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Old Posted Jan 9, 2022, 4:50 PM
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There is absolutely no way this is visible from the flyover
Perhaps he meant the bridge over the river?
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[QUOTE=Drcastro;9497371]A pedestal and a podium are basically the same
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Thanks Harry - I think this image alone highlights what's wrong with the building design: cold, incredibly bland, thoughtless, monolithic and a complete disregard of the historic view corridor highlighting five gems of Chicago architecture, now gone forever because of this monstrosity. They could have easily stepped the Michigan Ave facade back 20' to maintain the original view, while building a taller building (and even possibly commanding higher rents for top level apartments). I blame Magellan, Tom Kerwin, and to a lesser extend SB.


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Old Posted Jan 9, 2022, 7:55 PM
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I'm in the camp that likes this building. Yes it's a glass box but with a fair amount of nice, simple but effective details. The horizontal white bands contrasting especially noticeable black vertical lines between glass panes which are not just a perfect grid but varied in pattern. Furthermore, the construction looks "tight", sharp and crisp. Look at Solarwinds second picture on post #341 for example. That is a fricken tight corner and looks bad ass imho.

Finally, this building is kind of in a peculiar location as far as Michigan Ave goes. It is tucked away from the vast open space of Millenium park, fairly hidden from any type of full view like the other buildings facing Grant Park, etal. Michigan Ave is sort of broken into two parts divided by Wacker, a very robust and busy street. The block or so south of Wacker is a bit in no mans land. I would think people are either on the Mag Mile portion or the portion facing the parks.

I don't blame the developer one bit for choosing not to waste valuable resource doing some fancy pants design that no one will hardly see from the parks. And still, it's not bad at all. Very nicely constructed. And with all those operable windows on every floor, it could add an unexpected air of coolness to it in the summer months. Like little fins randomly jutting out of a wall of glass.
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great shot of the shadow from the Jeweler's Building cast upon the greyscale hotel party wall!
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With all due respect to HarryC, the light being cast from the west would be late light of dusk, not the early light of dawn!

New poster here. I am also in the camp that holds appreciation for this building. It adds a fresh look to the beautiful and historic cluster.

The angle in that Jan 7 photo looks to be from the middle of NB Michigan Ave. My guess is if you move onto the sidewalk, C&C will appear perfectly centered between 333 and 300 N Mich.
Good catch - ty !!
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With all due respect to HarryC, the light being cast from the west would be late light of dusk, not the early light of dawn!

New poster here. I am also in the camp that holds appreciation for this building. It adds a fresh look to the beautiful and historic cluster.

The angle in that Jan 7 photo looks to be from the middle of NB Michigan Ave. My guess is if you move onto the sidewalk, C&C will appear perfectly centered between 333 and 300 N Mich.
It's funny, even without thinking about east or west, I saw that pic and immediately thought "morning".

I've gotten so used to seeing where the sunlight falls on Chicago's skyline and being able to instantly know whether it is morning or evening, without having to even think about it.
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New poster here. I am also in the camp that holds appreciation for this building. It adds a fresh look to the beautiful and historic cluster.
welcome to the forum, but lol. fresh look? are you aware of BMO, BofA, WPE, WPS, OCS, Essex on the Park, 151 N Franklin, etc.? Right behind it are Vista and Aqua, which look like glass rectangles from many skyline angles.

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It's funny, even without thinking about east or west, I saw that pic and immediately thought "morning".

I've gotten so used to seeing where the sunlight falls on Chicago's skyline and being able to instantly know whether it is morning or evening, without having to even think about it.
but the photos are taken in the afternoon... are you mistaking dusk and dawn? or your own ability to recognize them?
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I would have wanted a more elaborate design but good for Chicago to get a new development!
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Its pretty plain looking, could have added at least some embellishment at the top.
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Now it is left to be seen if the low-rise buildings south of London House will make way for a building that equals 300 N.Michigan or will be the last possibility to break through that cluster and distinguish itself. I wonder when those low-rise buildings will give way. Granted it's a small parcel.
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welcome to the forum, but lol. fresh look? are you aware of BMO, BofA, WPE, WPS, OCS, Essex on the Park, 151 N Franklin, etc.? Right behind it are Vista and Aqua, which look like glass rectangles from many skyline angles.
i think many us who survived the trauma of the "river north beige" attack back in the '00s are still a bit too shell-shocked from the unrelenting onslaught of all of those monumentally ugly vertical turds to get too worked up about yet another glass box.
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Now it is left to be seen if the low-rise buildings south of London House will make way for a building that equals 300 N.Michigan or will be the last possibility to break through that cluster and distinguish itself. I wonder when those low-rise buildings will give way. Granted it's a small parcel.
That would be a pretty tight space to work in. Those parcels are irregularly shaped lots and would need to be set back from 320 S Michigan due to city fire code with the building's north facing windows. I don't think any development there could realistically be all that tall. And honestly, I wouldn't want something monolithic to be so close to the London Guarantee Building and overshadow it.

The best potential redevelopment plots in the immediate area would be the Seventeenth Church of Christ Scientist, which is not going anywhere anytime soon, or maybe the Hotel Monaco site on Wabash and Wacker, which currently occupies more than half the block when you include the garage entrance.
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i think many us who survived the trauma of the "river north beige" attack back in the '00s are still a bit too shell-shocked from the unrelenting onslaught of all of those monumentally ugly vertical turds to get too worked up about yet another glass box.
Yes, exactly! This is why I can't identify with all the "blue box" hate in many of the Chicago threads. Could these buildings be a bit more detailed and nuanced? Sure, absolutely. But they could also be much, much worse. I remember getting excited for crap like 1 Superior Place because... we had quite literally *nothing* else to even compare that too in terms of new development at the time. I remember really liking Millennium Center back in 2002 because it was reddish beige instead of regular beige
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I remember really liking Millennium Center back in 2002 because it was reddish beige instead of regular beige
Loved that gross fleshy color. It was very 1970s Miami.
They've since repainted it normal beige.
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Good mixture of old and new. Also think it plays nicely with Aqua and Vista and don't get all the hate!

to each their own.....
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Good mixture of old and new. Also think it plays nicely with Aqua and Vista and don't get all the hate!

to each their own.....
Agreed. Everything on the internet draws criticism.

This is pretty good and maybe just a little shy of great. It fills in the corner of the block, it has good height, there are some interesting details at ground level, it activates that intersection with more retail, it plays well with the neighbors, and it doesn't even block the Carbon and Carbide Building from most angles. I bet the views are fantastic, too.
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Agreed. Everything on the internet draws criticism.

This is pretty good and maybe just a little shy of great. It fills in the corner of the block, it has good height, there are some interesting details at ground level, it activates that intersection with more retail, it plays well with the neighbors, and it doesn't even block the Carbon and Carbide Building from most angles. I bet the views are fantastic, too.
I agree. The biggest loss is the Carbide building view from Michigan Ave and so that is very unfortunate. However nothing lasts forever in an evolving city.
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