Veterans Memorial Parkway Extension to Clarke Road

[greenday99]

https://www.london.ca/residents/Roads-Tr...s/Documents/VMP%20PIC%20Presentation.pdf

Isn't the proposed partial Y interchange useless when there is an intersection just before the merge with stoplights? Without the stoplights, Vmp would be closer to being a full freeway.

[haljackey]

Originally Posted by greenday99

Isn't the proposed partial Y interchange useless when there is an intersection just before the merge with stoplights? Without the stoplights, Vmp would be closer to being a full freeway.

[Djeffery]

Originally Posted by greenday99

https://www.london.ca/residents/Roads-Tr...s/Documents/VMP%20PIC%20Presentation.pdf

Isn't the proposed partial Y interchange useless when there is an intersection just before the merge with stoplights? Without the stoplights, Vmp would be closer to being a full freeway.

What's the partial Y that you are talking about? The way it looks to me is you come down Clarke from the north and the road curves to the east at the point where the current entrance to Fanshawe Conservation area is. Then you hit that intersection and you either go straight through on VMP, turn left into the park, or turn right on to Clarke. The stoplights are only needed because the entrance to the park is there. If not for the park, VMP would just merge onto Clarke and they would add a left turn lane on southbound Clarke for people to go on VMP south. The stoplights do nothing to prevent VMP from being closer to a freeway, it's the lack of overpasses. What this is in effect doing is ending Clarke at this new intersection and VMP will be the through road. I actually think that down the road when the widening happens on Clarke (and presumably VMP is as well down to Oxford) that Clarke will be renamed VMP from Fanshawe Park Rd to the south.

People coming out of the park will be happy with this as it's a royal pain to make that left now. People used to going north on Clarke from south of Huron aren't going to like this at all though, and there is a lot of traffic from that way.

[greenday99]

Originally Posted by Djeffery

What's the partial Y that you are talking about? The way it looks to me is you come down Clarke from the north and the road curves to the east at the point where the current entrance to Fanshawe Conservation area is. Then you hit that intersection and you either go straight through on VMP, turn left into the park, or turn right on to Clarke. The stoplights are only needed because the entrance to the park is there. If not for the park, VMP would just merge onto Clarke and they would add a left turn lane on southbound Clarke for people to go on VMP south. The stoplights do nothing to prevent VMP from being closer to a freeway, it's the lack of overpasses. What this is in effect doing is ending Clarke at this new intersection and VMP will be the through road. I actually think that down the road when the widening happens on Clarke (and presumably VMP is as well down to Oxford) that Clarke will be renamed VMP from Fanshawe Park Rd to the south.

People coming out of the park will be happy with this as it's a royal pain to make that left now. People used to going north on Clarke from south of Huron aren't going to like this at all though, and there is a lot of traffic from that way.

I read that that was supposed to be a partial Y interchange at that intersection. I have a map of London and it says "proposed partial Y interchange" with the same layout of the rd's in the same location.

[greenday99]

Now I see there is no interchange. Clarke rd curves, then junctions with Vmp and they demolish part of existing Clarke rd.

[Djeffery]

Originally Posted by greenday99

I read that that was supposed to be a partial Y interchange at that intersection. I have a map of London and it says "proposed partial Y interchange" with the same layout of the rd's in the same location.

At one time, it was planned to go over Clarke as an overpass and end at Killaly Rd. Obviously, overpasses would be ideal, but I think this city has given up on that whole idea.

[greenday99]

Originally Posted by Djeffery

At one time, it was planned to go over Clarke as an overpass and end at Killaly Rd. Obviously, overpasses would be ideal, but I think this city has given up on that whole idea.

My map is from last year.

[Djeffery]

Originally Posted by greenday99

My map is from last year.

The map I saw was several years old I think, and I can't remember where it was I found it on the city site. Showed the overpasses all the way down VMP, as well as River, Tartan and maybe Admiral blocked off from crossing VMP. Also showed Sovereign Rd being extended north to Dundas to where the car dealerships are, and also crossing the tracks to join Cuddy Blvd through to Oxford.

[Dupcheck]

Use a two lane merge or they could also use a roundabout to keep the flow going.

No stop lights or stop signs please, it is stupid to do all this work and add a stop at the merging point.

I feel the choke point will still be after the merge at the two lane bridge, after the Fanshawe conservation entrance, with one lane on each way.

[jammer139]

If we could only get a north south road in the west end further west of Wonderland that connects points north of Fanshawe with 402.


Kilworth, Komoka, RiverBend, Warbler Woods are growing fast. Province, County and City need to start talking now.

[Djeffery]

Originally Posted by jammer139

If we could only get a north south road in the west end further west of Wonderland that connects points north of Fanshawe with 402.


Kilworth, Komoka, RiverBend, Warbler Woods are growing fast. Province, County and City need to start talking now.

I've posted before that I would love to see Westdel Bourne extended up to Gainsborough (not really that far when you look at it), and then add a ramp to the 402. I would also put a ramp from Westdel to the westbound 401, which considering they are right beside each other, shouldn't be too difficult. This would also require Westdel to be paved from wherever the pavement ends south of the 402. Ramp to eastbound isn't need if there is a ramp on to the 402. 402 is easy from northwest London if you want to go west on it, but trying to get to the 401 from up there is a nightmare.

[jammer139]

One step closer with tender award.


https://pub-london.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=71955

[Djeffery]

Seen a lot of trees at the entrance to Fanshawe Park removed over the last couple weeks to make way for the road realignment as part of this project.

[jammer139]

Heavy equipment now earth moving north of the VMP and Huron intersection. Clearing topsoil for new road bed construction.

[Djeffery]

Was told the other day that May 19 is the official start of the project, even though a lot seems to be going on already.

[Djeffery]

Sign up on VMP that the intersection of VMP and Huron will be closed starting May 19.

[haljackey]

Originally Posted by Djeffery

Sign up on VMP that the intersection of VMP and Huron will be closed starting May 19.

It's a 2-lane extension of what should have been a 4-lane free decades ago, but

[jammer139]

Now digging at Clarke Rd where the new intersection will be.

[jammer139]

Have shifted traffic on Clarke to west and have removed old pavement as they rejig the intersection into the conservation area. Most of the new VMP north of Huron appears to be graded now and awaiting final top coat of crushed stone before asphalt paving. Just need to finish the portion north from conservation area. Would assume they plan to install storm and sanitary sewers to serve the new neighbourhood being planned now by Sifton on East side. Of course they might not and it will all be dug up again once Sifton starts the site prep.

[Djeffery]

Or they may do those sewers when they do the widening of Clarke. I doubt we will see anything happen in relation to the subdivision within the next 5 years.