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Old Posted Nov 13, 2022, 1:03 PM
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While their tunnelling can they join the NAC to one of the line 1 stations ?
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I prefer Disney's Magic Kingdom.
Ah, but the Magic Kingdom was built UP from flat ground; there are, technically, no dug tunnels.

I wonder how many here know that the Magic Kingdom in Walt Disney World (Florida) is actually built upon a number of large 1-story buildings (complete with roads between them)?

Because the water-table is so high in Florida, digging down was not a viable option. All of the necessary ‘workings’ for the theme park were built on grade. This includes warehouses, cafeterias, locker rooms, garbage handling facilities, etc. It was a small ‘town’ to support the park. Then, it was all covered over with a huge theme park.

This allows workers full movement around the park area – without interfering with the paying guests. A costumed character, for example, can appear anywhere, and then return to the underground to go to a different location. When a store or restaurant needs more stock, it is ‘trucked’ to under the location and loaded into the elevators.

This is one of the things that makes Walt’s dream so MAGICAL.
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Old Posted Nov 13, 2022, 10:30 PM
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While their tunnelling can they join the NAC to one of the line 1 stations ?
Tunnels are for VIPs, not peasants like you and I.

But yes, I would like some of that money invested in linking the NAC with the Convention Centre at the very least, which would provide indoor connection through the Rideau Centre to Rideau Station.

Maybe with the NCC now owning the old British High Commission, they ca rearrange the parking garage to include a pedestrian link from the west side of Elgin to the NAC.
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Pretty big hole

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Old Posted Dec 31, 2022, 11:39 AM
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Because the water-table is so high in Florida, ...
And will probably get higher.
(coastal.climatecentral COMPARISON: LONG-TERM SEA LEVEL OUTCOMES)
https://coastal.climatecentral.org/map/8....5%22%2C%224.0%22%5D#12/40.7116/-73.9950

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Pretty big hole
Where's the portapotty for scale?
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Centre Block construction within budget but Ottawa needs to make faster decisions: AG
Delays and cost could pile up if federal government doesn't make choices faster, report says

Mickey Djuric · The Canadian Press
Posted: Mar 27, 2023 3:12 PM EDT | Last Updated: 3 hours ago


The modernization of Parliament's Centre Block is within budget so far, but the federal government needs to do a better job of making up its mind before major construction begins, the federal auditor general says in a new report.

Karen Hogan warns in a report released Monday that if decision-making remains fragmented, it could lead to construction delays — and more costs for taxpayers.

The rehabilitation of Centre Block already comes with a price tag of up to $5 billion, and is set to be completed by 2031.

"Given the size and complexity of this undertaking, a streamlined decision-making process will be required to continue effectively managing the costs and timelines of the rehabilitation program, as construction work accelerates between now and the planned completion date," says the report, which covers the period from January 2010 to July 2022.

The government is responsible for deciding how it wants Centre Block to look, including how many office spaces, committee rooms and security measures are needed, the report says.

"All these elements are important to determine the construction cost and schedule of the program and to keep it on track," it reads.

In response, the federal government said it will start submitting project reports to the Speakers of the House of Commons and Senate twice a year, and it has committed to a study to ensure the space is inclusive.

Following the feedback, the government has changed the design of a new ventilation system so that some traditional Indigenous ceremonial places can take place inside, such as smudging and the use of the qulliq, an oil lamp used by Arctic Peoples.

Other design elements approved by the government include making the building resistant to earthquakes, determining the size of its welcome centre, and making it more accessible to people with disabilities.

The construction of Centre Block as it stands today began in 1916, after a fire destroyed the original building, and wrapped up in 1927.

It housed the House of Commons and the Senate of Canada beginning in 1922, and had had only minor repairs until its closure for the major renovations in 2018.

Assessments by Public Services and Procurement Canada show there were many issues with the building, such as decaying structure, failing building systems and hazardous materials on site.

At a press conference on Monday afternoon, Procurement Minister Helena Jaczek praised the auditor's report for updating Canadians on the "historic progress" being made on Parliament's renovation.

"Once restored, it will be a model for sustainability, and an inclusive and accessible space for all Canadians," she said.

Jaczek said the Liberal government anticipates the project will create more than 70,000 jobs over the course of construction, with over 90 per cent of the work going toward small- and medium-sized businesses.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/centre-block-construction-audtior-general-1.6792427
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WOW!! Something in Ottawa within budget!!!!
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Old Posted Mar 29, 2023, 3:32 AM
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WOW!! Something in Ottawa within budget!!!!
Thank god its still within the $5B budget haha
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The Burj Khalifa cost 1.5 million USD to build between 2004-2010. Gives you an idea of the scale of this project. They are literally rebuilding the Centre Block inside it's shell, just like the Americans did with the White House in 1949-1952.
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I really hope saner heads step in and kibosh the concept of turning the current temporary House of Commons in West Block into committee rooms.

It's a fantastic space, and that entire volume should be kept intact.
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I really hope saner heads step in and kibosh the concept of turning the current temporary House of Commons in West Block into committee rooms.

It's a fantastic space, and that entire volume should be kept intact.
For what purpose?
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For what purpose?
Receptions, diplomatic events, state occasions, public exhibits, first ministers meetings, all sorts of things.

Even committee meetings.
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Receptions, diplomatic events, state occasions, public exhibits, first ministers meetings, all sorts of things.

Even committee meetings.
Well we'll have to ask Queen Romana Dildo if we can keep it, I guess!
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Well we'll have to ask Queen Romana Dildo if we can keep it, I guess!
It can be her Throne Room!
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Well we'll have to ask Queen Romana Dildo if we can keep it, I guess!
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I wish they fixed the Lovers' Walk behind Parliament. Would've been a gem.

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I wish they fixed the Lovers' Walk behind Parliament. Would've been a gem.
Also would have quickly been taken over by "lovers".

The new(ish) stairs on the west end of the bluff is a gem, though, too.
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I wish they fixed the Lovers' Walk behind Parliament. Would've been a gem.
Completely agree.

(warning: sarcastic comment) I guess they didn't spend the 10 million in consultants reviewing other consultants work for years plus the various reviews at different government levels to discover it is indeed 'on a slope' with imminent stabilization risks within the next 1000 years making the entire project impossible. They would need at least 200 million budget to stabilize and repair the cliff to make a functional trail exist once again (but this time stable enough for trucks to use when pedestrians will only ever use it). Plus, the security risk of someone accessing the side of the hill is far too great and would require an additional 20 million in camera coverage with full-time staff monitoring the pathways as shady characters will be permanently presenting even greater risks to the general population along the pathway. Additionally, the homeless will create new camps and will terrify tourists. They also figured shutting down the MUP below parliament for 3 years while trying to figure out how to develop a plan to re-build the pathway wouldn't go over well with the public. It'd take another 5-7 years to build it...only having to start repairing it once it's done. So, they stopped and said 'nah, let's not take advantage of a pre-existing amazing space and keep the status quo for fear of litigation should someone slip off a non-dummy proof trail'. (end of sarcasm...maybe)

I'd love to see it too. Keep it a simple foot path. Don't over-engineer it...unfortunately, it just seems to be not possible these days in public areas. I'm tempted to walk it to see just how much work it'd be to have to functionally repair it (but I wont for fear of getting in trouble...and having the entire cliff fall on my head). Perhaps we can outfit everyone with the necessary gear for Ottawa's first via ferrata! They could then zip line across to Major Hill Park and sign all the necessary 'use at your own risk' documents prior to going on that exceedingly dangerous lovers walk trail.
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Why did Lover's Walk close in the 1930s?

Exactly for reasons offered with sarcasm.

1. Part of the walk collapsed down the slope. How much more of the walk has collapsed since then? Most of it? Is it realistic to stabilize the slope? I doubt it.
2. It became a haunt for the 'bums' of the Depression making it a undesirable location for the intended user. We have our version today that is much worse. Homeless, druggies, criminals, etc. I doubt we could make it safe for walkers especially after dark.

I think it would be better to invest in other projects.

We do need more interpretive plaques around the city that better explain these interesting sites from our past. Another example is 'Suicide Hill' in Rockcliffe. No indication of its part in Ottawa sports history, nor its location.

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