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Old Posted Aug 10, 2014, 2:22 PM
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Love that photo with 2 guys and a pickup truck.

isn't AAF/fec railroad owned by a giant real estate company?
the news say because they borrowed money at 12%
is reason the AAF will never get built
don't developers borrow money all the time
Maybe wait a few days before we pronounce it dead ?
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Old Posted Aug 10, 2014, 6:27 PM
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I'm no expert on financing, but the 12% is probably construction/bridge loan right? Once it's built they should be able to refinance it in to a lower rate I imagine. Otherwise that rate will kill them.
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Old Posted Aug 10, 2014, 6:34 PM
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Love that photo with 2 guys and a pickup truck.

isn't AAF/fec railroad owned by a giant real estate company?
the news say because they borrowed money at 12%
is reason the AAF will never get built
don't developers borrow money all the time
Its one of the oldest Railways in the country...not a real estate company.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_East_Coast_Railway
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Old Posted Aug 15, 2014, 2:55 AM
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5 cool amenities planned for All Aboard Florida trains

The $2.3 billion All Aboard Florida intercity passenger rail isn’t set to start rolling into Orlando until 2017 — but the company planning the project has some pretty cool ideas about what you’ll be able to get while on the train.

Mike Reininger and Don Robinson, executives with the Coral Gables-based firm, visited Orlando Business Journal on Aug. 8 to talk about the latest on the 240-mile route that will carry passengers to and from downtown Miami through Fort Lauderdale and West Palm Beach into Orlando International Airport. During the interview, they shared their thoughts about how this three-hour train ride isn’t just going to be focused on getting from point A to point B, but rather, the overall experience.

“Think European trains, not U.S. trains,” said Robinson, president and chief operating officer. “When people start riding it, we want them to get used to the convenience of it.”

The project’s second phase involves building a 40-mile track from All Aboard sister company Florida East Coast Industries Inc.’s existing freight rail line in Cocoa along State Road 528 to the airport. Construction is slated to start on that phase early next year, pending completion of an environmental study by the Federal Railroad Administration.

Meanwhile, All Aboard Florida has started work on its first phase, converting the existing freight rail line to passenger rail and three stations in South Florida, as reported by Emon Reiser from sister paper South Florida Business Journal.
And as we wait for those locations to shape up, here’s a look at some of the things Reininger and Robinson shared with OBJ set to make that three-hour ride more comfortable for travelers:

Dynamic WiFi: All Aboard Florida has invested into a beefed-up, high-bandwidth signal that it owns along the route, so passengers will have no problems doing work, playing games or listening to music during their ride.

Cafe car/bar car: During the three-hour ride, of course you might get hungry or thirsty, so you’ll have the option of visiting the dining car for a snack or the bar car for a drink with friends. All Aboard Florida also is looking into apps that would allow you to order your beverage or snack to be delivered to your seat on the train.

Seating configuration: Whether traveling with family, friends or alone on a business trip, riders can choose the type of seating configuration best suited for their party when booking tickets online. Each train will fit up to 400 passengers, and seats will be the same or larger than first-class airline seats. And you can check your luggage on the train, too.

Fully ADA-compliant: Along with wide aisles, the trains also will have level boarding with no steps, which will allow for wheelchairs, scooters and bikes to be able to wheel directly onto the train.

Pets: Though it hasn’t been finalized yet, All Aboard Florida is exploring the option of being able to bring pets on your trip. After all, no one likes leaving their furry family member behind.

http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/b....html?page=all
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Old Posted Aug 16, 2014, 9:11 PM
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Fully ADA-compliant: Along with wide aisles, the trains also will have level boarding with no steps, which will allow for wheelchairs, scooters and bikes to be able to wheel directly onto the train.

Pets: Though it hasn’t been finalized yet, All Aboard Florida is exploring the option of being able to bring pets on your trip. After all, no one likes leaving their furry family member behind.
Boost ridership and revenues.

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Old Posted Aug 17, 2014, 4:53 AM
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This is All Aboard Florida's West Palm Beach Station Design





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http://miami.curbed.com/archives/201...ion-design.php
Awesome. Might spur more development in WPB.
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Old Posted Aug 18, 2014, 3:35 AM
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“Think European trains, not U.S. trains,” said Robinson, president and chief operating officer. “When people start riding it, we want them to get used to the convenience of it.”
Dynamic WiFi:
Cafe car/bar car:
Seating configuration:
Fully ADA-compliant:
Pets:
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Um, Amtrak offers all of that except pets. Why do they have to bash things they dont know about?
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Old Posted Aug 18, 2014, 6:25 AM
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^I've ridden Amtrak between Miami and Orlando, and I can assure you, all of those amenities are absolutely not offered. Really only the dining car is, and it's not like an Amtrak dining car is something to write home about.

The Silver Star still doesn't even offer wifi that last I knew.
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Old Posted Aug 18, 2014, 11:14 AM
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^I've ridden Amtrak between Miami and Orlando, and I can assure you, all of those amenities are absolutely not offered. Really only the dining car is, and it's not like an Amtrak dining car is something to write home about.

The Silver Star still doesn't even offer wifi that last I knew.
who cares this isn't old 1980/1990 trains
this is new trains with Tourists and wealthy commuters
AAF could have Starbucks & Subway on the dining car.
but with few but nice/new stations I don't see a big need.
maybe beer/wine like a NFL game $8 beer

AAF is only going to have 4 total stations ALL brand new
with lots of stuff The Miami is a mini shopping mall next door
to a Giant new shopping mall
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2014, 10:27 AM
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anybody know what the Tri-rail Coastal Link is ?
its 44 million of State of Florida money to connect tri rail to downtown Miami
but needs to be done same time as AAF Miami station
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Old Posted Aug 23, 2014, 12:59 AM
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Proposed SFECC commuter rail with All Aboard Florida (yellow circles) and existing Tri-Rail:



http://www.sfeccstudy.com
i think tri-rail is fine the way it is
better with the new super MIA station.

AAF will be great with 4 new stations

my question is on the green line how many other
new stations are there?
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Old Posted Aug 24, 2014, 4:22 AM
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ok here goes it.
The sun-sentinel says Today that the tri-rail expansion is on.
tri-rail will pay FEC to use the newly expanded tracks.
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Old Posted Aug 24, 2014, 6:24 PM
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I keep trying to figure out how this plan makes any business sense for FEC. Do they think building the rail station will get them larger FAR entitlements from Miami-Dade? I didn't think Miami was particularly restrictive about downtown development to begin with.
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Old Posted Aug 25, 2014, 5:13 AM
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anybody think rick scott is gonna screw this up ??
im voting for Charlie.......

seems like the people at AAF know what they are doing
building a really nice Miami station helps
pretty cool how the trains rise 50ft up
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Old Posted Aug 25, 2014, 10:48 AM
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I keep trying to figure out how this plan makes any business sense for FEC. Do they think building the rail station will get them larger FAR entitlements from Miami-Dade? I didn't think Miami was particularly restrictive about downtown development to begin with.
The business sense is that FEC owns a lot of land around the planned stations including 9+ acres in the heart of downtown Miami which they plan to develop.
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Old Posted Aug 25, 2014, 10:51 AM
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anybody think rick scott is gonna screw this up ??
im voting for Charlie.......

seems like the people at AAF know what they are doing
building a really nice Miami station helps
pretty cool how the trains rise 50ft up
How does Rick Scott factor into any of this? You have a private railroad company building on it's own land and not seeking any state funds for this project. Besides hopefully Scott should be toast after the November elections.
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How does Rick Scott factor into any of this? You have a private railroad company building on it's own land and not seeking any state funds for this project. Besides hopefully Scott should be toast after the November elections.
Right! If he lose the election. Governor Crist will eventually to wins. You have to vote him. It's extremely important.

Vote Crist!
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Right! If he lose the election. Governor Crist will eventually to wins. You have to vote him. It's extremely important.
Vote Crist!
This thread is turning into a political ad more than arguing for or against All Aboard Florida trains.

But, just taking this one step further along, what can Crist do to kill this project if he is lucky enough to get elected? Since the State of Florida isn't giving any funds to All Aboard Florida directly, what funds can he cut?

Those cities along the route are going to want the money for "Quiet Zones" whether or not All Aboard Florida trains ever run - because FEC freight trains will continue to do so.

Orlando's Airport will be expecting state matching funds for its new "intermodal Facility" just like Miami'a Airport has received this past decade. While it is true AAF start up of service has hasten that need for the facility, Orlando will still expect the same funds another city has received.

So I ask again, what funds can the future governor Crist kill without political consequences from Orlando citizens?

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Old Posted Aug 26, 2014, 3:10 AM
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I agree its just that politics in USA is so stupid.
and rick scott is king of stupid.

is there plans or links on the AAF Miami station
how they put 3 buildings on top of 2 levels of shoping
and the train tracks / also how where it connects to
Metro Rail
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Work Begins -- Finally!!! -- on Miami-to-Orlando fast train

http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/08/2...-miami-to.html

Finally!! The construction just begun.

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Preliminary work has begun for construction of a $2.5 billion express passenger train between Miami and Orlando.

In preparation for the project, 35,000 linear feet of new steel rails have been laid on the ground alongside existing freight train tracks at two sites in Palm Beach County just west of North Dixie Highway in Boca Raton.
Let get to work. Let's go!!
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