CHICAGO | General Developments - v2.0

[k1052]

Originally Posted by Randomguy34

There's now a pending permit for the Backbeat Hotel at 3255-57 N. Halsted St. Chicago's midrise boom continues.


https://backbeathotel.com/

Figured this and Tryst up the street were waiting until all the summer festivities along Halsted were done for this year.

[catb]

Originally Posted by Randomguy34

Speaking of Bronzeville, this seems to be the only neighborhood in the entire city that's still building new greystones. Here's a new 4-flat proposed for 419 E. 50th St, presented at the April Permit Review committee. Certainly a big reason is that many blocks in Bronzeville are landmark districts, so buildings have to match the architectural character of the block. But surely it can't be that expensive to use limestone cladding for the facade, right?

Also for anyone curious, here's the company that's sourcing the limestone: https://www.readingrock.com/custom-cast-stone






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-wTvkg0KUw

This is so beautiful. Perfect infill for Chicago. Hopefully we can get more limestone throughout the city. I sometimes see creative infill in Bucktown/Wicker Park, but often new build three-flat designs are flat and boring.

[left of center]

Originally Posted by sentinel

^^Looks nice, but I really do not understand this desire to look backwards than forward. That design is already dated

RandomGuy did mention that the development is likely located in a landmark district, and thus probably had to adhere to strict design rules.

That said, I think it looks great. The design is less "dated" than it is "timeless", IMHO.

[Jstange059]

Permit should be issued
I’ve been waiting for so long to see this building rise

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by Jstange059

I’ve been waiting for so long to see this building rise

Ditto.

I live a couple blocks away, and can't wait to see that ugly-ass vacant lot bite the dust.


Fantastic news!!

It's been so long, what's the unit count on this one?

[dewbs]

Proposal for 4531 N Clark:


9 condos, 10 parking spaces.

Interesting to note that the existing zoning allows for 8 units and a building of the same height, but the proposed zoning change (from C1-2 to C1-3) would allow for one more unit, more parking spaces and more floor area. Because this building would be under 10 units, the city's affordable requirements ordinance (ARO) does not apply and the ward office cannot require them of the developer.

Ald. Clay's office is planning an online community meeting to discuss the proposal at 6 PM on August 27. Clark Street Neighbors Association is the local block club for this proposal.

Replacing this:

[twister244]

As someone who has only lived in the Chicago since 2021..... Is this level of low/mid rise (4-7) story development common across the years? Or this reflective of a trend to build more in the city than was the case before Covid?

I ask as I am still super interested in the trend of Chicago real estate. We continue to buck national trends, and I can't think it's just due to local governance/policy as that has always been there.

The unit next to me (Logan Sq / Bucktown) just sold about $100k above what I paid for my unit in February 2022 - That seems to reflect something going on here that I haven't quite picked up on yet - Other than Chicago is an amazing fucking city and maybe people are suddenly realizing this.......

[sentinel]

Originally Posted by twister244

As someone who has only lived in the Chicago since 2021..... Is this level of low/mid rise (4-7) story development common across the years? Or this reflective of a trend to build more in the city than was the case before Covid?

I ask as I am still super interested in the trend of Chicago real estate. We continue to buck national trends, and I can't think it's just due to local governance/policy as that has always been there.

The unit next to me (Logan Sq / Bucktown) just sold about $100k above what I paid for my unit in February 2022 - That seems to reflect something going on here that I haven't quite picked up on yet - Other than Chicago is an amazing fucking city and maybe people are suddenly realizing this.......

I've lived here almost my entire life, and I feel strongly that this 4-7 story infill trend is pretty recent, and thankfully, growing like crazy! It's pretty wild seeing so much new quality housing infill in gap areas all around the city.

And yeah, I think it's a combination of post-Covid realities, current national political climate and affordability that is making a LOT of people from outside the area wake up to what Chicago offers (ignore all of the recent tornados!!)

The newer terminology is still slightly nebulous to me, but would these type of structures be defined as "missing middle" housing, or is that primarily defined as single-family, 2 or 3-flats?

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by sentinel

The newer terminology is still slightly nebulous to me, but would these type of structures be defined as "missing middle" housing, or is that primarily defined as single-family, 2 or 3-flats?

"Missing middle housing" doesn't have an official OED definition, but it's most commonly used to refer to any housing that's between a detached SFH and a full-on apartment building.

The line between small-scale MFH (like flats) and a full-on apartment buildings can be nebulous, but in the case of Chicago, I think an upper limit of 9 units makes sense, because that's the point at which a lot of our local rules change regarding MFH.

Pretty much all of these infill mid-rises starting to line the arterials all over town are 10+ units, so i would exclude them from "missing middle", which is a term much more aligned with our city's legions of flat buildings.

But it doesn't much matter what we call any of it; I say bring it on! Bring it all on!!!

High-rises, mid-rises, 3-flats, whatever..... let's build more MFH!

[sentinel]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

"Missing middle housing" doesn't have an official OED definition, but it's most commonly used to refer to any housing that's between a detached SFH and a full-on apartment building.

The line between small-scale MFH (like flats) and a full-on apartment buildings can be nebulous, but in the case of Chicago, I think an upper limit of 9 units makes sense, because that's the point at which a lot of our local rules change regarding MFH.

Pretty much all of these infill mid-rises starting to line the arterials all over town are 10+ units, so i would exude them from "missing middle", which is a term much more aligned with our city's legions of flat buildings.

But it doesn't much matter what we call any of it; I say bring it on! Bring it all on!!!

High-rises, mid-risess, 3-flats, whatever..... let's build more MFH!

Thanks for the explanation, which absolutely makes sense. And yeah, gimme everything.

[left of center]

Originally Posted by twister244

As someone who has only lived in the Chicago since 2021..... Is this level of low/mid rise (4-7) story development common across the years? Or this reflective of a trend to build more in the city than was the case before Covid?

I ask as I am still super interested in the trend of Chicago real estate. We continue to buck national trends, and I can't think it's just due to local governance/policy as that has always been there.

The unit next to me (Logan Sq / Bucktown) just sold about $100k above what I paid for my unit in February 2022 - That seems to reflect something going on here that I haven't quite picked up on yet - Other than Chicago is an amazing fucking city and maybe people are suddenly realizing this.......

Its funny, I just made a post remarking on this trend as well maybe a week or two ago. As a life long Chicagoan who has been following building trends in the city for some time, it really does feel that the 4 to 7 story building trend really took off after Covid. We were always seeing neighborhood infill of course, but it was mostly relegated to 4 floors or less outside of a few outliers here and there. I am happy to see us building even denser now, and hope that this trend continues. We desperately need more housing in this city, and God knows we have plenty of vacant and underutilized land to do it on.

LFG!