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Old Posted Dec 17, 2017, 8:23 PM
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Great shot, Chuck!
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Wonder how they're going to shovel snow from the West block roof?
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Wonder how they're going to shovel snow from the West block roof?
[insert joke about parliamentary hot air here]
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Thanks, RocketPhish. AndyMEng (damn, I'm just a BEng) I wonder how green the place is with a huge heated glass roofed space? Nothing with that much glass is ever green but they like to tout such things any way.


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Old Posted Dec 19, 2017, 12:00 AM
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There are two layers of glass with a large space in between that is supposed to be a climate buffer zone. Maybe they'll occasionally heat that space like a defrost cycle to melt the snow?
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Old Posted Dec 19, 2017, 2:14 AM
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Layers.



I think I put one of these up, somewhere, before but here it is again. 15 Oct 2016. Plenty of connections to check both in the shop and in situ.








D828216 canada parliament hill west block steel roof
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There are two layers of glass with a large space in between that is supposed to be a climate buffer zone. Maybe they'll occasionally heat that space like a defrost cycle to melt the snow?
That's just a fancy way of saying it is double paned. Making the gap larger doesn't help all that much (in the winter at least) as the air in the gap warmed by the lower pane will rise and the air cooled by the upper pane will fall (basic convection). The effect can be reduced by using a more viscous gas, but it won't eliminate the problem.
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That's just a fancy way of saying it is double paned. Making the gap larger doesn't help all that much (in the winter at least) as the air in the gap warmed by the lower pane will rise and the air cooled by the upper pane will fall (basic convection). The effect can be reduced by using a more viscous gas, but it won't eliminate the problem.
As I understand there are two sets of glass (both probably double-paned) with a distance in the order of metres between them — basically above and below the truss work. This creates a substantial barrier, so that if it is -20˚C outside, it might be 0˚C in the buffer space and +20˚C in the atrium.


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Interesting, one can't see (not very well) all that beautiful steelwork from *inside* the space.


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As I understand there are two sets of glass (both probably double-paned) with a distance in the order of metres between them — basically above and below the truss work. This creates a substantial barrier, so that if it is -20˚C outside, it might be 0˚C in the buffer space and +20˚C in the atrium.


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Article in yesterday's Star on the renovations.

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/star-col...ions-welcome-to-our-nations-capital.html

Peace, order and bad renovations: Welcome to our nation’s capital
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Article in yesterday's Star on the renovations.

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/star-col...ions-welcome-to-our-nations-capital.html

Peace, order and bad renovations: Welcome to our nation’s capital
LOL, complaining about 'Lavish' and 'Drab' in the same statement! Welcome to a slow news day...
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LOL, complaining about 'Lavish' and 'Drab' in the same statement! Welcome to a slow news day...
not to mention riddled with errors
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Quite a monumental project for Parliament Hill. When was the last time it'd renovation in that scale? Can't wait to see the completed space. I kind of like the skylight and natural light in the temporary chamber of HOC. Architecturally, it could symbolize a modern, open and democratic government which encourages participation from the people. However, it could pose many security issues. Nontheless, it has a very positive look and feel. I also like the juxtaposition of the modern metal roof and traditional building façade.

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LOL, complaining about 'Lavish' and 'Drab' in the same statement! Welcome to a slow news day...
This article kind of sums up how it must feel to be a politician in Canada. Give us nice things! Stop spending our money on nice things!
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Old Posted Jun 16, 2018, 3:07 AM
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Take a peek inside West Block's House of Commons, MPs' new home for the next decade

Blair Crawford, Ottawa Citizen
Updated: June 15, 2018


The smell of fresh varnish hung in the air Friday as the government showcased the renovated West Block that will serve as “the heart of Canada’s democratic parliamentary system” for at least the next decade.

While Centre Block undergoes extensive renovations, MPs will move to the West Block in January 2019 to meet in a new interim House of Commons constructed within the rectangular interior courtyard of the edifice. It’s a 19th-century structure that pre-dates Confederation and was built long before modern building codes.

“At the end of the day, the most important objective is to make sure we deliver facilities that meet the full needs of Parliament and that will inspire future Canadians for generations to come,” said Rob Wright, assistant deputy minister of the Parliamentary Precinct Branch.

Work has been underway on West Block for more than seven years. The numbers are staggering: Some 70,000 cubic metres of bedrock — enough to fill 28 Olympic-sized swimming pools — has been hewn from beneath the building to a depth of 15 metres. Five million tonnes of structural steel (Canadian made) was added to the building to support the glass roof over the interim House and protect the building against earthquakes.

It is the largest masonry restoration project in Canadian history and involved working on the 140,000 stones in the building’s exterior walls and replacing 1.5 million bricks in the interior walls.

West Block’s renovation and restoration is expected to cost $863 million when complete.

Architecturally, the interim House of Commons melds modernity and nature — it used to be outside after all — with the heritage structure of the original West Block. The glass roof allows natural light, augmented by LED lighting necessary for it to function as a TV broadcast studio.

“The architecture here is highly significant,” said Georges Drolet, a partner in EVOQ Architecture. The design of the interim House and the new areas of West Block echo the old form in a “celebration” of the building’s neo-gothic heritage.

But the architects also wanted to recognize the landscape and nature of Canada — “this clearing of the forest,” as Drolet put it — drawing inspiration from the paintings of Tom Thomson, for example.

“You have the natural light, you can see the trees and the branches when you look up,” he said.

The woodwork, mostly birch and red oak, was done by Beaubois Group based in Quebec. The House is filled with temporary plywood desks and furniture, but those will be replaced with the real furniture from the Centre Block House of Commons.

West Block was never meant to be a public building and shoe-horning 338 MPs, Hill staff and visitors into the space meant compromises had to be made.

The public viewing gallery has 346 seats, 40 per cent fewer than the 581 seats in the Centre Block gallery. As well, public tours will not be permitted when MPs are sitting. To compensate, tour hours will be extended in the summer, during parliamentary breaks and on weekends. (Even in Centre Block, tour groups are not permitted near the House of Commons when the House is in session.)

The West Block also features a new visitor entrance and security screening area at the building’s northeast corner, the corner nearest Centre Block. Visitors will descend underground on escalators to a new entrance hall, with an adjacent gift shop.

Committee rooms, located in the newly excavated underground areas, are more modern and provide better cybersecurity than the existing rooms. The parliamentary dining room, however, is much smaller, with fewer than half the seats of the dining room in Centre Block.

The move from Centre Block was originally to have taken place in the fall of 2018, but MPs voted this week to delay it until January 2019. The Senate will move to its new location at the Government Conference Centre, across the Château Laurier, which is undergoing its own $269-million refit.

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Impressive. When Centre Block reopens they should move the Government Conference Centre to this space and vacate the old Union Station (once the Senate is done with it).
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This looks amazing!
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Looking forward to visiting public viewing gallery next year.
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Stunning!
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I really think we need to move towards benches (like the UK) and not desks- looks very school children like and always has. Just my long standing opinion.

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