Boise: 8th & Main Tower/Zions Bank Idaho HQ: 323' and 18 Floors - Page 60

ToysNoiz · #**1181** Posted **Oct 26, 2013, 12:05 AM**

......Oh my god. Well congrats, guys. More unnecessary work to be done on your new tower.

CaliforniaKid · #**1182** Posted **Oct 26, 2013, 2:14 AM**

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Originally Posted by BoiseAirport

BREAKING NEWS regarding spire.

From Twitter:

@IdahoStatesman: RT @IDS_SvenBerg: Gardner Co. will change 8th and Main spire after complaints it makes the building look like a Mormon building.

Smart move.. That spire was looking pretty creepy if you ask me. Looks like they already turned the lights off it..

CaliforniaKid · #**1183** Posted **Oct 26, 2013, 2:16 AM**

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Originally Posted by BoiseBMW

Bitch and ye shall receive.

Here is a small article about it.

http://www.ktvb.com/news/business/8th-and-Main-building-developers-to-change-spire-229318181.html

Not bitch.. Switch is what we are talking about here.. And fast please.

boisecynic · #**1184** Posted **Oct 26, 2013, 3:07 AM**

I don't want to say I called it. But I called it,

making the cladding more of a match with the rest of the building, i.e., blue glass. See post 1169.

Boiseguy · #**1185** Posted **Oct 26, 2013, 7:19 AM**

people are bitching about the spire looking like a mormon temple.. but never mind that it says ZIONS bank on it.. LOL...

I can understand people's feelings towards the lds church...they're kinda creepy and secretive with their money and use their money in very influential ways.. especially in the mountain west.. I get it... but it really didn't look THAT similar to a temple spire...and if so.. oh f*cking well.. they built a beautiful building that filled that damn hole.. would I bank there? absolutely not.. but I'll take the building without one single bitch!

taiva · #**1186** Posted **Oct 26, 2013, 7:29 AM**

Here's a quick idea of how it may look using the same color glass for the base. Would this look better?

Architecture Buff · #**1187** Posted **Oct 26, 2013, 8:01 AM**

AC Martin Architects idea for a spire on the Wilshire Grand in Los Angeles. A little bigger project at 1,100 feet and 73 floors. It will be the western US tallest when completed in 2017.

Architecture Buff · #**1188** Posted **Oct 26, 2013, 8:03 AM**

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Originally Posted by taiva

Here's a quick idea of how it may look using the same color glass for the base. Would this look better?

This might be spot on, but I would like a vertical rectangular base without the wedding cake step up look. Great job though.

Bob The Builder · #**1189** Posted **Oct 26, 2013, 7:25 PM**

I always thought the current spire looked lame. The first thing it made me think of was a LDS temple spire. I always thought that a dome/rounded top would look better, like the Safeco Building in Seattle. Below are a few pics is tossed together (I apologize I don't have the software to make this look great)

BoiseAirport · #**1190** Posted **Oct 26, 2013, 7:38 PM**

I'm very happy they're changing the spire. Not because it looks religious, but as boisecynic said the bright white materials clashed with the rest of the building and the rest of the skyline. Taiva's rendering looks so much better. Bob the Builder's idea is very interesting as well.

Sawtooth · #**1191** Posted **Oct 26, 2013, 9:38 PM**

Bwahaha, the spire.

arkhitektor · #**1192** Posted **Oct 26, 2013, 11:31 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoiseAirport

BREAKING NEWS regarding spire.

From Twitter:

@IdahoStatesman: RT @IDS_SvenBerg: Gardner Co. will change 8th and Main spire after complaints it makes the building look like a Mormon building.

I thought this was some kind of joke when I first saw it- I mean, really?

Imagine complaining that some other building looked 'too jewish' and being taken seriously...

CaliforniaKid · #**1193** Posted **Oct 27, 2013, 3:41 AM**

And here we finally got the final spire... Doh!!

Architecture Buff · #**1194** Posted **Oct 27, 2013, 5:23 PM**

Early Sunday sun rise, and the great lighting on 8th&Main Tower.

boisecynic · #**1195** Posted **Oct 27, 2013, 7:38 PM**

Funny Sawtooth.

I can't believe this hasn't come up anywhere yet. CCDC. Didn't CCDC get re-involved after totally divesting itself and subsidize this project? That means taxpayer money was used and you can see where this is going--- right?

Boise Weekly covers 94 thru 2005, the Rick Peterson era, here: http://www.boiseweekly.com/boise/timeline/Content?oid=925016

2010, March, CCDC seeks attorney fees from BTA: http://www.leagle.com/decision/in%20bco%2020100317611

Between BTA (Boise Tower Associates) and Zion's Bank/Gardner there was Charterhouse Properties and Gary Rogers and it was rebranded Boise Place.
http://www.hotel-online.com/News/PR2006_3rd/Sep06_BoiseTower.html

Digital trail running cold, give me time and I'll fill in the blanks between 2006 and 2012, i.e., Charterhouse and Gardner.

Statesman, Apr 8, 2009 reported:
... The deed was turned over to Capps Holdings LLC, the parent company of Robert Capps Homes, a Lake Tahoe, Calif., development company that foreclosed on the property after developer Gary D. Rogers' company, Charterhouse Boise Downtown Properties, defaulted on Capps' $2.5 million loan...

Statesman Jul 12, 2012 reported:
... The site was sold at a foreclosure auction in 2009. In July 2011, it sold again. Gardner Co. announced it had signed a contract to buy it. Ahlquist said he didn't want to repeat the mistakes of the previous developers and expected to build a small to midsize building. In September, Zions Bank and Gardner announced plans for a 15-story mixed-use tower...

EDIT: Still can't find any proof that CCDC subsidized Gardner, though I've heard they did from reliable sources.

SLC Projects · #**1196** Posted **Oct 27, 2013, 9:15 PM**

Really?? Because 3 people complained and some social media mentions? Honestly the spire doesn't look like anything LDS related, it looks like a white spire... on top of a high rise building... Since when does the LDS church have copywrite on white spires?

SLC Projects · #**1197** Posted **Oct 27, 2013, 9:17 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaKid

And here we finally got the final spire... Doh!!

Haven't you heard?, the top three levels of this building is really a LDS temple.

CaliforniaKid · #**1198** Posted **Oct 27, 2013, 9:28 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLC Projects

Haven't you heard?, the top three levels of this building is really a LDS temple.

Hmmm.. I kind of thought some of those workers up there the other day in their white underwear looked suspicious.

Sawtooth · #**1199** Posted **Oct 28, 2013, 6:03 AM**

Looking good on top of the Key Bank tower? yes? no??

boisecynic · #**1200** Posted **Oct 28, 2013, 2:06 PM**

How about this? The whitewater park pointer sign could be on a swivel and act as a wind vane. Or it could be stationary and point directly to the WW Park. With phase II of the WW Park imminent, what better way to advertise that this is Kayak City, USA? Of course, rafters, cata-rafters, canoeists, SUPers and tubers will complain, feeling that the kayak community enjoys too much influence for being a minority water sport. The City should be tolerant of all water sports and encourage a diversity of floaters.

Figures, top of new page.