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Old Posted Mar 28, 2023, 2:02 AM
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we need to take a step back
some stratigetic planning is needed for parking or we will screw our selfs
No it's not. We're screwing ourselves by spending any more money expanding automobile infrastructure. This has been verified countless times in the past decades, all over the world, I don't know why people think itnwould be different here.
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Old Posted Mar 28, 2023, 2:15 AM
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There is a TIF available right now. Know anyone who owns a lot of properties that could use redevelopment?
Don’t need a TIFF but rather a long term government / banking tenant.

Unfortunately they are leasing in the suburbs. Back offices need to be down town!
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Development is very difficult and has become extremely expensive especially in the core. The added challenges or urban poverty, addiction and the crime which manifests itself as a result discourages capital from being invested downtown. The owners of Artis REIT lost their company because of the cost overruns of the Main Street building we all wanted and cheered on.
Let's not blame 300 Main's failures or cost overruns on poverty, addiction and crime.

They made their bed when they chose Ray Wan as the architect and their CEO's own company as the GC. Poverty, addiction, and crime didn't cause the budget overruns, blown timelines, and engineering issues (flooding, settling, etc.).
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Let's not blame 300 Main's failures or cost overruns on poverty, addiction and crime.

They made their bed when they chose Ray Wan as the architect and their CEO's own company as the GC. Poverty, addiction, and crime didn't cause the budget overruns, blown timelines, and engineering issues (flooding, settling, etc.).
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Old Posted Mar 28, 2023, 7:11 PM
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I'm starting to agree with you more and I don't know how to feel about that.

Surely it can't be long before a casino is announced...
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Old Posted Mar 28, 2023, 7:48 PM
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This is the plan as of 2021.
I really hope the city plays the long game on this one and negotiates to get all the land necessary to make Kenaston functional. I'm also not terribly thrilled with the idea that they may create a bunch of new access points to Kenaston...
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Old Posted Mar 28, 2023, 9:14 PM
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Let's not blame 300 Main's failures or cost overruns on poverty, addiction and crime.

They made their bed when they chose Ray Wan as the architect and their CEO's own company as the GC. Poverty, addiction, and crime didn't cause the budget overruns, blown timelines, and engineering issues (flooding, settling, etc.).
I said it was caused by cost over runs and the difficulty of construction in general.

Nothing to do with poverty , addiction and crime…

Poverty, addiction and crime are contributing factors to the lack of capital flowing into the core of the city in greater amounts.
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Old Posted Mar 29, 2023, 2:46 PM
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think construction is bad in city try building in the north if u can get a bid its through the roof and the workmanship is atrocious
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Old Posted Mar 29, 2023, 5:25 PM
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I am not sure exactly what this means, but apparently as part of the Federal 2023 budget, Winnipeg has won the rights to house the new headquarters for the Canada Water Agency. It has funding of $85.1 m over the next 5 years.
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^ Interesting!
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Maybe they go in the old NRC campus on Ellice? Pure speculation on my part.

Interestingly I noticed some type of NRC facility was recently constructed in Montreal.
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Old Posted Mar 29, 2023, 6:49 PM
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Maybe they go in the old NRC campus on Ellice? Pure speculation on my part.

Interestingly I noticed some type of NRC facility was recently constructed in Montreal.
From the Hansard two days ago:

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Ms. Leah Gazan:

With regard to the National Research Council buildings located at 435 and 445 Ellice Avenue, in Winnipeg, Manitoba, that were declared surplus in 2012: (a) where is the government in the process of selling these buildings; (b) are any federal employees still working at either building, and, if so, how many are working at each; (c) are there any non-federal government tenants who rent space in these buildings, and, if so, who are the tenants; (d) are there any non-federal government employees currently working in either building, and, if so, how many and who is their employer; (e) has there been any agreement reached with the Public Health Agency of Canada or the Manitoba Métis Federation and are there any other interested parties; and f) what is the current cost to maintain each of these buildings?

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Mr. Speaker, with regard to part (a), the Ellice Avenue property of National Research Council Canada, or NRC, was declared surplus in 2012, and the NRC began the process of selling the property in 2013. This process included consultation with indigenous communities and has involved various interested parties over the years. With the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic, in the spring of 2020, the Public Health Agency of Canada, or PHAC, identified new and urgent requirements for laboratory space and entered into a collaboration with the NRC on life science and pandemic-related work. This collaboration included work at the Ellice Avenue property. The NRC is committed to supporting the Government of Canada’s life sciences and biomanufacturing strategy, as well as pandemic response and preparedness. The past and current collaborations in support of the work of PHAC will be critical in achieving outcomes in these areas.
With regard to part (b), there are 71 federal employees working at 435 Ellice Avenue and 80 federal employees working at 445 Ellice Avenue.
With regard to part (c), the Winnipeg Regional Health Authority rents space at 435 Ellice Avenue.
With regard to part (d), there are 70 employees of the Winnipeg Regional Health Authority working at 435 Ellice Avenue.
With regard to part (e), given the new and ongoing government needs for laboratory facilities in Winnipeg, the NRC has decided to retain the property. The NRC continues to explore possible leasing arrangements for the office tower portion of the property.
With regard to part (f), in the 2021-22 fiscal year, the operating costs for the NRC properties at 435 and 445 Ellice Avenue totalled $1,585,992.
NRC is currently keeping the property. PHAC and WHRA are leasing portions of the space there, but it sounds like there is still room, particularly in the office building.
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Old Posted Mar 29, 2023, 6:56 PM
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Ah, thanks! Didn't realize people were working there again.
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I don’t think the Windsor has actually been sold.
Just spoke with the realtor. Conditions have been removed. It’s sold. He’s opaque as to the buyer and their plans.

Still digging…
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Old Posted Mar 30, 2023, 2:17 AM
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Rumour has it there is a 10 storey parkade being built in the near future. Just a block away from the lots in question. There's also numerous other parkades and a sea of surface parking nearby. I'm sure we'll be fine haha
Smith Street Parkade is for sale. 430 spots on 5 levels. $12,000,000 on 29,000ft2 of land.

Why would anyone build a parkade downtown when one can be purchased for less than $30,000.00 per stall!
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Oh man, the company I’m currently with replaced the all the lights at the Smith St parkade this time last year. That thing is in…questionable shape.
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Old Posted Mar 30, 2023, 4:40 AM
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Just spoke with the realtor. Conditions have been removed. It’s sold. He’s opaque as to the buyer and their plans.

Still digging…
Interesting. Let us know.
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Old Posted Mar 30, 2023, 4:43 AM
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I totally agree that there is no logical business case for building a stand alone downtown parkade.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Smith parkade is being sold to avoid expensive maintenance costs. Open air parkades have finite lifespans until significant investment is required.
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Old Posted Mar 30, 2023, 4:48 AM
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I am not sure exactly what this means, but apparently as part of the Federal 2023 budget, Winnipeg has won the rights to house the new headquarters for the Canada Water Agency. It has funding of $85.1 m over the next 5 years.

mkes sens to put them in a swamp

kiding aside the what? i work with water treating it
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Old Posted Mar 30, 2023, 1:02 PM
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Smith Street Parkade is for sale. 430 spots on 5 levels. $12,000,000 on 29,000ft2 of land.
Is the Smith Street Parkade that you are talking about the one across from the Marlborough?
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