MacNab Square | ?m | 2 x 30 fl | Planning

#1 Posted **Sep 12, 2013, 4:23 AM**

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Dr Awesomesauce · #2 Posted **Sep 12, 2013, 12:34 PM**

I'm a bit dubious, it must be said.

What's with WB anyway? Do they not even consider public opinion? It's been known for weeks that building on Jackson was coming down. Had they mentioned something was brewing on the adjacent lot, I'm sure people would have been far more relaxed and perhaps even a little excited about the whole thing.

Won't even get in to the Gore...

Beedok · #3 Posted **Sep 12, 2013, 1:37 PM**

I really question Mr. Blanchard. If all of this gets built I'll be happy, but right now I trust Mr. Stinson to get something done more.

SteelTown · #4 Posted **Sep 12, 2013, 2:37 PM**

What's boxed in red is the current parking lot for the Gowlings, tenant of Bank of Montreal building.

So I'd imagine they have to build a parking structure first so Gowlings would have a place to park before anything can happen to what's highlighted in red.

KDP · #5 Posted **Sep 12, 2013, 5:24 PM**

After demolishing 20 Jackson, they should build 1 big underground parking that encompasses bith red and blue so that you don't need a parking structure, but can building something more useful on that space in the future.

CaptainKirk · #6 Posted **Sep 12, 2013, 7:06 PM**

The source info is from March 2012, and when I click on the tab labeled MILESTONES, an empty page appears.

ScreamingViking · #7 Posted **Sep 13, 2013, 6:59 AM**

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After demolishing 20 Jackson, they should build 1 big underground parking that encompasses bith red and blue so that you don't need a parking structure, but can building something more useful on that space in the future.

Underground parking? I am curious about the possibilities this concept may present

CaptainKirk · #8 Posted **Sep 13, 2013, 1:59 PM**

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Underground parking? I am curious about the possibilities this concept may present

Jackson Square's underground parking is nearby, with a ramp exiting right across the street from 25 Main St W at MacNab and King

KDP · #9 Posted **Sep 13, 2013, 4:00 PM**

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Jackson Square's underground parking is nearby, with a ramp exiting right across the street from 25 Main St W at MacNab and King

The article said that they wanted to build a parking garage on 20 Jackson, which is why I suggested the 1 big underground garage. Even if the jackson square one is right across the street, it sounds like their going to make a new garage anyways, so they may as well hide it.

KDP · #10 Posted **Sep 13, 2013, 4:02 PM**

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Underground parking? I am curious about the possibilities this concept may present

I Know! Revolutionary idea, isn't it.

ScreamingViking · #11 Posted **Sep 13, 2013, 7:38 PM**

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Jackson Square's underground parking is nearby, with a ramp exiting right across the street from 25 Main St W at MacNab and King

I was being sarcastic.

But quite right - there's a big example just across the block.

Preserving surface lots for downtown development must be cheaper for the developers, but the city should push them to dig down. If demand for development goes up, and land becomes more valuable, economics could eventually provide that push too but I think it's a ways off.

CaptainKirk · #12 Posted **Sep 13, 2013, 7:53 PM**

I like the idea of hiding any parking structure underground. The point of my Jackson Square comment was not well made. I meant to imply that any new underground parking lot at 20 Jackson W could be attached to Jackson Square's underground parking. One big underground parking network.

ScreamingViking · #13 Posted **Sep 13, 2013, 8:05 PM**

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I like the idea of hiding any parking structure underground. The point of my Jackson Square comment was not well made. I meant to imply that any new underground parking lot at 20 Jackson W could be attached to Jackson Square's underground parking. One big underground parking network.

If it's technically feasible that may not be a bad idea.

KDP · #14 Posted **Sep 13, 2013, 8:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by CaptainKirk

I like the idea of hiding any parking structure underground. The point of my Jackson Square comment was not well made. I meant to imply that any new underground parking lot at 20 Jackson W could be attached to Jackson Square's underground parking. One big underground parking network.

Does Jacksons Square garage actually extend that far? I thought it was JUST an exit ramp leading to main street.

durandy · #15 Posted **Sep 14, 2013, 12:04 AM**

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I really question Mr. Blanchard. If all of this gets built I'll be happy, but right now I trust Mr. Stinson to get something done more.

The thing about developers is they don't care what you think of them unless your name is the bank. They're not in the business of making urban enthusiasts happy.

Beedok · #16 Posted **Sep 14, 2013, 1:38 AM**

So? I'm allowed to complain. If I want to complain about Putin he wouldn't care, but I still can.

durandy · #17 Posted **Sep 14, 2013, 10:24 PM**

you're right, I didn't put that properly. What I was trying to say is that developers are in the business of making money - people can complain all they want about their product, but I'm more likely to think that people like Blanchard aren't making uncalculated risks. Stinson I'm not so sure about, but Blanchard you can bet has a plan.

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realcity · #19 Posted **Jun 8, 2015, 9:40 PM**

Amsterdamish... too bad we could use that for variety. Is that beside the Landed Bank on Main?

thistleclub · #20 Posted **Jun 8, 2015, 9:58 PM**

I think it's Gowlings. (The building represented would occupy the red square.)

The high-rise in the background resembles the east face of One James South, but (given the "MacNab Square" moniker) is likely intended to be the east face of 25 Main West.

Trying to untangle the layers of architectural "homage" going on in those renders. (The Will Alsop nod is the most obvious.)