2022 Ottawa Municipal Election

[RuralCitizen]

There was an interview on the radio this morning (on FM104.7).
Fleury said he was definitely interested, but hasn't made is decision yet. He needs to discuss with family before hand, and might announce his decision in the new year.

He felt now isn't the time to announce anything since Jim Watson's news is so fresh. Out of respect, other candidates should wait a little bit.

(my paraphrasing)

[waterloowarrior]

added Fleury - if anyone wants to change their vote PM me....

[daud]

@waterloowarrior. Thanks for creating the poll.

I did choose Diane Deans for reasons mentioned earlier but I'm ok with Catherine McKenney too. My first choice if they would have run would be Jeff Leiper though. I think he's among the best of the current council members.

[phil235]

Originally Posted by daud

@waterloowarrior. Thanks for creating the poll.

I did choose Diane Deans for reasons mentioned earlier but I'm ok with Catherine McKenney too. My first choice if they would have run would be Jeff Leiper though. I think he's among the best of the current council members.

Agreed, I wish Jeff Leiper would run, as he'd be my choice too.

[passwordisnt123]

I'm all in for McKenney. One of the rare breeds (in this town) of progressive, forward-thinking, consistent, urban councillors who doesn't carry water for NIMBYers at every turn.

I was really disappointed with Diane Deans' campaign announcement. It was so full of meaningless platitudes ("I want to unite this city", "we need to come together") that I could barely make it to the end. I have no time for that nonsense. It suggests what the rest of her campaign is going to look like.

[Proof Sheet]

Originally Posted by waterloowarrior

added Fleury - if anyone wants to change their vote PM me....

what about the single issue wingnut candidate. I.e save the manor park side yard setbacks.

[Truenorth00]

We need that data on how much developer funding councillors get.

[SkeggsEggs]

https://development.money/city-council-overview/

[Truenorth00]

Originally Posted by SkeggsEggs

https://development.money/city-council-overview/

Thank you.

McKenney - $0

My kinda politician.

Unfortunately, Tierney is my councillor. $26k.

Also, Dianne Dean's, the compromise candidate with $15k/53% of her donations from developers? LOL

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by RuralCitizen

There was an interview on the radio this morning (on FM104.7).
Fleury said he was definitely interested, but hasn't made is decision yet. He needs to discuss with family before hand, and might announce his decision in the new year.

He felt now isn't the time to announce anything since Jim Watson's news is so fresh. Out of respect, other candidates should wait a little bit.

(my paraphrasing)

Respect for letting Watson's announcement sink-in and taking the time to consider if he'll run or not. I thought the other three jumped the gun a bit too quickly. What's the rush?

[passwordisnt123]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

Respect for letting Watson's announcement sink-in and taking the time to consider if he'll run or not. I thought the other three jumped the gun a bit too quickly. What's the rush?

Regardless of rushed or not, quick or not, respectful or not, that isn't the reason he hasn't made an announcement. Just not how politics works.

[waterloowarrior]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

Respect for letting Watson's announcement sink-in and taking the time to consider if he'll run or not. I thought the other three jumped the gun a bit too quickly. What's the rush?

Likely they want to declare early to discourage other entrants... nominations don't actually open until May 2 and close August 19th, so plenty of time to withdraw or run in their ward instead if they don't feel they have the support.

[Williamoforange]

>Catherine McKenney (who like Deans has recently announced they're running for mayor) sees it as a "gift to TNEXT", ie. SNC-Lavalin.
Many councillors concerned about contamination cleanup costs.
Report goes to full council in the new year.

https://twitter.com/KatePorterCBC/status/1471895267096018946?s=20

Yeah, lets try not to elect someone be it deans or McKenney, that thinks that is an accurate statement... That the city buying land they already lease & use is equal to a gift to the maintainer of the infrastructure that will be onsite.

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-new...ne-depot-lands-in-6-4m-deal-with-cp-rail

[SkeggsEggs]

Originally Posted by Williamoforange

>Catherine McKenney (who like Deans has recently announced they're running for mayor) sees it as a "gift to TNEXT", ie. SNC-Lavalin.
Many councillors concerned about contamination cleanup costs.
Report goes to full council in the new year.

https://twitter.com/KatePorterCBC/status/1471895267096018946?s=20

Yeah, lets try not to elect someone be it deans or McKenney, that thinks that is an accurate statement... That the city buying land they already lease & use is equal to a gift to the maintainer of the infrastructure that will be onsite.

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-new...ne-depot-lands-in-6-4m-deal-with-cp-rail

From the article: "In a report to the committee, staff recommend buying 14.46 acres of CP Rail land, much of which the city currently leases at Walkley Yard. The city has leased 8.5 acres of land since 2001 and is using adjacent city-owned land, along with a small portion of acquired land, for the Stage 2 Trillium Line facility."

14.46 - 8.5 = 5.96 acres of CP Rail Land that the city is buying but not currently leasing.

If the "small portion of acquired land" is not on land currently being leased, I don't think the question is as outrageous or incompetent as you are attempting to portray it. Ultimately yes its unimportant in the grand scheme of things but they are just playing typical politics.


Idk about the full extent of McKenney's comments, but Deans' was a question, not a statement. Tweet before the one you linked:

"Is this a Christmas gift for SNC-Lavalin, or are they going to be paying us back?" asked Coun. Diane Deans of land purchase beside Walkley facility for Trillium Line.
#OttCity's Michael Morgan: Not a Christmas gift. Part of long-term lease expiring Dec 31, city has bldgs on it.

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by Williamoforange

>Catherine McKenney (who like Deans has recently announced they're running for mayor) sees it as a "gift to TNEXT", ie. SNC-Lavalin.
Many councillors concerned about contamination cleanup costs.
Report goes to full council in the new year.

https://twitter.com/KatePorterCBC/status/1471895267096018946?s=20

Yeah, lets try not to elect someone be it deans or McKenney, that thinks that is an accurate statement... That the city buying land they already lease & use is equal to a gift to the maintainer of the infrastructure that will be onsite.

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-new...ne-depot-lands-in-6-4m-deal-with-cp-rail

I agree with you there. This is about future proofing the Trillium Line, not gifting SNC.

[lrt's friend]

Originally Posted by Williamoforange

>Catherine McKenney (who like Deans has recently announced they're running for mayor) sees it as a "gift to TNEXT", ie. SNC-Lavalin.
Many councillors concerned about contamination cleanup costs.
Report goes to full council in the new year.

https://twitter.com/KatePorterCBC/status/1471895267096018946?s=20

Yeah, lets try not to elect someone be it deans or McKenney, that thinks that is an accurate statement... That the city buying land they already lease & use is equal to a gift to the maintainer of the infrastructure that will be onsite.

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-new...ne-depot-lands-in-6-4m-deal-with-cp-rail

It is way too early for me to favour any particular candidate but Diane Dean's has asked many pointed questions over the years . This question or comment clarified an issue that few were paying attention to. This helps the public to know what is going on, in this case, in her own ward. I do not believe that this should be criticized. Public spending is our business.

[Williamoforange]

Originally Posted by lrt's friend

It is way too early for me to favour any particular candidate but Diane Dean's has asked many pointed questions over the years . This question or comment clarified an issue that few were paying attention to. This helps the public to know what is going on, in this case, in her own ward. I do not believe that this should be criticized. Public spending is our business.

>Is this a Christmas gift for SNC-Lavalin, or are they going to be paying us back?

That was deans question among many more, and it was a loaded question (not pointed) that pre-assumed an answer. It is known that the city has "Ottawa's Official Plan Rights-of-Way Protection Policy" regarding buying rail land when it comes available, knowing this deans assumes it was a gift to tnext and would be just given to them.

While McKenney asked question of the same nature along with making direct comments that this purchase was a gift to transit-next/SNC (after Morgan made statements against such a comment, McKenney does that often). Then came out against the purchase as it stands (time 28:00)

As for contamination it looks like the city may have been required to remediate the lease site before handing it back (time 36:30).

[Truenorth00]

Guess that leaves Fleury as the sensible urbanist.

[passwordisnt123]

Fleury is certainly way better than Watson, that much is clear. But personally my definition of "sensible urbanism" doesn't include voting to give huge government subsidies to porche dealerships after the wealthy family that owns it donates to your campaign.

I also have a hard time recognizing Fleury as an urbanist under any sensible definition of the term considering his votes on the Civic Hospital plans.

[Truenorth00]

Good points. Ugggh. So hard to have a clean candidate who also isn't pushing conspiracies.