City Murder Rates - Page 168

Acajack · #**3341** Posted **Nov 17, 2021, 10:13 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Encolpius

Cool, I got pretty far into that book this summer... been meaning to pick it up again. Guess we have some common interests! Anyway, with the caveat that I haven't finished it yet, I'm afraid I don't quite see how Taylor supports your claim that xenophobia is human nature. Rather, doesn't Sources of the Self begin from the premise that identity doesn't radiate outwards from a self defined primarily in opposition to others, but is rather based on participation in a community oriented around shared notions of the good?

Such a shared ethos may, of course, be formed and articulated by way of contrast with some other community. But that doesn't mean the ethos has to be xenophobic. Just think of Pericles' famous line from the Funeral Oration, defining the Athenians by contrast to the Spartans:

"We differ from our enemies in this: we throw our city open to the world."
διαφέρομεν δὲ καὶ... τῶν ἐναντίων τοῖσδε. τήν τε γὰρ πόλιν κοινὴν παρέχομεν.

I actually don't think we're that far apart.

I wasn't actually thinking of xenophobia in the usual definition, which is of course unanimous viewed as a terrible moral flaw. I was thinking of it in a higher level meaning of people's tendency to form in-groups, which by their very nature necessitates the existence of out-groups as an opposite to that. Perhaps "xenophobia" is not the exact, correct term for this, but I think every in-group has at least a little bit of whatever xenophobia truly is, even if in some cases it's an extremely mild, benign variant of it.

Acajack · #**3342** Posted **Nov 17, 2021, 10:44 PM**

I also feel quite strongly that even if we were to break down differences XYZ between groups, that not soon after new differences ABC would inevitably spring up.

Also, the USA is probably one of the best examples in human history of a population that has a very high degree of in-group cohesiveness on an international level on the one hand, but which is extremely polarized internally between a multitude of in-groups that are often very hostile to one another.

Yuri · #**3343** Posted **Nov 18, 2021, 10:01 AM**

Murders fall between Jan-Set 2021 in Brazil

It's a 4.7% fall compared to the same period on the last year, although numbers rose in Aug and Sep and are above 2020.

So far 30,954 "violent deaths" were registered (41k? till the end of the year, for a 20/100,000 rate).

According to the article, on the most violent states, drug traffic and related disputes take account for over 80% of deaths.

biguc · #**3344** Posted **Nov 18, 2021, 11:21 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acajack

I also feel quite strongly that even if we were to break down differences XYZ between groups, that not soon after new differences ABC would inevitably spring up.

Also, the USA is probably one of the best examples in human history of a population that has a very high degree of in-group cohesiveness on an international level on the one hand, but which is extremely polarized internally between a multitude of in-groups that are often very hostile to one another.

That's because they've made a culture of isolating themselves from others.

Anyway, this is all very presentist and whiggish. Rules are necessary but not sufficient conditions for government (games have rules but aren't governments). Limits are necessary but not sufficient conditions for borders (my mom used to tell me not to cross such-and-such street but that failed to establish a border).

Acajack · #**3345** Posted **Nov 18, 2021, 6:57 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by biguc

That's because they've made a culture of isolating themselves from others.

Anyway, this is all very presentist and whiggish. Rules are necessary but not sufficient conditions for government (games have rules but aren't governments). Limits are necessary but not sufficient conditions for borders (my mom used to tell me not to cross such-and-such street but that failed to establish a border).

So is your point still that modern state borders are unnatural or illegitimate?

mrnyc · #**3346** Posted **Nov 18, 2021, 7:36 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acajack

I also feel quite strongly that even if we were to break down differences XYZ between groups, that not soon after new differences ABC would inevitably spring up.

Also, the USA is probably one of the best examples in human history of a population that has a very high degree of in-group cohesiveness on an international level on the one hand, but which is extremely polarized internally between a multitude of in-groups that are often very hostile to one another.

why wouldn't it be? it's the international world mixed into one country.

also, its the most well known. never underestimate a wide open media vs other countries. erryone knows the usa's business. its out in the open.

jtown,man · #**3347** Posted **Nov 19, 2021, 1:39 AM**

Well, its cold as shit in Chicago now. I expect the 2-3 murders a day to dramatically drop.

I was walking my dog today thinking about how hard it would be to even shoot a gun in this weather. Horribly strong winds, freezing, and your "opps" are probably bundled at home like everyone else.

BG918 · #**3348** Posted **Nov 20, 2021, 8:48 PM**

Oklahoma City just had its 83rd homicide of 2021

https://okcfox.com/news/local/20-yea...-83rd-homicide

montréaliste · #**3349** Posted **Nov 21, 2021, 2:36 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by jtown,man

Well, its cold as shit in Chicago now. I expect the 2-3 murders a day to dramatically drop.

I was walking my dog today thinking about how hard it would be to even shoot a gun in this weather. Horribly strong winds, freezing, and your "opps" are probably bundled at home like everyone else.

You need to dress accordingly. Never mind the opps and find a random victim.

KevinFromTexas · #**3350** Posted **Nov 21, 2021, 7:51 AM**

Causes metrowide
Shooting - 83
Stabbing - 7
Strangled - 0
Suffocation - 0
Throwing (of child) - 0
Beating - 0
Vehicular homicide - 0
Blunt force trauma - 2
Sharp force trauma - 0
Unlisted cause - 10
Domestic terrorism - 0

Austin totals
Downtown - 6
Central Austin - 3
East Austin - 14
North Austin - 17
Northeast Austin - 9
Northwest Austin - 7
South Austin - 9
Southeast Austin - 12
Southwest Austin - 1
West Austin - 1

Victims
Male - 75
Female - 17
Unlisted - 10

| Jan 7 | Feb 10 | Mar 11 | Apr 8 | May 9 | Jun 9 | Jul 7 | Aug 4 | Sep 15 | Oct 10 | Nov 13 | Dec 0 |

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| Mon 19 | Tue 12 | Wed 15 | Thur 14 | Fri 7 | Sat 15 | Sun 20 |

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Murder cases

Code:

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/suspect-charged-with-capital-murder-after-man-was-found-dead-in-round-rock/?utm_campaign=alert_bar&utm_source=side_bullets - Round Rock shooting - 1/9

1 dead - https://cbsaustin.com/news/local/one-person-dead-after-shooting-in-northeast-austin - Austin shooting - 1/11

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-5000-brighton-road - Austin shooting - 1/18

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2021/01/22/hays-county-sheriffs-office-investigating-apparent-shooting/6681601002/ - Buda shooting - 1/21

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/man-killed-after-shootout-between-two-groups-at-north-austin-complex-police-say/ - Austin shooting - 1/23

2 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-1912-w-35th-street - Austin shooting - 1/26

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/one-person-dead-after-shooting-in-north-austin/?fbclid=IwAR2QlQlGL89M9QlIMXNDSAU9spvMEhu31Cpqo8Jsl-tQaPXWOlrPLuNNY4o - Austin shooting - 1/29

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/police-investigating-suspicious-death-in-east-austin-2/ - Austin shooting - 2/2

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/police-investigating-suspicious-death-in-southeast-austin-3/ - Austin obvious trauma - 2/3

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/suspicious-death-being-investigated-in-central-austin/ - Austin shooting - 2/6

2 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/elderly-couple-found-dead-in-suspected-murder-suicide-at-cedar-park-home/?utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=facebook.com&fbclid=IwAR2d0OJqQ9Lwib8K-06sGBipshijYzvjNIcP2vCkMkef1W-GjrUamnIZ9ws - Cedar Park murder/suicide - 2/9

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/19-year-old-man-stabbed-and-killed-northeast-austin-fight-police-say/ - Austin stabbing - 2/16

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/man-faces-murder-charge-after-wife-found-dead-at-south-austin-hotel-room/ - Austin unlisted cause - 2/16

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/toddler-dies-during-february-winter-storm-austin-police-investigating-as-homicide/ - Austin unlisted cause - 2/18

2 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/travis-county/travis-county-deputies-investigate-possible-murder-suicide-involving-two-male-relatives/ - Pflugervile shooting - 2/19

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/story/news/crime/2021/06/25/hutto-teacher-julie-hall-disappearance-husband-travis-hall-charged-with-murder/5352450001/ - Hutto blunt force trauma - 2/19 

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/one-man-dead-after-shooting-at-north-austin-apartment-complex/ - Austin shooting - 2/28

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/police-investigating-deadly-shooting-in-downtown-austin-early-sunday-morning/ - Austin shooting - 3/14

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/man-arrested-on-murder-charge-after-san-marcos-woman-found-dead-on-backyard-patio/ - San Marcos body found - 3/15

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/homicide-investigation-underway-after-death-thursday-morning-in-north-austin/ - Austin shooting - 3/18

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/one-person-dies-in-southeast-austin-shooting/ - Austin shooting - 3/21

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/police-reporting-to-scene-of-shooting-incident-in-northwest-austin-residents-should-avoid-the-area/ - Austin shooting - 3/22

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/apd-investigating-suspicious-death-in-south-austin-neighborhood/ - Austin shooting - 3/25

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-6600-block-bradley-dr - Austin shooting - 3/27

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/man-taken-to-a-hospital-with-life-threatening-injuries-after-shooting-at-east-austin-home/ - Austin shooting - 3/28

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-11100-block-n-ih-35-svrd - Austin shooting - 3/28 

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/apd-investigating-homicide-in-nw-austin/ - Austin shooting - 3/31

1 dead - https://www.kvue.com/article/news/crime/leander-texas-police-knife-suspect/269-2018951c-a1c4-4d00-b9b4-c543b4ff4e3a - Leander stabbing - 3/31

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/apd-investigating-deadly-shooting-in-se-austin/ - Austin shooting - 4/6

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/austin-police-investigating-homicide-in-north-austin/ - Austin shooting - 4/13

3 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/active-shooter-reported-at-arboretum-in-northwest-austin-3-reportedly-injured/ - Austin shooting  - 4/18

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/poli...stin-homicide/ - Austin shooting - 4/25

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/aust...-south-austin/ - Austin shooting - 4/26

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/poli...in-apartments/ - Austin shooting - 4/29

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/man-...dziJCzKgAY6OeM - Austin shooting - 5/2

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/16-y...n-bell-county/ - Austin shooting - 5/5

1 dead - https://www.kvue.com/article/news/cr...a-a8fd7e9920c3 - Lockhart shooting - 5/7

2 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/man-...ldwell-county/ - Martindale shooting - 5/10

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/aust...g-for-suspect/ - Austin shooting - 5/15

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/15-y...wntown-austin/ - Austin shooting - 5/20

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homi...us-highway-290 - Austin shooting - 5/23

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/story/news...ty/5286265001/ - Pflugerville stabbing - 5/31

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/top-stories/tcs...-south-austin/ - Pflugerville shooting - 6/1

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/aust...theast-austin/ - Austin shooting - 6/11

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/aust...mass-shooting/ - Austin shooting - 6/12

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/aust...-north-austin/ - Austin shooting - 6/12

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/man-...n-parking-lot/ - Austin shooting - 6/17

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/1-de...stin-shooting/ - Austin shooting - 6/20

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/aust...n-east-austin/ - Austin shooting - 6/23

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/aust...y-expo-center/ - Austin shooting - 6/24

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/aust...ied-by-police/ - Austin stabbing - 6/27

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/1-de...in-cedar-park/ - Cedar Park shooting - 7/7

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/man-dead-t...thwest-austin/ - Austin shooting - 7/12

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/1-pe...ar-6th-street/ - Austin shooting - 7/17

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/homi...tion-shooting/ - Austin shooting - 7/17

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/ceda...tment-complex/ - Cedar Park stabbing - 7/20

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homi...-frontage-road - Austin stabbing - 7/23

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/will...ning-homicide/ - Round Rock shooting - 7/26

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/pers...unday-morning/ - Austin shooting - 8/1

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/aust...austin-murder/ - Austin shooting - 8/2

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/33-y...tin-apartment/ - Austin shooting - 8/11

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/man-...-south-austin/ - Austin shooting - 8/27

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/aust...rly-wednesday/ - Austin shooting - 9/1

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/aust...rly-wednesday/ - Austin shooting - 9/1

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/82-y...shot-to-death/ - Tilmon shooting - 9/1

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/aust...n-east-austin/ - Austin shooting - 9/3

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/homi...-north-austin/ - Austin shooting - 9/4

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/aust...orth-austin-2/ - Austin shooting - 9/9

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/poli...unday-morning/ - Austin shooting - 9/12

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/poli...unday-morning/ - Austin stabbing - 9/12

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/1-person-w...-north-austin/ - Austin body found with trauma - 9/14

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/poli...n-east-austin/ - Austin shooting - 9/16

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/22-y...-in-louisiana/ - Bastrop County beating - 9/18

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/aust...stin-shooting/ - Austin shooting - 9/20

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/will...g-as-homicide/ - Round Rock shooting - 9/25

1 dead - https://www.kvue.com/article/news/cr...4-3d98ed2d5e24 - Austin shooting - 9/27

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/16-y...omplex-monday/ - Austin shooting - 9/27

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/poli...orth-austin-2/ - Austin shooting - 10/3

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/aust...theast-austin/ - Austin shooting - 10/6

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/cald...rtindale-home/ - Martindale shooting - 10/11 

2 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/aust...ting-homicide/ - Austin shooting - 10/19

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/trav...travis-county/ - Travis County shooting - 10/21

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/poli...t-austin-home/ - Austin shooting - 10/23

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/aust...thwest-austin/  - Austin shooting - 10/27

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/aust...-than-8-hours/ - Austin shooting - 10/27

1 dead - https://www.fox7austin.com/news/apd-...t-parking-spot - Austin shooting - 10/31

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/apd-search...y-house-theft/ - Austin shooting - 11/1

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/aust...thwest-austin/ - Austin shooting - 11/4

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/aust...ied-by-police/ - Austin shooting - 11/4

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/aust...-north-austin/ - Austin unlisted cause - 11/4

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/body...investigation/ - Taylor body found - 11/5

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/trav...in-police-say/ - Elgin shooting - 11/6

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/aust...er-police-say/ - Austin unlisted cause - 11/8

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/aust...g-was-related/ - Austin shooting - 11/8

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/man-...WC-gF1AX844rF4 - Buda unlisted cause - 11/20

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/1-de...-pflugerville/ - Pflugerville shooting - 11/23

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/man-...tside-walmart/ - Austin shooting - 11/24

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/apd-...-service-road/ - Austin shooting - 11/25

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/1-pe...unday-morning/ - Austin shooting - 11/28

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/san-...te-university/ - San Marcos homicide - 11/28

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Pending cases

Code:

1 dead - https://cbsaustin.com/news/local/apd-investigating-deceased-person-in-hotel-room-in-north-central-austin - 2/14 

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/travis-county/18-year-old-found-dead-on-recycling-center-conveyor-belt-in-travis-county/ - 3/24

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/28-year-old-dies-morning-after-fight-at-east-austin-strip-club-suspect-arrested/ - Austin beating - 4/7

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/adult-pronounced-dead-after-being-found-in-ravine-by-bystanders-off-us-290/ - Austin body found - 5/20

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/man-dies-after-reportedly-being-run-over-by-car-in-north-austin-parking-lot/ - Austin vehicular homicide - 6/25

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/suspicious-death-in-northwest-austin-under-investigation/ - Austin body found - 8/11

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/apd-officer-fires-weapon-during-gun-battle-in-downtown-austin-teen-in-critical-condition-after-shootout/ - Austin shooting - 10/9

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/hays...tJjOPmPcJyff54 - Wimberley body found  - 10/10

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/hays...cvs-pharmacy/- Kyle body found - 10/13

1 dead - https://www.fox7austin.com/news/inve...nut-creek-park - Austin body found - 11/10

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/aust...thwest-austin/ - Austin unlisted cause - 11/1

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Previous years

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Previous years per month

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Austin area population

City: 961,855 2020 Census - source: US Census Bureau
Travis County: 1,290,188 2020 Census - source: US Census Bureau
Metro: 2,283,371 2020 Census - source: US Census Bureau

Area - City: 297 square miles (2010) - US Census Bureau
Area - Metro: 4,285 square miles - Wikipedia
Area - Travis County: 1,023 square miles - Wikipedia

BG918 · #**3351** Posted **Nov 25, 2021, 8:50 AM**

Louisville, KY is experiencing an unprecedented level of violence. They just had their 174th homicide breaking a previous record set last year and at this pace could top 200 homicides before the end of 2021.

LosAngelesSportsFan · #**3352** Posted **Nov 25, 2021, 11:14 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by BG918

Louisville, KY is experiencing an unprecedented level of violence. They just had their 174th homicide breaking a previous record set last year and at this pace could top 200 homicides before the end of 2021.

That's fucking ridiculous for a city of 600k people

Qubert · #**3353** Posted **Nov 25, 2021, 11:38 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by biguc

That's because they've made a culture of isolating themselves from others.

Anyway, this is all very presentist and whiggish. Rules are necessary but not sufficient conditions for government (games have rules but aren't governments). Limits are necessary but not sufficient conditions for borders (my mom used to tell me not to cross such-and-such street but that failed to establish a border).

That makes sense on a blank slate level, but using your very examples:

-If you and your friends where playing monopoly and you stole your friends properties he/she'd call you out on it. Your friend = government

-If you did cross such-n-such street, your mom most likely grounded you or made you face punative action. Your mom = government.

We think of "government" or "the state" as being black helicopters, court buildings, massive beauocracies and the like but when you really look at it on an anthopoligcal level the massive state apparatices we know today are the direct decendants of cheiftan-tribual systems of yore. Yes, it's true that the advent of agriculture led to the notion of property rights as we understand it (I would argue property rights exist in hunter gatherer societies as well but that's going deeper than an SSP post can go) and thus the formation of territory based notions of identity/nationhood and the attendant organized states that grew from that. But one can argue that for true stateless society to exist one first has to define what a state "is", and I've never gotten a satisfactory answer to that. If someone can tell me "no" and enforce that no then to me the seeds of a state are already being sown.

ChiSoxRox · #**3354** Posted **Nov 26, 2021, 2:38 AM**

New Orleans - 141 YTD

Annualized rate of 40.7 per 100k

BG918 · #**3355** Posted **Nov 26, 2021, 7:07 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by LosAngelesSportsFan

That's fucking ridiculous for a city of 600k people

You think that’s bad look at Birmingham, AL. Only 200k people and has 116 homicides in 2021

BG918 · #**3356** Posted **Nov 26, 2021, 12:13 PM**

Another Midwest city, another homicide record. Indianapolis just tied its all-time record with 245 homicides in 2021. There were 245 homicides in all of 2020.

Columbus also set a new record with 178 homicides.

Steely Dan · #**3357** Posted **Nov 26, 2021, 8:39 PM**

Take the political BS to the toilet, boys.

CVG · #**3358** Posted **Nov 26, 2021, 8:58 PM**

Memphis also around 600k population has 290 murders so far this year, set a record with 323 last year. Eye popping numbers in a lot of places unfortunately.

Centropolis · #**3359** Posted **Nov 27, 2021, 2:10 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by BG918

Louisville, KY is experiencing an unprecedented level of violence. They just had their 174th homicide breaking a previous record set last year and at this pace could top 200 homicides before the end of 2021.

i’ve always thought of louisville as a smaller, friendlier, (more southern of course but related) more chill st. louis so thats very disheartening.

tablemtn · #**3360** Posted **Nov 28, 2021, 10:07 PM**

Portland is up to 77 homicides, of which 6 or 7 will end up classified as 'justified.' Each new case adds to the all-time record, and has since #70. It seems like quite a few cities are setting records this year in the US. Tucson has at least 90 cases so far, compared to the old record of 79.