Atlantic Station Thread II - Page 118

PhunkyPho · #**2341** Posted **May 1, 2021, 1:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by sunking1056

this is such bullshit

Actually, it's not. Businesses all over are struggling to find employees. Why work 8 to 10 hours a day when you can sit at home and get a check from Washington?

JMKeynes · #**2342** Posted **May 1, 2021, 1:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by PhunkyPho

Actually, it's not. Businesses all over are struggling to find employees. Why work 8 to 10 hours a day when you can sit at home and get a check from Washington?

That's true.

Ant131531 · #**2343** Posted **May 1, 2021, 3:06 PM**

Atlanta’s unemployment rate is 4.1%, which is only .3% higher than it was a year ago in March 2020 so I find it hard to believe construction labor shortages are because of unemployment checks. Ive been hearing about labor shortages for years now in the construction industry.

atlantaguy · #**2344** Posted **May 1, 2021, 3:50 PM**

If you have taxes withheld, Georgia unemployment is a max of $538 weekly. I can't see that as a huge deterrent to actually working.

PhunkyPho · #**2345** Posted **May 1, 2021, 3:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by atlantaguy

If you have taxes withheld, Georgia unemployment is a max of $538 weekly. I can't see that as a huge deterrent to actually working.

I can't speak specifically to the construction shortage. But, I can say that businesses are struggling to fill positions. That is fact. (editor's note: which is what DC wants.)

montydawg · #**2346** Posted **May 1, 2021, 4:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by atlantaguy

If you have taxes withheld, Georgia unemployment is a max of $538 weekly. I can't see that as a huge deterrent to actually working.

This is $27k per year. My brother manages a restaurant and says many of his former staff are just sitting at home collecting checks. He can’t find people to work shifts. The handout needs to end now.

Pemgin · #**2347** Posted **May 1, 2021, 4:37 PM**

I'd sit at home too if I had to work at a restaurant with customers who are covid skeptics/anti-vaxxers/anti-maskers who are rude and don't give a shit about restaurant workers' health.

ATLresident85 · #**2348** Posted **May 1, 2021, 6:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by Pemgin

I'd sit at home too if I had to work at a restaurant with customers who are covid skeptics/anti-vaxxers/anti-maskers who are rude and don't give a shit about restaurant workers' health.

Dumb comment. What about during flu season? Only about 50% of the population gets the flu shot. Definitely not a good reason to not work.

Pemgin · #**2349** Posted **May 1, 2021, 7:16 PM**

Covid is not the flu. It's a new and considerably more lethal disease. I wouldn't return to work until I received the vaccine, which is only now becoming available to everyone. I don't begrudge any restaurant worker staying at home until they've received it, especially since half the country appears to be unwilling to get it or even do the bare minimum to keep themselves and others safe.

ATLresident85 · #**2350** Posted **May 1, 2021, 7:21 PM**

They are transmitted the same, which is what I was referring to.

Pemgin · #**2351** Posted **May 1, 2021, 7:22 PM**

Okay, so what? That's irrelevant. Covid is much worse.

ATLresident85 · #**2352** Posted **May 1, 2021, 7:29 PM**

Not by much.

Pemgin · #**2353** Posted **May 1, 2021, 7:59 PM**

In the U.S., 2.1 million people have been hospitalized with COVID-19 and 571,000 people have died from it, according to the CDC.

During the 2019-2020 flu season, there were 400,000 hospitalizations and 22,000 deaths, again according to the CDC.

Like I said, much worse.

montydawg · #**2354** Posted **May 1, 2021, 8:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by Pemgin

Okay, so what? That's irrelevant. Covid is much worse.

Anyone over 16 can be vaccinated now, no excuse not to work

Pemgin · #**2355** Posted **May 1, 2021, 8:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by montydawg

Anyone over 16 can be vaccinated now, no excuse not to work

Right, like I said, it's only now becoming available to everyone, and you need at least a couple of weeks for it to become effective, so very soon people will be able to safely return to work. The idea that everyone is sitting on their ass not working because they're lazy or whatever isn't the situation. People are afraid for their health, and rightly so. If you work with the public, you'd understand.

Libertarian · #**2356** Posted **May 1, 2021, 9:46 PM**

My opinion FWIW: The proposed Biden reset on infrastructure should provide funds for WPA-style projects (cleanup and Beltline maintenance?) to get any and all able-bodied unemployeds out da crib and catching some fresh air every day rather than sitting around watching TV and getting fat. But of course that will never happen.
Hell I've been looking for $15/hour yard help myself and can't get it.

ATLMidcity · #**2357** Posted **May 2, 2021, 3:51 AM**

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Originally Posted by Libertarian

My opinion FWIW: The proposed Biden reset on infrastructure should provide funds for WPA-style projects (cleanup and Beltline maintenance?) to get any and all able-bodied unemployeds out da crib and catching some fresh air every day rather than sitting around watching TV and getting fat. But of course that will never happen.
Hell I've been looking for $15/hour yard help myself and can't get it.

Maybe the lack of interest has something to do with your proposed wage.

Or maybe you're just cheap, your yard is a mess, or your neighbors don't trust you with the kids...

Libertarian · #**2358** Posted **May 2, 2021, 10:18 AM**

I thought $15 was a living wage?

Street Advocate · #**2359** Posted **May 2, 2021, 6:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by Libertarian

I thought $15 was a living wage?

Depends on location, but generally no. $15/hr. (~$31k/yr.) is typically below the bar for a single person household and definitely below the bar for multiple people households.

Note: I’m only responding to the livable wage comment- didn’t really want to focus on other aspects of the previous discussion.

Libertarian · #**2360** Posted **May 2, 2021, 8:04 PM**

There's relatively low unemployment and yard helpers are not to be found at $15. Aren't certain groups advocating for a $15 minimum wage? Considering inflation should that figure not perhaps be moved upward and also adjusted for local-area cost of living? Or maybe I go without the yard worker, do it myself? More immigration?