully solves this problem.


WilkinsonEyre with IDEA Inc.

The London architecture firm WilkinsonEyre, which recently completed a new headquarters for CIBC in Toronto, is the dark horse. (Its partners on this project include Ontario firm IDEA Inc.) This team’s design builds on the neoclassicism of the former U.S. embassy building, translating the three-part organization of its facades into an architectural language familiar from contemporary London. To add Canadiana, wooden “trees” of structural timber show up both on the interior and the exterior. Ovoid meeting rooms hang within the building’s large atrium, like berries on stems. This design has a symbolism that is easy to read; however, the busy and mannered approach to the interior architecture may not age well.


Watson MacEwen Teramura Architects with Behnisch Architekten

The German/American firm Behnisch is known for its commitment to sustainability, and that is reflected in the design of this team, which also includes Ottawa-based Watson MacEwen Teramura. A complex series of atriums and winter gardens on different levels aids in the management of light and ventilation, helping the building complex function for part of the year without mechanical ventilation. Like most of the other shortlisted designs, this one breaks up the mass of the offices into smaller pieces. Stefan Behnisch suggested in his team’s presentation that the architecture should “herald tolerance, inclusion, collaboration and communication.” But it goes further than most, covering the exterior with slanted light shelves that provide shade and capture sunlight with solar panels. The effect, inside and out, is very subtle. Is subtlety the right architectural message? That is for the competition jury to decide.


https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/a...ers-six-striking-options-for-parliament/
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Commenting on a few of the comments from the Globe and Mail article:

Zeidler Architecture with David Chipperfield Architects

Calling this a stand-out is strange to me. It's such a basic design. We can barely see the difference with today. As for the heritage retention, props on retaining nearly all the buildings, but the additional floors look odd. The faux-historicism would stand out like a sore thumb. If we're adding a floor to each heritage building, better do it in glass (and keep the Four Corners mansard roof where it is).

NEUF architect(e)s with Renzo Piano Building Workshop

The Victoria Building is key to the Wellington Facade. Having it stay at the corner ensures the maintaining of diverse architectures along the street. It's strong brick facades will/would make for an excellent contrast to the glass of new buildings.

Having just one large building (+ the old American Embassy) might end up similar to C.D. Howe, just one giant block of overwhelming glass.

WilkinsonEyre with IDEA Inc.

I'm also not a fan of the interior. To me, it has a bit of a Middle Eastern excessiveness feel to it.

Watson MacEwen Teramura Architects with Behnisch Architekten

This one is growing on me, but the full removal of several buildings on Sparks is bothersome.
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Perhaps I am ignorant of architecture, but I am unclear why the buildings need to match. Nothing else on the south side of Wellington matches, so it is weird to me to have two matching buildings interspersed by two unmatching ones.
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