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Old Posted May 11, 2023, 1:20 AM
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OK, apologies for the sarcasm.
The point? Any solution would be overkill and over studied.

The trail has been there hundreds (thousands) of years. NCC has been removing trees which were crowding out the native plants. This should help with restabilizing the hill. If a simple trail were maintained, it'd probably be fine. If we do the big wide mini-road trails it'd probably fail long term. Anyway, I can't see that happening ever which I do feel is a lost opportunity.

I agree - money can be spent in better locations since we will not go the dirt path route.
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Why did Lover's Walk close in the 1930s?

Exactly for reasons offered with sarcasm.

1. Part of the walk collapsed down the slope. How much more of the walk has collapsed since then? Most of it? Is it realistic to stabilize the slope? I doubt it.
2. It became a haunt for the 'bums' of the Depression making it a undesirable location for the intended user. We have our version today that is much worse. Homeless, druggies, criminals, etc. I doubt we could make it safe for walkers especially after dark.
3. All the public S-E-X.
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OK, apologies for the sarcasm.
The point? Any solution would be overkill and over studied.

The trail has been there hundreds (thousands) of years. NCC has been removing trees which were crowding out the native plants. This should help with restabilizing the hill. If a simple trail were maintained, it'd probably be fine. If we do the big wide mini-road trails it'd probably fail long term. Anyway, I can't see that happening ever which I do feel is a lost opportunity.

I agree - money can be spent in better locations since we will not go the dirt path route.
No need for apologies. A good portion of my comments are laced with sarcasm.

I welcome your comments.

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I wish there was some way to keep that geology visible in the final product.
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I'll put this here, since it will be in front of the West Block, at least I think, based on the location of the ceremony. No media thought of posting a site map.

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Monument to residential school survivors, victims to be built on Parliament Hill

Governor General says monument is a 'significant' step toward reconciliation

The Canadian Press · Posted: Jun 20, 2023 12:37 PM EDT | Last Updated: June 20

A survivor-led steering committee announced Tuesday that a monument commemorating survivors and victims of residential schools will be built on the west side of Parliament Hill.

Ottawa appointed the committee in April 2022 to select a site for a national residential schools monument in keeping with one of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission's calls to action.

Gov. Gen. Mary Simon said at a ceremony Tuesday morning that the monument is a "significant" step toward reconciliation.

"While reconciliation and healing has no end date, and it doesn't involve just one act or project, I would like you to remember every act is important. And this act is significant," Simon said in her speech at the ceremony.

"The site selection on Parliament Hill allows as many Canadians as possible the opportunity to see this monument. It represents our history.

"So near to the House of Commons, it will serve as a constant reminder to parliamentarians that the policies and laws they create, debate, legislate and enforce have consequences."

The steering committee says it worked in collaboration with the Algonquin Anishinabe Nation and residential school survivors to determine the location of the monument.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Heritage Minister Pablo Rodriguez both attended the ceremony.

Jimmy Durocher, a Métis residential school survivor and member of the steering committee, said it's important that the monument encapsulate the effects residential schools have had on Canada's past, present and future.

"This is not finished," Durocher said during the ceremony. "This business of finding unmarked graves is not done."

Durocher said Canadians need to acknowledge the history of residential schools and know the truth.

"The truth is sometimes very, very difficult. I know it's hard for me," he said.

"I'm an elder. I'm 83 years old and I find it very difficult to imagine something like this could happen to us here in Canada. But it happened. But you want to know the positive side of it? We're still here."

The last remaining residential school closed in 1996.

The Truth and Reconciliation Commission of Canada, which launched in 2008 and delivered its final reports in 2015, called the Canadian residential school system a government-supported form of "cultural genocide."

The commission estimated that more than 4,000 Indigenous children went missing from the schools across Canada.

Murray Sinclair, the former judge and senator who chaired the commission, has said he believes that figure was an underestimate and suggested the missing children could number "well beyond" 10,000.

Kimberly Murray, Canada's special interlocutor on unmarked graves, raised concerns in an interim report this week about increasing attacks from "denialists" who challenge communities when they announce the discovery of possible unmarked graves.

The Liberal government created her role as it looked for ways to respond to First Nations from across Western Canada and in parts of Ontario using ground-penetrating radar to search former residential school sites for possible unmarked graves.

Murray's final report is due next year and is expected to contain recommendations on how the federal government can help communities search for the children who died and disappeared.
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Old Posted Jun 23, 2023, 1:39 PM
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First phase of Centre Block renovation project to be completed by year’s end
The project is still estimated to cost between $4.5 billion and $5 billion despite complications caused by the COVID-19 pandemic and the 2022 convoy protest.

Catherine Morrison, Ottawa Citizen
Published Jun 23, 2023 • Last updated 3 hours ago • 3 minute read


What goes into a multi-billion dollar renovation project billed as the “largest and most complex heritage rehabilitation ever seen in Canada”?

Answer: Over a dozen specialists, more than 450 construction personnel working onsite daily and a passion for preserving heritage.

The federal government’s undertaking of rehabilitation for Canada’s main Parliament building is on track in terms of timeline and budget, the project’s lead says, with the project’s first phase to be completed by the end of this year.

The building housing the Senate, the House of Commons and the Library of Parliament hadn’t undergone a major renovation since it was rebuilt and reopened in 1920, four years after it was mostly destroyed in a fire. Modernization was needed because of crumbling mortar, damaged sculptures and aging water pipes, and work was also needed to update the mechanical and electrical systems, address security issues, improve accessibility and ensure the building was earthquake-proof.

According to Rob Wright, assistant deputy minister for Public Services and Procurement Canada, the mammoth project to create the “Parliament Hill of the future” is estimated to be completed by the end of 2031, on the tail end of previous estimates that renovations could be finished anywhere between 2030 and 2031. The work is being done as part of a series of projects on Parliament Hill.

Wright said the project is still estimated to cost between $4.5 billion and $5 billion despite complications caused by the COVID-19 pandemic and the 2022 convoy protest.

According to Wright, the project is composed of three phases, with the first two taking place somewhat simultaneously. The first phase, which he said would be done by the end of 2023, involves a mass excavation for the Parliament building and taking out heritage items to “bring it down to its bones.” Phase two, he said, consists of bringing Centre Block up to modern building codes and finalizing the structural layout. The third phase includes bringing systems into the building and reapplying heritage elements that have been restored.

One of the most complex and challenging technical aspects of the project is construction of the basement that will house the new 32,000-square-metre Parliament Welcome Centre. To allow for that work, a temporary structure comprising 800 temporary posts will be created to hold up Centre Block, with digging of up to 23 metres being done to get rid of the bedrock in front of and under the historic building. The building will be separated from the bedrock using 500 base isolators, which will work as shock absorbers in case a seismic event occurs.

All the work done while rehabilitating the building is being done with heritage protection in mind, the project head says. The building contains 50 high-heritage rooms to be restored, with more than 20,000 heritage assets including hand-painted linen, stained glass windows, light fixtures, sculptures and paintings. Work is being done with support from experts in 17 specialisms ranging from stained glass to stone work to metal work.

The project’s heritage lead, Kate Westbury, says items are being safely kept in storage facilities during the restoration process, with each artefact identified using a tagging system she began developing in 2018.

Centre Block by the numbers

200,000+: Archaeological artefacts uncovered onsite, including military buttons, ceramics, a knife pre-dating contact between Indigenous peoples and Europeans and more.
20,000 square metres: Size of the façade with approximately 365,000 stones, 35 per cent of which will be disassembled for repairs or rehabilitation; the mortar will be replaced and the stone will be laser-cleaned.
40,000: Approximate number of truckloads of bedrock removed to make way for the Parliament Welcome Centre.
20,000+: Heritage assets, including hand-painted linen, stained glass windows, light fixtures, sculptures, paintings and a carillon.
23 of 92: Boreholes that have been drilled.
500: Approximate number of base isolators to be installed during renovations to function as shock absorbers in case of a seismic event; approximately 800 temporary posts will be drilled in to support the building.
22.5 million: Approximate number of pounds of hazardous material that has been removed.
450+: Construction personnel onsite daily.
65 per cent: Expected reduction in energy use.
50 per cent: Expected reduction in water consumption.

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-new...ion-project-to-be-completed-by-years-end
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Not pictured: a dozen of bored cops in their huge idling trucks all around the great lawn.
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Parking lots on the hill (N/A here). Are they really needed? Who they are for? MPs use a shuttle.

OK, maybe MPs or guests with mobility issues, but seems like an overkill tbh.
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Ok, that's not bad. More trees on the edge and a the front, while preserving the vista of the Peace Tower. Wonder how the Residential School monument will integrate. Hoping it will be built in the upper, left corner between the Centre and West Block, and not the west part of the lawn.

Are we sure N/A are parking lots? Certainly hope now.

At least the parking behind Center Block is gone.
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Will I finally see those run-down sheds around the Library that's been sitting there temporarily for 20 years, finally gone?
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Old Posted Jun 23, 2023, 3:11 PM
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Are we sure N/A are parking lots? Certainly hope now.

At least the parking behind Center Block is gone.
Yes, here's the presentation btw.

NCC is probably still negotiating with the Parliament about the number of spots, hence they are N/A.
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Yes, here's the presentation btw.

NCC is probably still negotiating with the Parliament about the number of spots, hence they are N/A.
Booo. Might as well build an underground garage if parking is essential. What's another $100 million on a $5B project?
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Classic car blindness. Parking lots and massive Parliament security trucks don't impact the views, but a bike rack with some bikes obviously will.
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Am I the only one who sees the wang?
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Am I the only one who sees the wang?
Now that you mention it
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Luckily, pedestrians will not experience the wang in any way significant. It's really just a phallus for drones, hot air balloons and air travellers to enjoy.
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Luckily, pedestrians will not experience the wang in any way significant. It's really just a phallus for drones, hot air balloons and air travellers to enjoy.
It aligns perfectly for the visitors of the Peace Tower.
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Landscape presentation from yesterday's Board Meeting:

https://ncc-website-2.s3.amazonaws.com/d...rking-%E2%80%93-100-Schematic-Design.pdf
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Lots of interesting photos here:

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Hard hats on: A rare look inside the massive Parliament Hill renovation project
We're taking you on a digital photo tour inside the “largest and most complex heritage rehabilitation ever seen in Canada”

Catherine Morrison, Ottawa Citizen
Published Jun 23, 2023 • Last updated 19 hours ago • 5 minute read



https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-new...ssive-parliament-hill-renovation-project
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