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For sure. Forget however money was blown on this whole thing so far, we're gonna get sued!

For a fiscal Conservative, he sure loves to waste money on dumb stuff like this, the Conservative Blue license plates, no longer charging for license plates, cutting the gas tax, killing cap-and-trade.
You forgot the elusive 'buck a beer' and the ability to drink in tailgating parties...societal game changers as far as most of us should be concerned

Last night, I was behind a car at night and those blue license plates are basically impossible to read the #'s from the rear. How can that have been missed.
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Another one bites the dust!

Ontario Labour Minister Monte McNaughton leaving government for private sector

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/monte-mcnaughton-resignation-1.6975088
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For sure. Forget however money was blown on this whole thing so far, we're gonna get sued!

For a fiscal Conservative, he sure loves to waste money on dumb stuff like this, the Conservative Blue license plates, no longer charging for license plates, cutting the gas tax, killing cap-and-trade.
Never saw Doug as a fiscal Conservative. He goes where the winds of suburban voters blow him.
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Never saw Doug as a fiscal Conservative. He goes where the winds of suburban voters blow him.
He tries to sell himself that way, as a fiscally responsible leader.
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After the announcement of Canada getting the Defence Bank, Doug Ford the Premier of Toronto said.

"As our nation’s financial capital, with a skilled workforce and unparalleled global connectivity, there’s no better place for the bank to be headquartered than Toronto," said Ford.

If he were the Premier of Ontario he would have expressed support for the Bank going anywhere suitable in Ontario rather than pick winners and losers in the competition for said Bank.

Perhaps he is playing pork barrel politics by promoting the area where his electoral strength and riding is. If Carney does the same, then Ottawa will be the winner because it is the Feds that will decide.
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I don't think Ottawa is the best candidate. But I will agree that the Premier shouldn't be playing favourites.
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After the announcement of Canada getting the Defence Bank, Doug Ford the Premier of Toronto said.

"As our nation’s financial capital, with a skilled workforce and unparalleled global connectivity, there’s no better place for the bank to be headquartered than Toronto," said Ford.

If he were the Premier of Ontario he would have expressed support for the Bank going anywhere suitable in Ontario rather than pick winners and losers in the competition for said Bank.

Perhaps he is playing pork barrel politics by promoting the area where his electoral strength and riding is. If Carney does the same, then Ottawa will be the winner because it is the Feds that will decide.
Can't stand Ford and his blatant preferential treatment. His opinion shouldn't matter. I trust people like Jean-Chrétien, who backs Ottawa, far more.
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The Ottawa Citizen roundly criticizes Doug Ford for not treating Ottawa and Toronto equally in the quest for the Defence Bank. Mentions some other grievances too.

https://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/doug-ford-defence-bank
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At this point I’d rather that Montreal gets it just to spite Toronto.
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At this point I’d rather that Montreal gets it just to spite Toronto.
Yeah. Same. Anyone one but Toronto at this point.
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Yeah. Same. Anyone one but Toronto at this point.
I resent how Toronto is both the financial and political capital of the province so that almost everywhere else in the province is ignored. (The notable exception is SWO recently.)
In many other states and provinces, those 2 capitals are 2 different cities.

Ps: Regarding Montreal, even in the event of separation, as long as PQ government and EU negotiate well, I don’t see separation being an issue.
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Doug Ford just threw Ottawa under the bus | Opinion

Mohammed Adam: The premier favouring Toronto to host a multinational defence bank reinforces the belief that the capital is an afterthought at Queen's Park.

Author of the article:By Mohammed Adam
Published May 27, 2026


Premier Doug Ford’s unqualified support for Toronto’s bid to host a multinational defence bank is a slap in the face of the City of Ottawa, which also wants the new bank in the capital to secure new jobs and alleviate the effects of federal job cuts.

Even knowing that Ottawa is also in the running, the premier said recently that Toronto “is the only city” in Canada capable of hosting the multinational bank. What is Ottawa, chopped liver?

The comments clearly undermine Mayor Mark Sutcliffe’s efforts to bring the bank and associated jobs to Ottawa. The federal government is planning to shed some 30,000 jobs in the public service, and Ottawa is expected to bear the brunt of the cuts. And as part of his plan to cushion the impact, Sutcliffe is hoping to draw the bank and its projected 3,500 new jobs to the city.

The international defence bank — formally called the Defence, Security and Resilience Bank (DSRB) — is being set up to provide long-term, low-cost financing for defence and security projects for NATO members and partners. Canadian cities, including Montreal and Vancouver, are also chasing the bank.

In such a big competition with so much at stake — and two Ontario cities chasing the same prize — Ford should not be taking sides. He should have sat this one out and left it to the mayors to make their case. Ford may believe that as the centre of Canada’s financial industry, Toronto is the best place for the bank. But that argument is for Toronto Mayor Olivia Chow to make, not the premier — just as Sutcliffe could also argue that Ottawa, the seat of the federal government, embassies and the national defence establishment, is uniquely suited for the bank.

Ford is the premier of Ontario — all of Ontario — and he should be even-handed in dealing with every part of the province. The premier’s intervention in favour of Toronto reinforces the belief, particularly among Ottawa residents, that the capital is often an afterthought at Queen’s Park. Whether it is funding for transit, homelessness and housing, Ottawa often gets shortchanged compared to Toronto. In 2023, Sutcliffe questioned why Toronto was getting 60 times more funding for homelessness than Ottawa.

“We recently learned that Ottawa will receive $845,100 of this (homelessness) funding while Toronto will receive $48 million. That’s almost 60 times as much, despite Toronto’s population being approximately three times larger than Ottawa,” Sutcliffe said in a letter to Ford at the time. Then a report from the provincial financial watchdog, the Financial Accountability Office, revealed that Toronto gets more money per capita for transit than Ottawa. In 2022/23, Toronto received $191 per resident in transit funding, while Ottawa got $59.61. That gap was projected to grow in 2024/25, with Toronto getting $196.49, while Ottawa’s share decreased to $31.91.

In the midst of all this, Sutcliffe launched the “Fairness for Ottawa” campaign to secure money from the province and the feds, saying Ottawa taxpayers were being shortchanged. And now this?

Consider this: If you are a decision-maker on the location of the bank, and you hear the premier of a province where two cities are vying for the right to host the bank say that only one of them can do the job, how much consideration would you give the other city?

Some may argue that the premier is merely trying to boost Toronto’s chances against what may be stiff competition from the other cities. But Ford shouldn’t undermine Ottawa to boost Toronto. Why not champion both cities?

No question Ford has thrown Ottawa under the bus on this one.

https://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/doug-ford-defence-bank
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^ Well yeah, not too surprising considering the only reason Ford ran for provincial office was that he wanted to run Toronto and lost his mayoral race. Yet people keep voting for him.
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^ Well yeah, not too surprising considering the only reason Ford ran for provincial office was that he wanted to run Toronto and lost his mayoral race. Yet people keep voting for him.
You're signature is absolutely fitting for what you are commenting on.

Jeeeez.

I gotta say. I don't very much care for that Ford guy. Just another disingenuous self serving narcissist if you ask me.
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^ Well yeah, not too surprising considering the only reason Ford ran for provincial office was that he wanted to run Toronto and lost his mayoral race. Yet people keep voting for him.
Toronto has dealt with a good chunk of Premiers who weren't from the GTA recently and actively hostile to it at one point. Mike Harris particularly comes to mind. Not surprising that an unapologetic Torontonian gets elected. But really even there, it's the unique dynamic of 905ers electing Ford to impose on a more left leaning 416. In the last election, the PCPO only got 32% of vote share and 11 of 25 seats in the 416. They won 29 of 30 905 seats with nearly 41% vote share.
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Toronto has dealt with a good chunk of Premiers who weren't from the GTA recently and actively hostile to it at one point. Mike Harris particularly comes to mind. Not surprising that an unapologetic Torontonian gets elected. But really even there, it's the unique dynamic of 905ers electing Ford to impose on a more left leaning 416. In the last election, the PCPO only got 32% of vote share and 11 of 25 seats in the 416. They won 29 of 30 905 seats with nearly 41% vote share.
Harris was hostile to the entire Province. Guy was by far the worst Premier we've ever had.
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Harris was hostile to the entire Province. Guy was by far the worst Premier we've ever had.
Nowhere else did he fill in a subway with concrete.
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Nowhere else did he fill in a subway with concrete.
There were no other subways to fill with concrete.

In Ottawa, his focus was closing hospitals, successfully shuttering two and dragging a third through a long court battle until he admitted defeat. I'm sure he closed hospitals in Toronto as well. I'm just not as familiar with that.
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In any event, since Harris there's be a strong sense that politicians from elsewhere hate Toronto. A bit like how Ottawans feel today (not unjustifiably). And given the population balance has only been worse since, it's all but impossible to win without running in the GTA and catering to it. Bizarrely though. You can hate on Toronto if catering to the 905. That's acceptable.

I personally think everything Kingston and West, down to Windsor and Niagara Falls and South of Gravenhurst should be another province. Their urbanization and their economies are very different from Eastern Ontario and even outside the GTA still determined by their relationship with the GTA.
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In any event, since Harris there's be a strong sense that politicians from elsewhere hate Toronto. A bit like how Ottawans feel today (not unjustifiably). And given the population balance has only been worse since, it's all but impossible to win without running in the GTA and catering to it. Bizarrely though. You can hate on Toronto if catering to the 905. That's acceptable.

I personally think everything Kingston and West, down to Windsor and Niagara Falls and South of Gravenhurst should be another province. Their urbanization and their economies are very different from Eastern Ontario and even outside the GTA still determined by their relationship with the GTA.
Should we start a movement to separate from Ontario. Separation movements seem to be the fashion these days.
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