COVID 19 - local discussions

[kcantor]

This is what triage looks like even if/when you or someone you love does manage to get an ICU bed:

“In ICU Triage Team

“Role Description:

“The In ICU Triage Team has a key role during Phase 2 of Critical Care Triage for both adult and pediatric populations. During active triage a patient’s admission to ICU constitutes a trial of critical care only, and their eligibility for continued critical care will be reassessed daily.

“The In ICU team are responsible for application of the specific discontinuation criteria for patients receiving critical care. Critical Care Triage is in addition to current standards of practice whereby discussions may occur with families around withdrawal of life sustaining measures when clinically indicated.

“Triage decisions are team based. Decisions to discontinue critical care are not subject to consent or appeal.”

This is what triage looks like even if/when you or someone you love does manage to get an ICU bed:

“In ICU Triage Team

“Role Description:

“The In ICU Triage Team has a key role during Phase 2 of Critical Care Triage for both adult and pediatric populations. During active triage a patient’s admission to ICU constitutes a trial of critical care only, and their eligibility for continued critical care will be reassessed daily.

“The In ICU team are responsible for application of the specific discontinuation criteria for patients receiving critical care. Critical Care Triage is in addition to current standards of practice whereby discussions may occur with families around withdrawal of life sustaining measures when clinically indicated.

“Triage decisions are team based. Decisions to discontinue critical care are not subject to consent or appeal.”

Triage isn’t deciding who gets health care first. Triage is deciding who gets to die first.

If you haven’t already, just go get your damn vaccination or stay home and shut up.

https://www.albertahealthservices.ca/ass...wCugpy04Cp2sxZaNc95I6Bz8VBS9cBCkqy0j-g8s

[EdmTrekker]

Originally Posted by Drumbones2

Over 2000 new cases, that they know of, today. Ontario has committed to helping Alberta. Apparently trucks have already headed this way with equipment. Not used to seeing Ontario help us, or even recognize us as part of Canada.

Its bullshit politics driving the help...Ford to appease Kenny and help the UCP Conservative politicians. Neither Ford or Kenny will serve the the next election. Both may be kicked out or resign before the next election or face failure and humiliation at the hands of voters who have a long memory.

[Coldrsx]

Vaccine policy introduced for all City of Edmonton employees
September 20, 2021


The City of Edmonton is implementing a policy that requires all employees to be fully vaccinated against the COVID-19 virus by November 15, 2021.

“The health and safety of employees and Edmontonians is our top priority. We believe this is the right decision for our workforce, the right decision for protecting our community and the right decision for the health care system,” stated City Manager Andre Corbould.

The City of Edmonton recently introduced a vaccination disclosure policy to better understand how many employees had been vaccinated. The results of the disclosure as of the morning of September 13 were:
86 per cent of employees responded
72 per cent of employees indicated that they were fully vaccinated

“Information provided by our staff tells us that we need the additional control measure of vaccinations in our workplaces to minimize the serious hazard of COVID-19 to the greatest extent possible,” said Corbould. “We believe the vaccination policy, along with all of our other controls will provide a level of comfort and certainty.”

Physical distancing, capacity limits, pre-shift screening and indoor mask use are also essential in the response to COVID-19 and will continue in our workplaces.

Employees will need to have one dose by September 30 and two doses by October 31. This ensures that employees are fully vaccinated by November 15. Employees who are not fully vaccinated by November 15, 2021 will need to comply with ongoing COVID-19 rapid antigen testing up to twice per week at the employee’s own cost. If they do not register for testing they will be placed on a leave without pay.

The City will accommodate those employees who require an exemption from this policy on the basis of a protected legal ground, such as for medical or religious reasons.



For more information:
Employee Vaccination Policy

Media contact:
Lori Yanish
Account Director
Communications and Engagement
780-554-3763

[canucklehead2]

Originally Posted by EdmTrekker

Its bullshit politics driving the help...Ford to appease Kenny and help the UCP Conservative politicians. Neither Ford or Kenny will serve the the next election. Both may be kicked out or resign before the next election or face failure and humiliation at the hands of voters who have a long memory.

I've heard the call for an emergency leadership review within the UCP is growing louder by the day. And I think when 75% of all Albertans dislike you that's a good time to take a page from Pallister and "hit the ole dusty trail" as it were. Then maybe he could rip the price tags off his faux 10-gallon white hat and relaxed-fit jeans and rip a few donuts in that white F-150 he was supposed to drive. At least for those few weeks back in May of 2019...

[canucklehead2]

On the plus side, despite the document being open to extreme fraud by not being locked at least it was easy to download my COVID-vaccination record/notapassport passport. 10 seconds as long as you have your AHS # handy... Now if only it mattered...

[TimB09]

Originally Posted by canucklehead2

I've heard the call for an emergency leadership review within the UCP is growing louder by the day. And I think when 75% of all Albertans dislike you that's a good time to take a page from Pallister and "hit the ole dusty trail" as it were. Then maybe he could rip the price tags off his faux 10-gallon white hat and relaxed-fit jeans and rip a few donuts in that white F-150 he was supposed to drive. At least for those few weeks back in May of 2019...

Kenney is too arrogant that do that. He's here until 2023 unfortunately.

[Airboy]

Originally Posted by TimB09

Kenney is too arrogant that do that. He's here until 2023 unfortunately.

Yup its got to be a major revolt and I don't see that. the moderates are not going to do anything and the far right love the power they currently have. what happens in 2 years is besides the point. They don't care. a number already know they are going to get hammered so why change anything now.

But also why lead a party that may get kick out. the leader is the one that will be blamed.

[EdmTrekker]

Originally Posted by Airboy

Yup its got to be a major revolt and I don't see that. the moderates are not going to do anything and the far right love the power they currently have. what happens in 2 years is besides the point. They don't care. a number already know they are going to get hammered so why change anything now.

But also why lead a party that may get kick out. the leader is the one that will be blamed.

The party should throw him out - having him drag the health system down for wave 5, 6 and beyond is really too much. Kenney needs to go ... actually UCP needs to go ... NOW!!

[Drumbones2]

Something that bothers me. They say they are very much short of nurses and other help. I married an immigrant to Canada so I know a lot about how there are nurses everywhere but are unable to work here and their credentials are not recognized. You may have had a nurse or doctor hand you your coffee at Tim’s today. I’m friends with a couple who came here for a better life but were denied it. She was a head nurse of a major wing of a modern hospital in Iran and works as a waitress here. Her husband is a structural engineer, in Iran, but works as custodian at a hotel. Their main reason for leaving Iran was religious persecution as they are non muslim. Several people in my community that I know of are nurses working odd jobs. My brother in law is a Dr. With eight years of University plus ongoing update courses. If he moves here he’s a ditch digger so to speak. Some of these nurses do get jobs as caregivers with relatively low pay but that’s the lucky ones. Apparently it’s not only govt red tape and regs but also the strong unions that have helped to keep it this way. Think about it. I do, especially now when I hear the hospitals cries for help.

[Coldrsx]

Recognition of foreign degrees and professional experience continues to baffle me.

[DKaz]

If there are gaps in education, perhaps fast track courses at the insitutes of technology would be sufficient to get them up to speed on Canadian systems. There's no need to send them to school for two years where they would spend 75% of the time going through what they already know.

[Coldrsx]

Obviously there are differences country by country and some additional coursework will be required as well as testing/certification, but to not recognize things outright seems wasteful and obtuse in some circumstances. When it comes to life-safety more rigour is obviously required.

[Rocket252]

https://www.alberta.ca/foreign-qualification-recognition.aspx

[Drumbones2]

Ya, I looked at it. In other words if you don’t have a few years of time and lots of money plus an extreme dedication to red, white and blue tape, F off. Lol

[JSS1974]

Although Covid is a huge issue currently in Alberta, I still believe ucp has a good chance of another majority government in Alberta. Albertans also have short memories, and April 2023 is still a long ways away. Federally, the province is still majority blue, although with a sprinkling of liberal/ndp seats. However, blue is in the blood of Alberta, particularly rural and Calgary, representing 2/3 of the province - enough to get another recurring majority. Similar to Kenney, Klein was a right wing premier of Alberta, and was one of the longest serving premiers in Canada. Klein was successful, I'd say. Once Covid starts its downturn, Kenny can come out of this in decent shape, adopt a few little improvements, and he's on his way to another term.

[Black Star]

Imagine if there was a 99.8% chance you wouldn’t get Cancer, but you were forced to go on Chemo Just in Case....

[EdmTrekker]

Comparing chemotherapy to kill cells with cancer to being vaccinated to prevent covid is irrational (I am being kind). Chemotherapy is a treatment to kill cancerous cells already infecting someone and the other is vaccination help keep you from getting seriously ill even if you do get COVID, keep you from getting and spreading the virus that causes COVID and protect people around you, particularly people at increased risk for severe illness from COVID-19 who you are unaware may be at risk.

I am sure everyone posting here got a shot for polio, measles and chickenpox as a child and no one got polio, measles or chicken pox afterward.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/vaccine-benefits.html

[Glenco]

Originally Posted by Black Star

Imagine if there was a 99.8% chance you wouldn’t get Cancer, but you were forced to go on Chemo Just in Case....

If I were you I would remove this post to save yourself from extreme embarrassment. Remember it is better to one’s mouth shut and have everyone think you are a fool than speak up and remove all doubt.

[EdmTrekker]

Originally Posted by Glenco

If I were you I would remove this post to save yourself from extreme embarrassment. Remember it is better to one’s mouth shut and have everyone think you are a fool than speak up and remove all doubt.

The clock is running ... tic tok tic tok.

[Hardhatdan]

Originally Posted by Glenco

If I were you I would remove this post to save yourself from extreme embarrassment. Remember it is better to one’s mouth shut and have everyone think you are a fool than speak up and remove all doubt.

There's zero chance of that, he's proud of what he said.
Look at his posting history.