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Old Posted Dec 3, 2019, 8:10 PM
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Finally. This is ridiculously overdue.

Manhattan is finally almost completely circled by a waterfront path. Just a few missing pieces left.
I like biking along the Manhattan waterfront, but there are too many gaps on the eastside, mainly above 34th Street. It will be nice once this is finally completed, but yeah, long overdue
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So none of the benefits of speed and limited access while still serving as a 150 foot wide auto sewer barrier to the waterfront? Sounds like the West Side Highway, no thanks.
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So none of the benefits of speed and limited access while still serving as a 150 foot wide auto sewer barrier to the waterfront? Sounds like the West Side Highway, no thanks.
Whenever I'm sitting in traffic on the FDR (anytime I've used it) I can't say I've been overly impressed by the speed it supposedly affords.

And no, I would not design it's replacement like the West Side Highway/West St.
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I drive from the UES to Jersey City reasonably often. I can usually get down the FDR and out onto West Street pretty quickly mid day. I just avoid anything vaguely like rush hour. It's a damn sight faster than going down the West Side.

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Whenever I'm sitting in traffic on the FDR (anytime I've used it) I can't say I've been overly impressed by the speed it supposedly affords.

And no, I would not design it's replacement like the West Side Highway/West St.
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Hopefully this proposal helps to speed up commute time and ease congestion. Along with the city's "Fast Forward" initiative, NYC needs major upgrades in order to catch up to other metropolitan cities (most of which offer cleaner and quicker commutes).

I visit NYC (one of the greatest cities in the world, IMHO) at least 2 times a year for business, and I am always shocked at how the transport system has fallen behind compared to many cities in other developed nations.
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Hopefully this proposal helps to speed up commute time and ease congestion. Along with the city's "Fast Forward" initiative, NYC needs major upgrades in order to catch up to other metropolitan cities (most of which offer cleaner and quicker commutes).

I visit NYC (one of the greatest cities in the world, IMHO) at least 2 times a year for business, and I am always shocked at how the transport system has fallen behind compared to many cities in other developed nations.
I seriously doubt an extended waterfront walkway will make a difference with commute times and congestion. It isn't like you can't walk/bike this distance already.

And NYC's overall transport network has been lagging for 70 years, primarily due to very stupid decisions made after WW2. Has nothing really to do with any changes in recent decades.
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I thought the green light was for a full flood barrier to defend Manhattan against sea level rise. Or is this just the first part of the $1.5billion project?
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Good to see they used some trees to help with sound mitigation.
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Having a "traditional blvd" on the waterfront doesn't really improve access to the waterfront. Does the West Side Hwy really not feel like a barrier? If done in a manner that would all but guarantee it would never flood, trenching/burial/capping is the answer to return the waterfront to human beings.
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Terra forming could aid, but would be insanely expensive.
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Having a "traditional blvd" on the waterfront doesn't really improve access to the waterfront. Does the West Side Hwy really not feel like a barrier? If done in a manner that would all but guarantee it would never flood, trenching/burial/capping is the answer to return the waterfront to human beings.
Boulevards don't do anything and the proof is this terrible and pedestrian hostile implementation on the west side. Ok.

The motto for NYC should be "We barely tried it, and badly, so it doesn't work" at this point.
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Having a "traditional blvd" on the waterfront doesn't really improve access to the waterfront. Does the West Side Hwy really not feel like a barrier? If done in a manner that would all but guarantee it would never flood, trenching/burial/capping is the answer to return the waterfront to human beings.
This was planned for the West Side in the 70's and 80's (Westway) but NIMBYs killed it. There was a more limited proposal after 9-11, restricted to Lower Manhattan, but corporations, fearing truck bombs in the aftermath of the terror attacks, killed it.

And I disagree re. boulevards. The current Westway (whatever it's now called) is vastly better than its (elevated, freeway-like) predecessor. It's walkable and bike-friendly, with slow speeds and lots of traffic lights and pedestrian crossings.
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One of the new sites that opened up last year that I usually bike around.



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wow but 3 bridges that look the same?? jersey to manhattan should be done first imo.

i can't workout from the description of how the lower manhattan one will work? can someone draw it on a map? it just sounds weird!
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https://www.6sqft.com/east-midtown-g...ll-park-opens/

East Midtown Greenway opens, with nearly 3 acres of public open space on the waterfront





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New York City has taken a major step forward in its effort to expand the greenway network. The city’s Economic Development Corporation (NYCEDC) and NYC Parks on Tuesday officially opened the East Midtown Greenway and the second phase of the Andrew Haswell Green Park, delivering nearly three acres of public open space, a new pedestrian walkway, a pedestrian bridge, landscaping, and a separated bike lane stretching from East 53rd Street to East 60th Street along the East River. The $197.6 million investment fills a significant gap in the Manhattan Waterfront Greenway.

The greenway features a 20-foot-wide bikeway and a 20-foot-wide pedestrian zone with a walkway, a planting area, a pedestrian bridge on East 54th Street, and a public art installation created by artist Stacy Levy called “Diatom Lace.”

Andrew Haswell Green Park, which represents roughly $42.6 million of the total investment, includes renovations to the East 60th Street ramp, a new lawn, landscaping, lighting, and an amphitheater with seating, according to Patch.

Designed by Stantec and constructed by Skanska in collaboration with the city, the project expands the East River Esplanade by 1.1 miles. The design phase of the project began in 2017, and work broke ground in 2019.
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The opening of the East Midtown Greenway builds upon a larger initiative by the Adams administration to expand the city’s greenway network by 40 miles and bring the total length of greenway corridors to 60 miles. The corridor completes a gap in the Manhattan Waterfront Greenway, a continuous 32.5-mile loop around the borough that will connect a network of green spaces with more than 1,000 acres when completed.

“In Manhattan, green space is at a premium; if we have to get creative and add to the island to deliver it, that’s what we’ll do,” Deputy Mayor of Operations Meera Joshi said.

“A crucial component of our broader Manhattan Waterfront Greenway, which piece by piece is delivering a 32.5 mile loop around Manhattan, the Midtown East Greenway and Andrew Haswell Park will welcome more New Yorkers than ever to bike, run and walk with the sun in their faces– and further develop our city’s work-play waterfront.”

In August, Mayor Eric Adams announced that the city had received a $7.25 million federal grant to be put towards the creation of five new greenway corridors in the outer boroughs that will fill in the existing gaps and better serve historically underserved, low-income neighborhoods.
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NYC will begin conducting public outreach for its first outer-borough greenway project, the 16-mile Queens Waterfront Greenway, in early 2024. The project will connect Gantry Plaza State Park in Long Island City to Little Bay Park in College Point.

Other projects include the Harlem River Greenway in the Bronx, a seven-mile continuous walking and biking path that will link Randall’s Island and Van Cortlandt Park. The transformative project aims to reconnect Bronx residents to the Harlem River waterfront, which has been largely inaccessible since the construction of the Major Deegan Expressway in the 1930s. The city has already begun hosting workshops and pop-up engagements for the project.

The Harlem River Greenway will connect to another future project, the South Bronx Greenway, which will span 15 miles from Randall’s Island Park to SUNY Maritime in Fort Schuyler, further expanding Bronxites’ accessibility to waterfront space.

Additional projects include the Historic Brooklyn Greenway, stretching 11 miles from Coney Island to Highland Park, the Staten Island Greenway, spanning 10 miles from the Goethals Bridge to the Verrazzano Bridge, and the Southern Queens Greenway, running seven miles from Spring Creek Park on the Jamaica Bay shoreline to Brookville Park in Springfield Gardens.

Over the next two years, NYC will begin a new implementation plan for each proposed corridor every six months. The city will conduct extensive outreach with local community members where expansions are planned.


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Here we go.

‘Ribbon Bridge’ Concepts for Cyclists and Pedestrians Proposed Across Hudson and East Rivers
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I hope at least they are all unique in someway! Oh and 100 million each?? Pffffft yeh and the rest!

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Here we go.

I hope at least they are all unique in someway! Oh and 100 million each?? Pffffft yeh and the rest!
...wouldn't it simply be more practical to repurpose all of the existing bridges (and possibly tunnels)?
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Existing tunnels and bridges are relatively narrow, and couldn't accommodate large expansions of walkways/bikeways, without reducing vehicle traffic to one lane in each direction. I wouldn't mind such a scenario, but I doubt it's feasible.

There have been no new bridges or tunnels to Manhattan since the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel was completed. Time for some new roadways, but exclusively bike- and pedestrian-centered.
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