noirish Los Angeles - Page 2878

Hollywood Graham · #**57541** Posted **Sep 17, 2021, 3:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by stanklem

FWIW, am an architect. Try hard not to comment on others designs.
This is an overwrought, over the top, out of scale, and out of context monster gussied up in some green to make it more palatable to approving entities. Am wondering if it is fancied as a locus and local home for PRC media influencers. In process of writing local community boards and City of LA Planning Department to express concerns.

The government admitted there may be aliens already here from outer space, this is obviously tangible proof that there is at least one here.

ethereal_reality · #**57542** Posted **Sep 17, 2021, 4:26 PM**

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Remember this from yesterday.

I just found two other Pasadena slides that were probably taken by the same person who took the mystery fort-like water tower slide.

All three are dated 1962 and are being sold by the same eBay seller.

The newly found slides lend credence to the . .um. .that the location of the water tower is indeed Pasadena, California.

"Pasadena, California, Castle Green Hotel and Cars in 1962, Kodachrome Slide"

eBay

"Pasadena, California, Street Scene and Cars in 1962, Kodachrome Slide"

eBay

I'll add that we're looking at Bullock's Pasadena. (it's not a very good photograph)

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Martin Pal · #**57543** Posted **Sep 17, 2021, 5:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by Hollywood Graham

The government admitted there may be aliens already here from outer space, this is obviously tangible proof that there is at least one here.

LOL! Well, it is from the same company that designed George Lucas' Star Wars looking museum near USC.

--My first thought is that it looked like an oven mitt.

--A lot of the building designs currently being proposed all have greenery. I'm not opposed to greenery, but my thoughts run to: Greenery needs water. Water is in lessening supply. Greenery draws insects or other pests. Do these new buildings come with gardeners.

--It would be across the street from this newish building: Emerson College.

Handsome Stranger · #**57544** Posted **Sep 17, 2021, 9:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by stanklem

FWIW, am an architect. Try hard not to comment on others designs.
This is an overwrought, over the top, out of scale, and out of context monster gussied up in some green to make it more palatable to approving entities.

Wholeheartedly agree. I also notice it's covered with lots of highly reflective surfaces. This is a fundamentally bad idea.

CaliNative · #**57545** Posted **Sep 18, 2021, 12:44 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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Remember this from yesterday.

I just found two other Pasadena slides that were probably taken by the same person who took the mystery fort-like water tower slide.

All three are dated 1962 and are being sold by the same eBay seller.

The newly found slides lend credence to the . .um. .that the location of the water tower is indeed Pasadena, California.

"Pasadena, California, Castle Green Hotel and Cars in 1962, Kodachrome Slide"

eBay

"Pasadena, California, Street Scene and Cars in 1962, Kodachrome Slide"

eBay

I'll add that we're looking at Bullock's Pasadena. (it's not a very good photograph)

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Those tail fins bring back memories (not all good): Drop ("duck and cover") drills in school. Smog alerts. Backyard incinerators. On hot summer days in the valley visits to Pacific Ocean Park ("POP") and Marineland. Downtown skyline dominated by City Hall, Richfield tower and the giant gasometers. Elvis. Koufax and Drysdale. Leave it to Beaver. My 3 Sons. The Mickey Mouse Club. Ed Sullivan and Bonanza on Sunday night etc.

odinthor · #**57546** Posted **Sep 18, 2021, 5:19 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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A mystery in Pasadena. (AKA..I've never seen this structure before)

Seller's description:...Pasadena, California, Water Tower and Cars in 1962, Kodachrome Slide

eBay

If it is a water tower why all the windows?

It occurred me that this might be a Pasadena in a different state but when you look at the surroundings it certainly looks like Pasadena California.

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Carmelita Park in Pasadena seems to have had a water tower . . .

LA Times, 11/25/1934

. . . but good luck seeing it under all the vines in this photo (it's at right, I guess) . . .

LA Times, 11/25/1934

ethereal_reality · #**57547** Posted **Sep 18, 2021, 4:09 PM**

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You found my water tower!

Thanks, odinthor.

It appears that Carmelita Park is now Carmelita Gardens and is home to on ramps and off ramps.

GSV

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Lwize · #**57548** Posted **Sep 18, 2021, 9:22 PM**

Who would put gardens amongst freeway on and off ramps?

Noir_Noir · #**57549** Posted **Sep 19, 2021, 3:55 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Seller's description:...Pasadena, California, Water Tower and Cars in 1962, Kodachrome Slide

eBay

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor

Carmelita Park in Pasadena seems to have had a water tower . . .

LA Times, 11/25/1934

I thought there would be more pictures to find online of this building.

It's unusual and "one of Pasadena's landmarks" according to the 1934 clipping.

Is this it in a 1962 aerial - same year as the Ebay picture?

mil.library.ucsb.edu

On the streets bordering Carmelita Park, I think this looks the most likely candidate.

In 1938 it's appears to be inside the park's bounds in the north west portion, tallying with odinthor's 1934 clipping.

mil.library.ucsb.edu

About here on a present day map.

Google Maps

ethereal_reality · #**57550** Posted **Sep 19, 2021, 3:44 PM**

Is that a house with two gables in the 1938 photograph?

Here's a closer look.

And what about the discarded lumber utility poles in the lower right corner.

or are they pipes?

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Mackerm · #**57551** Posted **Sep 20, 2021, 4:28 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

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A mystery in Pasadena. (AKA..I've never seen this structure before)

Seller's description:...Pasadena, California, Water Tower and Cars in 1962, Kodachrome Slide

eBay

This is the background of a photo of a Richard Serra sculpture called Base Plate Deflection: In It, On It which was installed at the Pasadena Art Museum (I've cropped out the sculpture itself). Was the sculpture installed before the museum was even built?

Norton Simon Museum

ethereal_reality · #**57552** Posted **Sep 20, 2021, 4:58 PM**

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Excellent, Mackerm, another photo of the elusive water tower. Believe me they are are few and far in between.

Here is some clarifying information.

Carmelita Gardens/Park, originally known simply as 'Carmelita', was the 42 acre property of Mrs. Jeanne Carr and Dr. Carr - 7 acres of which became the Norton Simon Museum property.

I found this interesting.

"Here are the Carrs at a rustic cabin that was on the property when they purchased it in 1880. They loved it so much they could never bring themselves to demolish it."

The Carrs are my kind of people.

The Carrs built a large home (which might have been a boarding house as well)

link coming

Later, the Carrs built a much more elaborate home which can be seen in an early Flyingwedge post. (the link is provided at the bottom of the post)

I need to research this more to go any further because I'm confused about the homes and where they stood on the property.

That said; I have no idea which home is visible in Noir Noir's 1938 aerial.

This local blog solved some of the mystery as recently as 2009 but it doesn't mention the unique water tower at all.

But a commenter does mention it.

pasadenapio

No one answered her question.

The Carrs are previously mentioned in two NLA posts from 2015.

Flyingwedge's post Here

And tovanger2' follow-up post Here

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Mstimc · #**57553** Posted **Sep 20, 2021, 6:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger

Wholeheartedly agree. I also notice it's covered with lots of highly reflective surfaces. This is a fundamentally bad idea.

I believe there's a building in Dallas (?) that has a slightly concave surface that catches and concentrates the sun's rays and has been known to melt rubber surfaces of parked cars.

HossC · #**57554** Posted **Sep 20, 2021, 6:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by Mstimc

I believe there's a building in Dallas (?) that has a slightly concave surface that catches and concentrates the sun's rays and has been known to melt rubber surfaces of parked cars.

That's certainly true of 20 Fenchurch Street AKA The Walkie Talkie in London. According to Wikipedia, the concave glass produced spot street-level temperatures up to 243 °F (117 °C) before they fitted awnings to the higher floors.

ethereal_reality · #**57555** Posted **Sep 20, 2021, 9:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by Bristolian

!907 Gardena

eBay

From what I have read about Moneta which eventually became part of Gardena, the early town center was at Western Ave. & 166th St. That would be my best guess as to the location of the postcard photo.

You answered a question I had back in 2016.

I was confused back then because this rppc was labeled thusly. . .

"1910 era RPPC Real Photo Postcard MONETA California Gardena Street Los Angeles"

eBay

At the time I looked for a "Gardena Street" but now I realize the seller was just mentioning that there was a "street" in the photograph. duh

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stanklem · #**57556** Posted **Sep 20, 2021, 9:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal

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Developers Propose a New Hollywood Office Tower
Location: Sunset Blvd. near Gower. A creation of MAD Architects, an architecture firm known for daring designs.
https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-09-16/hollywood-high-rise-office-with-rooftop-restaurant-planned

Quote from todays article in UrbanizeLA, the project is,
"Inspired by the curvilinear forms of the Griffith Observatory, Capitol Records Building, Hollywood Bowl, and the Cinerama Dome, it asserts a new typology for the office of the future."
They are really trying. Hardly much there for inspiration for a major office tower.

Another image.

Noir_Noir · #**57557** Posted **Sep 21, 2021, 12:47 AM**

Tower pictures ... which I completely missed first time around.

pasadenadigitalhistory.com

Two more at link.

Article from 1969 on the history and impending demolition of the tower -

pasadenadigitalhistory.com - New freeway route spells doom for a relic of Pasadena's past

ethereal_reality · #**57558** Posted **Sep 21, 2021, 6:28 PM**

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Here's what you would have seen if you were a bus passenger pulling up to the corner of to the S. Broadway and 3rd St. in 1972.

eBay

I'm not sure what's going on with the policemen and that van. It appears that one of them is writing a ticket.

Here's a closer look.

detail

Is that a paddy wagon?

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ethereal_reality · #**57559** Posted **Sep 21, 2021, 7:07 PM**

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Mystery location.

A handsome sailor poses by a car in Los Angeles.

eBay

I don't think we'll be able to solve this mystery location. .

. . but that sailor!

Here's a closer look at the home(?) at the end of the street.

detail

And the license plate.

in the far distance there is. .um. .something....

I showed this to a friend & they thought perhaps we're looking north from San Pedro.

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