Population Growth and Density of Ottawa-Gatineau - Page 2

reidjr · #21 Posted **Dec 15, 2009, 8:38 PM**

A sky line does not make a great city there are many factors.

Proof Sheet · #22 Posted **Dec 15, 2009, 8:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by waterloowarrior

One million here we come!

I'd love to know what Larry and Diane were thinking having to pose for these photos knowing how polar opposite they are to one another.

Jamaican-Phoenix · #23 Posted **Dec 15, 2009, 8:58 PM**

I just noticed... Our mayor isn't even at the forefront of the picture.

dennis1 · #24 Posted **Dec 20, 2009, 8:45 PM**

CMA=/=Metro area

dennis1 · #25 Posted **Dec 20, 2009, 8:47 PM**

If this definition is use

Renfrew CO
Stormont CO
Leeds CO
Lanark CO
Prescott CO

Then Ottawa has 1.7 million

anyone agree?

dennis1 · #26 Posted **Dec 20, 2009, 8:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by reidjr

A sky line does not make a great city there are many factors.

It makes the city look better, that's for sure.

Kitchissippi · #27 Posted **Dec 21, 2009, 4:15 AM**

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Originally Posted by dennis1

It makes the city look better, that's for sure.

From a distance, maybe, but not necessarily at street level.

AuxTown · #28 Posted **Dec 21, 2009, 6:51 AM**

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Originally Posted by Kitchissippi

From a distance, maybe, but not necessarily at street level.

Reference Houston and multiple other American centres with ridiculous skylines and terrible street-level interaction.

flar · #29 Posted **Dec 21, 2009, 5:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by dennis1

If this definition is use

Renfrew CO
Stormont CO
Leeds CO
Lanark CO
Prescott CO

Then Ottawa has 1.7 million

anyone agree?

Would including all the far flung towns and villages in those counties be an accurate reflection of Ottawa's population?

I don't think so.

Yroc · #30 Posted **Dec 24, 2009, 6:40 AM**

One of the attractive things about Ottawa is that is does not have that huge city feel.

If that means a 400K feeling with a population of 900K, then my hat is off to planners for making it feel like it does.

sgera · #31 Posted **Dec 26, 2009, 5:08 PM**

I'm born and raised in Ottawa and now live in Toronto..Ove the last two years, I've lived in two other Ontario cities: Toronto and London and I appreciate Ottawa so much more now that I'm not living here any longer. I now hope to settle back down in the city again in 5-10 years time....the quality of life in Ottawa in my opinion is so much higher than in Toronto or London for that matter. One of my friends describes ottawa as the 'little big city'...and i think that this title is very accurate...you get all the ameneties of a big metro and still have the small town feel...although in reality 'small town' feel is a bit decieving...because the metro area (Ottawa-Gatineau) is 1.2M and perhaps even upwards of 1.5M if you count some of the rural areas where upwards of 25% of their populatins work in Ottawa (which technically make it part of the metro based on Stats. Canada's definition of a CMA)..I imagine that some of these areas will be included in the CMA census in 2011.

The trick to ottawa is the greenbelt...you feel like it's a smaller city when you in the greenbelt...because...it is a densely populated area of about 550k...and then driving out 12-15km in any direction....(i.e. you leave the inner city)..toward the south, east or west direction...you've got a 5-10 mins drive on the highway with green surroundings (no build/urbanization)...before hitting the suburbs .......that's the trick to ottawa....it's the greenbelt....if you live in the burbs on the outside of the greenbelt...ottawa starts to feel a lot bigger because it is so spread out...kanata to orleans (west to east suburb) is almost 60km end to end....which is large even for Toronto standards....the commuting distance from the suburbs are comparable to other bigger metros....try driving from barhaven to orleans, or kanata to Gatineau...and tell me if you still feel Ottawa is 'small'....

Re: population sign...just drove in for the xmas holidays...and was disappointed to see the old 785k sign on the Hwy 416...guess that falls into the MTO's responsibility to update it? I still don't get why the NCC took down their population signs 5 years ago.....when the city amalgamated....they used to include the Gatineau portion of the metro (i.e. National Capital Region which is Ottawa-Gatineau)...ottawa may have a population of 900k as a standalone city..but this is not an indication of its true metro size which includes its sister city across the river...making it 1.2M including Gatineau...this may not bother many people...but in my opinion it is very important for ottawa to lose its 'small city' reputation...and get the new populatin signs up to show that we aren't a small city any more...it is very important for attracting business, especially in the high tech sector...my two cents..especially coming from Toronto where most people I meet still think Ottawa is a small town....

reidjr · #32 Posted **Dec 26, 2009, 6:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by sgera

I'm born and raised in Ottawa and now live in Toronto..Ove the last two years, I've lived in two other Ontario cities: Toronto and London and I appreciate Ottawa so much more now that I'm not living here any longer. I now hope to settle back down in the city again in 5-10 years time....the quality of life in Ottawa in my opinion is so much higher than in Toronto or London for that matter. One of my friends describes ottawa as the 'little big city'...and i think that this title is very accurate...you get all the ameneties of a big metro and still have the small town feel...although in reality 'small town' feel is a bit decieving...because the metro area (Ottawa-Gatineau) is 1.2M and perhaps even upwards of 1.5M if you count some of the rural areas where upwards of 25% of their populatins work in Ottawa (which technically make it part of the metro based on Stats. Canada's definition of a CMA)..I imagine that some of these areas will be included in the CMA census in 2011.

The trick to ottawa is the greenbelt...you feel like it's a smaller city when you in the greenbelt...because...it is a densely populated area of about 550k...and then driving out 12-15km in any direction....(i.e. you leave the inner city)..toward the south, east or west direction...you've got a 5-10 mins drive on the highway with green surroundings (no build/urbanization)...before hitting the suburbs .......that's the trick to ottawa....it's the greenbelt....if you live in the burbs on the outside of the greenbelt...ottawa starts to feel a lot bigger because it is so spread out...kanata to orleans (west to east suburb) is almost 60km end to end....which is large even for Toronto standards....the commuting distance from the suburbs are comparable to other bigger metros....try driving from barhaven to orleans, or kanata to Gatineau...and tell me if you still feel Ottawa is 'small'....

Re: population sign...just drove in for the xmas holidays...and was disappointed to see the old 785k sign on the Hwy 416...guess that falls into the MTO's responsibility to update it? I still don't get why the NCC took down their population signs 5 years ago.....when the city amalgamated....they used to include the Gatineau portion of the metro (i.e. National Capital Region which is Ottawa-Gatineau)...ottawa may have a population of 900k as a standalone city..but this is not an indication of its true metro size which includes its sister city across the river...making it 1.2M including Gatineau...this may not bother many people...but in my opinion it is very important for ottawa to lose its 'small city' reputation...and get the new populatin signs up to show that we aren't a small city any more...it is very important for attracting business, especially in the high tech sector...my two cents..especially coming from Toronto where most people I meet still think Ottawa is a small town....

I agree with everything you say you hit it right on the head.I get tired of comments such as ottawa is a small town.I don't think some people out side of ottawa and in some cases in ottawa know how big the city is getting you look at orleans for exzample then look at kanata and barrheaven this city is now a fair size and will only get bigger.Alslo with all the projects under way and proposed the city should start to get more of that big city feel.The other thing is ottawa gets a bad rap as beeing a boring city its not there is plnet to do more then enough.

Davis137 · #33 Posted **Dec 29, 2009, 1:06 PM**

Well, my parents think Ottawa is pretty big. Every time they come up here from Brantford, they forget that after they pass the Ottawa Sign on the 416, they still have another 30km's or more until they get past Hunt Club. If they came here at night, they'd see all of the lights from Manotick, Riveside South, and Nepean on the RHS of the highway. I haven't even shown them Orleans, Kanata, or Barhaven...just the main city, and parts of it, and they think it's pretty big. I think Ottawa is about the same size as Hamilton/Burlington combined...

Luker · #34 Posted **Dec 30, 2009, 5:45 AM**

Hamilton 600k + Burlington 150k =... About half a million short of ottawa population

eemy · #35 Posted **Dec 30, 2009, 12:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by Luker

Hamilton 600k + Burlington 150k =... About half a million short of ottawa population

Yes, but the combined population isn't far off Ottawa itself.

reidjr · #36 Posted **Dec 30, 2009, 1:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by jeremy_haak

Yes, but the combined population isn't far off Ottawa itself.

Not now but ottawa is growing more and more with a new major houseing devlopment in kanata/stittsville etc the population could be up a fair amount with in the enxt 5-10 years.

Ottawan · #37 Posted **Dec 31, 2009, 5:51 AM**

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sgera · #38 Posted **Dec 31, 2009, 5:45 PM**

unfortunately, part of the reason (in my opinion), that people outside ottawa feel that Otown is a small city....is a product of what Ottawa's residents portray.......people in Ottawa do not have a big city mentality and don't represent the city well from that aspect...many residents often play down the size of the city or agree with out of towners that the city is 'boring'...I see it all the time.....most don't realize that it is quite the opposite (in fact ...perhaps there is much more to do in Ottawa than in some of the bigger metros with all the outdoor wonders that we are blessed to have -i.e. gatineau hills, rideau canal, waterways).

Now compare Ottawa's reputation to that of Calgary....a city where the residents, are entrepeneurial and talk the big talk...Calgary is roughly the same Metro population as Ottawa (around 1.2M)....everyone from that city has a big city attitude...and if you'd ask most people in towns across Canada...they'd probably tell you that Calagary is bigger than Ottawa, and that there is more to do there....in essence my point being that it is very much a product of how residents portray their own city that gives it its reputation.

Calgary: 'big little city'
Ottawa: 'little big city'

Ryersonian · #39 Posted **Dec 31, 2009, 6:13 PM**

You guys are great; reading all the opinion always helps me form my own...

For me Ottawa is 500k the region is 1.4 Million...and yes Ottawa is a 'little big city' illustrated by the hydro poles, development opportunities that still exist throughout the City and small town mentality of many of the long time residents.

I truly believe we are on the brink of the biggest change this City will ever go through....In five years the change will be huge....In ten years we won't even recognize this place...If we can take the ever present frustration and cut some of the dead weight holding us back we can have something to be proud of sooner then later.

I am a realist, but I've decided to get into 2010 with some optimism! Think about it if by some fluke we get Lebreton, The Escarpment, Bayview, Lansdowne, Transit, more towers and continued gentrification of some urban neighbourhoods we'll be looking pretty sharp!

I know some of you will blah blah...council....blah blah landsdowne and transit...blah blah...hydro poles, but really this is all possible.

RTWAP · #40 Posted **Jan 3, 2010, 6:31 AM**

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Originally Posted by Ryersonian

You guys are great; reading all the opinion always helps me form my own...

For me Ottawa is 500k the region is 1.4 Million...and yes Ottawa is a 'little big city' illustrated by the hydro poles, development opportunities that still exist throughout the City and small town mentality of many of the long time residents.

I truly believe we are on the brink of the biggest change this City will ever go through....In five years the change will be huge....In ten years we won't even recognize this place...If we can take the ever present frustration and cut some of the dead weight holding us back we can have something to be proud of sooner then later.

I am a realist, but I've decided to get into 2010 with some optimism! Think about it if by some fluke we get Lebreton, The Escarpment, Bayview, Lansdowne, Transit, more towers and continued gentrification of some urban neighbourhoods we'll be looking pretty sharp!

I know some of you will blah blah...council....blah blah landsdowne and transit...blah blah...hydro poles, but really this is all possible.

Me too. I'm very hopeful. Some of that hope is based on an expected improvement at Mayor, but most of it comes from decisions and policies already being acted upon.