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Old Posted Feb 27, 2014, 4:16 AM
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Areas that you wish were redeveloped

This may sound similar to previous thread about anticipated developments, but while that one was more about actual proposals under construction or recently announced that you were looking forward to, this one is about areas you wish were redeveloped but have no plans currently announced.

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Have you ever driven by a parcel of land and though "what a waste of prime land" or seen a building and thought "they need to tear that shit down soon". This is where we can discuss that! Also, add what you would like to see built there in it's place!

1.) 11th ave and 14st SW

That 1960's style mall that seems to be only open during Halloween time for costumes, but is closed for the other 11 months of the year. What a waste of land. Driving by it makes it seem like you are in a rundown part of town. I would love to see a highrise condo put in it's place with a nice podium with lots of retail at the bottom. While they are at it, they can get rid of that parking lot beside it too...

2.) "The Fitness Centre" on 12th ave and 12th street??

With Oslo behind it, and Stella overshadowing it to the east. I can't believe that's been sitting vacant for so long.

3.) that small vacant spot beside "Kuzina" on 17th ave.

With the push to develop east on 17th ave, let's not forget that there are still parts of 17th ave that are left. Does anyone know why that spot has just been sitting there forever? I'd love to see something with the similar scale to Kuzina or 80th and Ivy in it's spot. Such an eyesore.


That's all I can think of for now. I'll post more when I can think of more

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Old Posted Feb 27, 2014, 4:30 AM
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Westbrook. I would love to see it become a high end TOD with pedestrian focused retail and residential projects similar to those being built in East Village.

West Village. We really need to see that area redeveloped and get rid of the bus depot and car lots there.
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Those are great choices, but those have already been announced and even though they are a long ways away, there is a plan for those areas in the long term.

I was referring more to some overlooked areas that are not often talked about on this forum that have no current plans, but you wish would go away,

Another example for me would be the Old Blockbuster site in Kensington. Something similar to Lido would be great at that spot.
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Most of the main vacant parcels are already accounted for, so it's a tough call. I for sure second that 17th ave and 11th street parcel, as well as 1st sw.

Also like to see most of the Eau-Claire lots and the lots along the tracks fill up. Calgary will fill like a really big city once this happens.
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I would like the Bridges phase 2 and 3 to build out fully.
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the old science center should be a theatre or some sort of art/music location.
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The giant parking lots at Anderson and the lots on the east side of Macleod at Canyon Meadows LRT. Also the strip mall / big boxes on the east side of Macleod at Chinook. Such wasted space at the moment.
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16th Ave between Crowchild and Deerfoot should be something special, not what it is.
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Damn I agree with all of these picks. How about the those two big lots in vic park, the ones where ClubSport and First South are proposed. Might be in the works, but not sure how serious either of these two developers are in actually building.
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All the lots between 4th and 8th along 9th ave and 10th across the tracks.
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Fire Park, Burnsland, Highfield, and Manchester.
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All the lots between 4th and 8th along 9th ave and 10th across the tracks.
I always wondered if this wasn't prime real-estate to develop an intercity / regional / intermodal hub?
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Damn I agree with all of these picks. How about the those two big lots in vic park, the ones where ClubSport and First South are proposed. Might be in the works, but not sure how serious either of these two developers are in actually building.
I don't think First South is happening anymore? Such a shame, cause that would have been awesome

EDIT- There is a project in vancouver called Paramount place that I love. That would be perfect where First South was going to be. 4-5 levels of Retail with 450 residential units on top which I think what the city wanted. Every time I see Paramount place it makes me drool

http://bosaproperties.com/projects/p...n-vancouver-bc

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I don't think First South is happening anymore? Such a shame, cause that would have been awesome

EDIT- There is a project in vancouver called Paramount place that I love. That would be perfect where First South was going to be. 4-5 levels of Retail with 450 residential units on top which I think what the city wanted. Every time I see Paramount place it makes me drool

http://bosaproperties.com/projects/p...n-vancouver-bc
I would love to see a large downtown movie-theatre complex built First South. Like a real big-city one you described. Chinook doesn't have to be the centre of the world for movies night. Movie theatres would add a huge bump in activity as they can attract large crowds at odd times in the evening.

What I would like to see in addition to that, is a few St John's- sized developments up 4th Street NW, Centre and Edmonton Tr. While I am very excited about the inner city growth that is happening, I really want to see the density growth push out farther into the burbs.

TOD growth along the NW and South Line would also be exciting. Imagine if Chinook actually reflected it's popularity and destination? There would be 30 condo blocks in that area. People can't seem to get enough of it.
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I don't think First South is happening anymore? Such a shame, cause that would have been awesome

EDIT- There is a project in vancouver called Paramount place that I love. That would be perfect where First South was going to be. 4-5 levels of Retail with 450 residential units on top which I think what the city wanted. Every time I see Paramount place it makes me drool

http://bosaproperties.com/projects/p...n-vancouver-bc
IIRC the reason that first south was rejected by the city was precisely because it didn't have the residential element that paramount place has.
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IIRC the reason that first south was rejected by the city was precisely because it didn't have the residential element that paramount place has.
So now what? Are they going to come back with a new proposal that includes residential or is that project dead??
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16th Ave between Crowchild and Deerfoot should be something special, not what it is.
This, in-particular Center & 16th some of the best transit service in the city and yet we have a vacant lot on one corner and some low rise commercial (possibly even partially vacant) on another. Not to mention the slightly sketchy nature of some of the other establishments on that corner.
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This, in-particular Center & 16th some of the best transit service in the city and yet we have a vacant lot on one corner and some low rise commercial (possibly even partially vacant) on another. Not to mention the slightly sketchy nature of some of the other establishments on that corner.
After watching a good chunk of the properties on the south side of 16th Ave be expropriated to make room for widening the Trans Canada Highway though the city, the property owners along Centre St are likely waiting to see who loses how much of their land for the necessary widening to accommodate the new LRT line (unless it uses Edmonton Trail instead, or tunnels under Centre St from downtown to 24th Ave).

No sense in doing major property improvements here if it will just be knocked over later this decade.

Its surprising to me how much property on the south side of 16th between SAIT and Deerfoot still hasn't been redeveloped after the street widening was finished.
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After watching a good chunk of the properties on the south side of 16th Ave be expropriated to make room for widening the Trans Canada Highway though the city, the property owners along Centre St are likely waiting to see who loses how much of their land for the necessary widening to accommodate the new LRT line (unless it uses Edmonton Trail instead, or tunnels under Centre St from downtown to 24th Ave).

No sense in doing major property improvements here if it will just be knocked over later this decade.

Its surprising to me how much property on the south side of 16th between SAIT and Deerfoot still hasn't been redeveloped after the street widening was finished.
Yeah, I don't think the widening of 16th was worth the cost and impact, if the outside lanes are converted to dedicated transit ROW, then we'll see value for the expansion, but 99% of the time that road does not need 6 lanes from Deerfoot to 14th.

I truly hope that they decide to go underground to at least 24th possibly as far as McKnight (given that you'd have to trench and elevate from 30th to McKnight at minimum). I highly doubt that Edmonton trail will work given the Green Line plan and the existing plan for 2nd st on the SE leg. I could see 1 St NW being a fairly ideal ROW until the area around 40th.
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There has already been a lot of good sites placed under development that I would have picked - the two masive parking lots north of Shaw downtown, West Village finally starting, and densification of Kensington.

But there's two specific areas that I think could greatly benefit from master plan developments:

1) Bowness/Montgommery - both along Boness road, and to a more limited extent along 16th avenue there's a lot of potential. Much like Mission, Kensington or Bridgeland this is an older neighbourhood with a lot of character and unique shop that is really starting to look its age. Lining Bowness road's length with 4-6 story condos with a retail podium could result in a lot of densification, and make an already fairly walkable area very attractive to redevelopment. Bonus points are that it could tie into Bowness park and the river.

2) McMahon Stadium - our Football Stadium is almost a much in need of being redone as our Hockey Stadium. And given that they're now owned by the same group there's a huge opportunity here. There's enough land between the parking lot beside Crowchild and the existing stadium to errect both a new football stadium and new hockey stadium. Potentially in the same complex.

The existing lot could be removed and a 4-5 story underground parkade put in to serve both for game parking, LRT parking, and the other sports facilities in that complex. The stadiums could then be built atop that parkade and the current football space (possibly with a second parkade off University Drive beneath). This would also provide a golden opportunity to remove the lighted intersection with Motel Village for an overpass and paired service roads on each side of Crowchild.


3) Continuing from above would be the 16th avenue redevelopment. There's a lot of potential from Crowchild Trail to Deerfoot as others have pointed out. Motel Village is slowly improving, and hopefully that will continue east. However, this will likely stall until the North Central LRT is resolved.




Additionally, the idea of a 16th avenue LRT could actually be extended to run all the way from Valley Ridge in the far west, past COP, through a redevloped Bowness past the developments at West Campus, Stadium Shopping Center and Foothills Hospital, and finally the redeveloped Stadiums itself (which lets be honest could use two stations in the area) then tie into the length of a 16th Avenue redevelopment as a streetcar or subway.

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I truly hope that they decide to go underground to at least 24th possibly as far as McKnight (given that you'd have to trench and elevate from 30th to McKnight at minimum).
Hopefully more transit options will increase usage, but Center Street simply by its nature will always have a lot of car traffic, so I would think this to be essentially a necessity.

I was stunned when I first saw the proposals even suggesting that it go aboveground at all, let alone before 24th Avenue. Traffic definitely decreases the farther north you get (fairly quiet after McKnight honestly), but around 16 the delay on Center would make it impossible to move, let alone the implications of trains blocking 16th for preiods of time.


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I would love to see a large downtown movie-theatre complex built First South. Like a real big-city one you described. Chinook doesn't have to be the centre of the world for movies night. Movie theatres would add a huge bump in activity as they can attract large crowds at odd times in the evening.
Totally agree there should be downtown theater(s) again. The East Village I'm honestly surprised doesn't include one.

Related question - does anyone know why they shut down the old theaters in Banker's Hall in the late 90s?
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