Claridge Moon [340 Queen St] | 84.4 m (x2) | 27 fl (x2) | U/C - Page 35

J.OT13 · #**681** Posted **Mar 5, 2024, 3:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by Fraser

That Appletree site has to be redeveloped soon, right? It’s the only site left in that shot. It could hold a nice, slim, 31-storey.

In general though, we need we need some varied height in scattered in there, particularly in the background.

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Originally Posted by Harley613

Why 31 stories? Why not 40, 50, 60? Moon and Releve bring cachet to this strip, there are no height restrictions, it's a single tower sized lot...

Well, we have to be realistic here.

M+M could see that 38 was pushing it for what will now be the Renaissance Marriott.

Minto owns the entire "L" formed by the Apple Tree clinic (Credit Bureau Building is its official name) and the two adjacent parking lots.

Some history: https://urbsite.blogspot.com/2014/05...-and-hull.html

Hopefully Minto is thinking about how to develop this land and propose a couple tall (for Ottawa) and slim towers.

Fraser · #**682** Posted **Mar 5, 2024, 4:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by Harley613

Why 31 stories? Why not 40, 50, 60? Moon and Releve bring cachet to this strip, there are no height restrictions, it's a single tower sized lot...

Hey, I’m all for more height - I just know how this story goes (pun intended!)

MainStreeter · #**683** Posted **Mar 5, 2024, 7:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by J.OT13

Well, we have to be realistic here.

M+M could see that 38 was pushing it for what will now be the Renaissance Marriott.

Minto owns the entire "L" formed by the Apple Tree clinic (Credit Bureau Building is its official name) and the two adjacent parking lots.

Some history: https://urbsite.blogspot.com/2014/05...-and-hull.html

Hopefully Minto is thinking about how to develop this land and propose a couple tall (for Ottawa) and slim towers.

Ownership for the three parcels you reference confrim Minto does not own them, selling 2 of the parking lots in 2014 to an entity controlled by Walter Boyce. I believe the same family whom owns the, now former, Kristy's restaurant lands at 809 Richmond Rd. west, which is currently a parking lot for LRT construction, but once listed for multi-residential development.

J.OT13 · #**684** Posted **Mar 5, 2024, 7:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by MainStreeter

Ownership for the three parcels you reference confrim Minto does not own them, selling 2 of the parking lots in 2014 to an entity controlled by Walter Boyce. I believe the same family whom owns the, now former, Kristy's restaurant lands at 809 Richmond Rd. west, which is currently a parking lot for LRT construction, but once listed for multi-residential development.

Darn. My info's outdated I guess.

So Minto still owns the Apple Tree Clinic building?

MainStreeter · #**685** Posted **Mar 5, 2024, 8:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by J.OT13

Darn. My info's outdated I guess.

So Minto still owns the Apple Tree Clinic building?

Negative, same owner as other two parcels (different entity).

J.OT13 · #**686** Posted **Mar 5, 2024, 8:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by MainStreeter

Negative, same owner as other two parcels (different entity).

Very disappointing. Would have been nice to get a Minto quality modern residential project here.

originalmuffins · #**687** Posted **Mar 6, 2024, 5:26 AM**

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Originally Posted by DTcrawler

I like the accent lighting, I think Ottawa as a whole needs a lot more of it, especially on commercial buildings. I'm actually pretty shocked Claridge's bean counters allowed it through the value engineering stage.

The number of blank west-facing walls in Harley's pic is staggering and quite unfortunate.

I agree. We need more buildings with it. I hope they can swing it with Renaissance Marriott.

originalmuffins · #**688** Posted **Mar 6, 2024, 5:28 AM**

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Originally Posted by MainStreeter

Negative, same owner as other two parcels (different entity).

Maybe they'll sell. The parking lot and Alterna did get us the 3 towers at 400 Slater. One slim but tall 40 story on the Appletree lot would be amazing. It would do wonders for the skyline with the Renaissance, Dream Towers, and Lebreton East's 55 story tower.

urbanforest · #**689** Posted **Mar 9, 2024, 2:56 PM**

They’ve got a tacky new sign up on the southeast corner.

J.OT13 · #**690** Posted **Mar 9, 2024, 3:04 PM**

Didn't even notice it on Thursday. They love to plaster their brand all over.

ServiceGuy · #**691** Posted **Mar 10, 2024, 1:13 AM**

Still better than looking at a bunch of undeveloped commercial space right at the transit way and main downtown intersection. Interesting that the signage doesn't say "for lease" at all which implies Metro is actually moving in here at some point.

J.OT13 · #**692** Posted **Apr 10, 2024, 8:12 PM**

They put scaffolding back up along the Lyon façade from about the south corner to about past the first bus shelter, and over the bus shelter.

Harley613 · #**693** Posted **Apr 10, 2024, 8:47 PM**

A grocery store here would print money.

acottawa · #**694** Posted **Apr 11, 2024, 3:28 AM**

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Originally Posted by Harley613

A grocery store here would print money.

The question might be whether a store there would take business from other stores they own. People there now probably go to the Farm Boy on Metcalfe or the Farm Boy at the Rideau Centre.

zzptichka · #**695** Posted **Apr 11, 2024, 3:56 AM**

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Zero progress on the retail space in 4 months:

ponyboycurtis · #**696** Posted **Apr 11, 2024, 9:57 PM**

The only difference i see here is one of those sweet turbo fans from princess auto.. those things are the tits for doing mud/paintwork. 45 bocks dude!

shame they leave it all tipped over like that.

Marshsparrow · #**697** Posted **Apr 11, 2024, 11:25 PM**

It's going to be a Shoppers or Rexall...

J.OT13 · #**698** Posted **Apr 12, 2024, 1:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by acottawa

The question might be whether a store there would take business from other stores they own. People there now probably go to the Farm Boy on Metcalfe or the Farm Boy at the Rideau Centre.

Farm Boy is owned by Sobeys, so if this is a Metro, they won't be taking away from their own business.

In any case, from what I know, the Rideau Farm Boy is barely a Farm Boy. It was mostly established for the commuter crowd who might want to grab a meal to go for lunch. If anyone has been, please feel free to correct me.

Grocery stores don't seem shy building a bunch of new mega locations in the suburbs, sometimes quite close to an existing store of the same brand (Fallingbrook and it's two Metros, for example).

Downtown/Centretown's dense and car-lite built form is begging for at least one more full service store. The 20 minute walk to Farm Boy and 15 minute walk to Massine's is less than ideal for the thousands of residents of the Escarpment District.

urbanforest · #**699** Posted **Apr 12, 2024, 2:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by J.OT13

Farm Boy is owned by Sobeys, so if this is a Metro, they won't be taking away from their own business.

In any case, from what I know, the Rideau Farm Boy is barely a Farm Boy. It was mostly established for the commuter crowd who might want to grab a meal to go for lunch. If anyone has been, please feel free to correct me.

The Rideau Farm Boy is indeed commuter oriented, but you may be surprised by the volume of shopping that people do there, far beyond picking up something for lunch or maybe dinner. Another location here could theoretically cut into their sales at Metcalfe, but I think it could be supported.