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Old Posted Jul 5, 2022, 1:32 PM
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Old Posted Jul 5, 2022, 1:43 PM
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Mods, take down if you wish, but I think it's worth sharing because this is not a good look for the city we love. This happened during the fireworks show. I am not trying to argue or deflect or say "it happens everywhere", but more a reminder how important the next city election cycle is.

2 police officers injured during July 4th shooting on Ben Franklin Parkway released from hospital

https://6abc.com/philadelphia-july-4...icer/12019494/

Anyways, back on topic, all the picture looks great Tony!
Yep, I was in the middle of it. One of the scariest moments of my life. Pretty insane but it can happen anywhere nowadays. I hope everyone made it home safe and had an otherwise good fourth. Mayor Kenny’s press conference was absolutely abysmal. Evidently he felt the need to tell everyone he can’t wait to no longer be mayor. Great job publicly standing behind your officers that just narrowly avoided death.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 5, 2022, 1:53 PM
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Yeah, just another day in America. I think the mayor publicly acknowledging afterwards that he can't wait to not be mayor anymore was atrocious. The guy can't even pretend to care about the job.
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Yep, I was in the middle of it. One of the scariest moments of my life. Pretty insane but it can happen anywhere nowadays. I hope everyone made it home safe and had an otherwise good fourth. Mayor Kenny’s press conference was absolutely abysmal. Evidently he felt the need to tell everyone he can’t wait to no longer be mayor. Great job publicly standing behind your officers that just narrowly avoided death.
Hey now come on cut him some slack, since it was the 4th he was probably ten cocktails in by that time instead of his usual five
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Old Posted Jul 5, 2022, 2:13 PM
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Hey now come on cut him some slack, since it was the 4th he was probably ten cocktails in by that time instead of his usual five
Wouldn’t surprise me

Just to give you all some perspective, I’m here for 10 weeks over the summer and then will be moving here full time next year. The goal of this summer was to just get a feel for the city and make sure we like it while I work an internship here. I could have chosen any NE city to move to, but I chose Philly in large part because of its potential. I live in the more residential part of the Gayborhood, a historically pretty safe area. So far we’ve had a shooting directly outside our house following the South street shooting and now this Fourth of July madness. All I wanted was a relatively quiet summer to sell my girlfriend on the city lol. Either way I love it here and we both understand that while scary, we haven’t actually been in any immediate danger. It’s just frustrating because I know there’s people like me that want to love the city but just can’t get past the rough edges right now.
     
     
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Wouldn’t surprise me

Just to give you all some perspective, I’m here for 10 weeks over the summer and then will be moving here full time next year. The goal of this summer was to just get a feel for the city and make sure we like it while I work an internship here. I could have chosen any NE city to move to, but I chose Philly in large part because of its potential. I live in the more residential part of the Gayborhood, a historically pretty safe area. So far we’ve had a shooting directly outside our house following the South street shooting and now this Fourth of July madness. All I wanted was a relatively quiet summer to sell my girlfriend on the city lol. Either way I love it here and we both understand that while scary, we haven’t actually been in any immediate danger. It’s just frustrating because I know there’s people like me that want to love the city but just can’t get past the rough edges right now.
I’m in the same boat. When I moved here two years ago, crime wasn’t good but it wasn’t noticeably awful. Things really have taken a nose dive within the last nine months or so. Everyone is feeling it. My neighbor was mugged and sustained a severe brain injury a block away from me last week. I really love the city and at this point it’s useless to keep beating a dead horse, but something needs to change and it needs to change fast.

It does seem like leadership is starting to turn against one another. I know that sounds bad but it might start to create some change finally.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 5, 2022, 5:05 PM
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Really sad to see what happened last night (and in the Chicago area yesterday). This is a sad, sad country we live in that people can't even go to school, the grocery store, a concert or to a parade or fireworks show without fearing for their safety.

It's sad that there's nothing more American at this point than fireworks with a side of gunshots.

I really wish nobody would be shot or lose their life in the city we love, but hopefully the South Street incident and what happened last night, plus random shootings here and there in neighborhoods that don't typically deal with this level of crime, PLUS the unrelenting, out of control gun violence in less fortunate neighborhoods of the city is enough to finally spark some change in this city.

It needs to happen. We need to get crime and QOL issues under control immediately.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 5, 2022, 5:20 PM
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Domb and Green have already called for Kenney to resign. Sounds like there will be an investigation of Krasner with possible impeachment. Buckle up! It’s an interesting time in Philly politics!
     
     
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Hey on the bright side if this continues at least the visitors from third world countries will feel right at home during the World Cup games

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I’m in the same boat. When I moved here two years ago, crime wasn’t good but it wasn’t noticeably awful. Things really have taken a nose dive within the last nine months or so. Everyone is feeling it. My neighbor was mugged and sustained a severe brain injury a block away from me last week. I really love the city and at this point it’s useless to keep beating a dead horse, but something needs to change and it needs to change fast.
I heard about your neighbor and that was so awful.

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Domb and Green have already called for Kenney to resign. Sounds like there will be an investigation of Krasner with possible impeachment. Buckle up! It’s an interesting time in Philly politics!
This is my hope as well and unfortunately it takes extremes to see any real change. Philly is on the national and world stage and this simply cannot continue if we don't want to lose all of the progress made.
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Is there another set of townhomes going up in the nearby Gayborhood? Replacing a small parking garage I believe.
Ill have to check, I think there is a project of some sorts going on over there right now.
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Really sad to see what happened last night (and in the Chicago area yesterday). This is a sad, sad country we live in that people can't even go to school, the grocery store, a concert or to a parade or fireworks show without fearing for their safety.

It's sad that there's nothing more American at this point than fireworks with a side of gunshots.

I really wish nobody would be shot or lose their life in the city we love, but hopefully the South Street incident and what happened last night, plus random shootings here and there in neighborhoods that don't typically deal with this level of crime, PLUS the unrelenting, out of control gun violence in less fortunate neighborhoods of the city is enough to finally spark some change in this city.

It needs to happen. We need to get crime and QOL issues under control immediately.
It's been done before within my lifetime. Leadership just needs to have the will to do it again. It is unfortunate that the pendulum was allowed to swing back to the 70s in some respects.
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Hey on the bright side if this continues at least the visitors from third world countries will feel right at home during the World Cup games
hey Donald is that you?

I think you are all missing Kenny's point, I'll say it because he couldn't fuck the gop, fuck the nra, fuck the lying conservative justices. more guns aren't making us safer.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 5, 2022, 6:02 PM
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hey Donald is that you?

I think you are all missing Kenny's point, I'll say it because he couldn't fuck the gop, fuck the nra, fuck the lying conservative justices. more guns aren't making us safer.
Aaaand the rhetoric is in the gutter now.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 5, 2022, 6:08 PM
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Side note. If your concern is guns then you better make sure existing gun laws are being enforced and prosecuted under. Otherwise what’s the point for more?
     
     
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Is there another set of townhomes going up in the nearby Gayborhood? Replacing a small parking garage I believe.
Yes. 11th and Clinton. But I think they f'd something up with the foundation work, because they finished pouring the foundations a month or two ago and have since begun digging the concrete back out.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 5, 2022, 6:23 PM
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Yes. 11th and Clinton. But I think they f'd something up with the foundation work, because they finished pouring the foundations a month or two ago and have since begun digging the concrete back out.
Seems like there’s a lot of effed up projects lately. There’s the one on 15th and Vine that built over an adjacent building’s windows and then there’s another project on Green that almost caused an adjoining brownstone to collapse - they had to put out these huge braces. Maybe it’s a crew shortage or something.
     
     
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Side note. If your concern is guns then you better make sure existing gun laws are being enforced and prosecuted under. Otherwise what’s the point for more?
On the off chance you'd like to be informed on this topic, here's some information. There is no issue with prosecution in this city and the impeachment of Krasner is a partisan joke.

Nearly everyone charged with a crime in this city is persecuted. The problem is despite getting more and more funding, the cops in this city are terrible! Truly, I don't think you could assemble a greater array of incompetent losers. I mean look at this! Might as well just fire every last one of them and deputize the city's student hall monitors. Couldn't do any worse than this:



33 THOUSAND INCIDENTS AND LESS THAN 2000 ARRESTS! And you really think the problem is prosecution? It's honestly shocking there's not more crime in this city. The chances of getting caught are ridiculously low.

This shooting will actually be a great case study. The chances they catch anyone in a random non lethal shooting in this city is practically zero. So, If they arrest anyone for last night's shooting when someone shot some of their own, it'll be evidence that the reason for their complete ineptitude is more lack of care than just incompetence.

Side notes: Kenney is an absolute embarrassment and should resign immediately. And anyone who doesn't believe in much stricter gun control should not even discuss this topic because they're completely out of their depth. They should smile a nod approvingly everytime someone is shot because if you don't support stricter gun control at this point despite overwhelming evidence of its efficacy it can only be assumed that you want this to happen.
     
     
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^^^ yeah I saw that awhile ago. You got that from Krasner’s spokesperson’s Twitter profile presumably. The affidavits for arrests are usually dropped by the DA which is why incidents remain high.

Again, why do you keep engaging me when I’ve asked you not to? It’s getting weird buddy. There’s certainly a lot more controversial comments above. Lol

https://www.inquirer.com/news/philad...outputType=amp
     
     
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^^^ yeah I saw that awhile ago. You got that from Krasner’s spokesperson’s Twitter profile presumably. The affidavits for arrests are usually dropped by the DA which is why incidents remain high.

Again, why do you keep engaging me when I’ve asked you not to? It’s getting weird buddy. There’s certainly a lot more controversial comments above. Lol

https://www.inquirer.com/news/philad...outputType=amp
It's not so much engaging with you as making sure your blatantly wrong statements are refuted so you don't poison anyone else coming by here with your nonsense.
     
     
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On the off chance you'd like to be informed on this topic, here's some information. There is no issue with prosecution in this city and the impeachment of Krasner is a partisan joke.

Nearly everyone charged with a crime in this city is persecuted. The problem is despite getting more and more funding, the cops in this city are terrible! Truly, I don't think you could assemble a greater array of incompetent losers. I mean look at this! Might as well just fire every last one of them and deputize the city's student hall monitors. Couldn't do any worse than this:



33 THOUSAND INCIDENTS AND LESS THAN 2000 ARRESTS! And you really think the problem is prosecution? It's honestly shocking there's not more crime in this city. The chances of getting caught are ridiculously low.

This shooting will actually be a great case study. The chances they catch anyone in a random non lethal shooting in this city is practically zero. So, If they arrest anyone for last night's shooting when someone shot some of their own, it'll be evidence that the reason for their complete ineptitude is more lack of care than just incompetence.

Side notes: Kenney is an absolute embarrassment and should resign immediately. And anyone who doesn't believe in much stricter gun control should not even discuss this topic because they're completely out of their depth. They should smile a nod approvingly everytime someone is shot because if you don't support stricter gun control at this point despite overwhelming evidence of its efficacy it can only be assumed that you want this to happen.
Wow. I had no idea about those statistics. Although that doesn’t really provide the whole picture. I do wonder what the stats look like for other metrics (conviction rate, sentence versus projected sentence based on charged offense, etc.)

I’d really prefer if we could keep this civil. These discussions should be had, and I can’t bare to do it in the Philly subreddit because of the absolute doom and gloom hard on that some of those people have in there. Somebody tried to convince me that Rittenhouse wasn’t safe anymore, then I found that he lives in the burbs, and at that point I just figured this is a lost cause. Anyways, yeah it is really frustrating but I genuinely believe Philly can find its way out of this. Talking to some people that lived here through the 80’s and 90’s gave me some good perspective. Things are bad but they can and will get better.
     
     
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It's not so much engaging with you as making sure your blatantly wrong statements are refuted so you don't poison anyone else coming by here with your nonsense.
Lol, ok take it up with The Inquirer I guess…
     
     
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