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Old Posted Jul 6, 2022, 12:29 AM
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You guys are raggin' on Robertson Road, but I don't see how this is any different than Farrhaven or any other random Innes Road section of Orleans, OR the dreaded Meadowlands parking lot condos at Toys'R'us. How is this different? Explain to me.

Except that Robertson is an eclectic mix of 80's mini-malls that are already well developed and ready to serve the additional population, with a fun brewery in the back there, and a bunch of commercial condos ripe for providing employment. I've always found this area to be much like any main drag in a Northern Ontario 50k population town with Highway 17 or 7 whipping through it.

For transit, why can't these be built and a spur introduced to any random bus schedule that goes past? or are we not allowed density anymore unless it's on the O-Train main line?

I just feel bad for the trailer park people who lost not only their sanitary systems, but now their homes.

Edit: Having actually looked at the map, you also have a library, schools, park lands, and all the LCBO, shoppers, groceries, pizza, hamburgs, suzie Q's, all within a 2km circle.
I guess when viewed on a map it looks out of the way - I think it's an illusion because it's adjacent to the greenbelt.
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I just feel bad for the trailer park people who lost not only their sanitary systems, but now their homes.
No trailer park people are being displaced by this development. This site is to the north of Bellwood "Estates​​​".

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Edit: Having actually looked at the map, you also have a library, schools, park lands, and all the LCBO, shoppers, groceries, pizza, hamburgs, suzie Q's, all within a 2km circle.
The majority of Bells Corners' commercial strips are within 1km of this site.

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Old Posted Jul 6, 2022, 1:14 AM
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Giving a lot of tower(s) in the park. Needs to be within 5-10 mins. walk of some kind of rapid transit.
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We shouldn't be approving random high density projects anywhere and then have to figure out how to service these developments with transit at a later date, that's a recipe for disaster. We already have a few high density/central areas of the city which we know are underserved by transit, should we be adding to this list?

As planned, this lot wouldn't even have a road connecting it to Robertson Road directly, only a MUP. I highly doubt residents here would walk to Robertson Road often or along Moodie drive through barren fields (green belt) & over the 417 overpass to reach Moodie LRT Station, especially in our climate (either rainy, snowy, +32 degree or any cold winter day).

At the $$ they would charge for this new development, most residents will have cars, let's not kid ourselves. It won't be lower income carless residents or students.
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Old Posted Jul 6, 2022, 3:35 PM
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Do we all want a denser more sustainable city or not? I assume yes for just about everyone here - and this is a step in that direction. If this is built - whether transit improvements are available immediately or following construction is a moot point - it will happen eventually.

If this is an imperfect plan - so be it. Bells Corners is surrounded by the Greenbelt, so luckily it can't sprawl out any more - but it can get denser. North of Robertson road is the easiest place to develop - and has virtually all the services and shops already.

We're already subsidizing the infrastructure of low density suburbs with the property taxes of the denser areas - so in my books anything we can do to alleviate that is a good thing.
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Do we all want a denser more sustainable city or not? I assume yes for just about everyone here - and this is a step in that direction. If this is built - whether transit improvements are available immediately or following construction is a moot point - it will happen eventually.

If this is an imperfect plan - so be it. Bells Corners is surrounded by the Greenbelt, so luckily it can't sprawl out any more - but it can get denser. North of Robertson road is the easiest place to develop - and has virtually all the services and shops already.

We're already subsidizing the infrastructure of low density suburbs with the property taxes of the denser areas - so in my books anything we can do to alleviate that is a good thing.
Kinda agree with this take. The more we can push for density the better it is. City needs rapid housing and it's growing at a rapid rate. Ottawa is still one of the fastest growing cities consistently with Edmonton and Calgary, all 3 of them will hit that 2 million mark in the 2040s if this keeps up. Not a perfect development and I much prefer we can force more density+retail mixed use alongside the actual stations (aka even the suburb main stations Barrhaven Town Centre/Kanata Town Centre/Riverside South) but this is definitely more helpful than not.
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Updated proposal (June 2023)

Since the original submission in October 2021, the Master Plan has been revised in response to community meetings, stakeholder consultations, Urban Design Review Panel feedback, and technical reviews of the application. The Master Plan has been refined to include a large central public park space that, together with additional private greenspace, provides an east-west connection between the creek lands and the proposed multi-use pathway connection to Robertson Road.

The proposed Concept Plan for the Stillwater lands proposes a mid-rise built form south of the park with a series of low- and mid-rise buildings providing a suitable transition to the low-rise Bellwood Estates community to the south. North of the park, higher density development is proposed with seven (7) high-rise buildings envisioned atop six (6) storey podiums. The podiums would frame both the new public streets and internal courtyard spaces. A new public road connection continues to be proposed to Moodie Drive in the west which will serve as the road access for the proposed development. Active transportation connections are provided to Moodie Drive and Robertson Road to encourage cycling, walking, and transit use.



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http://webcast.ottawa.ca/plan/All_Image%...01-01-21-0021%20and%20D02-02-21-0120.PDF
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'Downtown Bells Corners'

I definitely never expected that to be a reality

What is with the awesome variety of building heights in this new proposal? Is that allowed in Ottawa? I thought we have to have tabletop skylines across the region, like in Kanata North.

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feel like this is far fetched.
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feel like this is far fetched.
It will probably end up like most of the other similar projects in the NCR. They'll build one 20-24 story CharcWhite, possibly a second one a few years later, then it will stall out.
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'Downtown Bells Corners'

I definitely never expected that to be a reality

What is with the awesome variety of building heights in this new proposal? Is that allowed in Ottawa? I thought we have to have tabletop skylines across the region, like in Kanata North.

The image is of March Road/Terry Fox in Kanata North not Bells Corners.
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The image is of March Road/Terry Fox in Kanata North not Bells Corners.
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This remains one of the dumbest proposals in the city. Thousands of residents all relying on a single access route.
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Old Posted Mar 18, 2026, 12:24 AM
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Local developer awaits OK from province to proceed with project in Bells Corners

Mia Jensen, OBJ
March 17, 2026


A proposed development that would create approximately 2,000 new residential units in Bells Corners is awaiting a decision from the province after delays at the city prompted the company behind the project to file an appeal.

The Properties Group submitted an application to the city in 2021 to build nearly a dozen new residential buildings at 1987 Robertson Rd., a property located at the northern edge of Bells Corners next to Stillwater Creek.

The project would include a number of mid-rise buildings, ranging from six to nine storeys, as well as three highrise towers. In total, the development would create 1,925 new residential units, according to a 2023 planning document.

The site’s proximity to Stillwater Creek, however, has led to delays for the project, according to Brian Lahey, principal consultant with The Properties Group.

He said that early in the process, the Rideau Valley Conservation Authority raised concerns about the stability of the land due to some of the planned buildings being too close to a slope down to the creek. As a result, The Properties Group adjusted the plan to increase the setbacks from the slope, which Lahey said satisfied the authority.

But a change in the process created unexpected delays.

“The City of Ottawa took the responsibility of examining lands that have a slope next to any kind of creek or river,” Lahey told OBJ on Tuesday. “At that point, basically everything across the city that met that criteria went on hold for about two years. Now, we’ve finally kind of lost patience and appealed.” The appeal was recently heard by the Ontario Land Tribunal (OLT), a provincial body that handles disputes about land use planning and other related issues.

Lahey said he hopes the work that’s been done in the past two years, including soil testing and evaluations by both soil and structural engineers, will allow the issue to be resolved without a hearing. He said the decision will come in the next 60 days.

“Fingers crossed,” he said. “There’s no reason not to resolve it. We’re next to a creek bed, so the city wants assurances.” If the issue is resolved, Lahey said the next step is to complete the site plan agreement as well as the rezoning and site plan application with the city to get the project moving again.

When it first hit the market, the 20-acre property didn’t sell due to a narrow laneway entrance, which wasn’t wide enough to permit access for development, Lahey said. But once the company worked out a three-way deal with the city and the National Capital Commission to use NCC land for a new entrance, Lahey said the property had plenty of potential.

“Within the Greenbelt, there’s not many parcels like that left,” he said. “What attracted us to it is just the ability to get to redevelop one of the last remaining large parcels within the Greenbelt.” Though Bells Corners itself wasn’t a primary selling point for the property, Lahey said its proximity to the future Moodie LRT station was. Located on the other side of Highway 417, the station is currently a rapid transit bus stop, and will be the future terminus for the O-Train Line 3 extension.

Lahey said the company is proposing a shuttle service to better connect residents to the LRT.

He added that overall, the project has received support from residents.

“We’ve had community meetings and we have broad support from both the business community and the residential community,” he said.

“It will add to the population in Bells Corners, which is needed to support the general commercial activity there. And it’s something the local people who live here support because it’s an alternative to the single family homes they have. They may want to stay in the area, but not live in a home as they get older. This provides an alternative.”

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Old Posted Apr 13, 2026, 8:34 PM
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If the City of Ottawa has already approved the Stillwater Station development, why is it now being reviewed by the Ontario Land Tribunal?
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