Deerfoot Trail / Glenmore Trail Interchange

[dmuzika]

Originally Posted by Joborule

It's possible that they may replace the idea of having 22X be the main entrance for the south with 560/Glenmore instead. As you said, it would probably be cheaper, and satisfy the purpose of a southern freeway for the region.

Originally Posted by North_Regina_Boy

I would say that is possible, however even if Glenmore become totally "free-flow" the industrial area to the east of Stoney trail might limit that route. However the trucks could go north to the existing TCH and the province could build interchanges / fly-overs between the east edge of Calgary and Chestermere.

OR

The TCH could have a bypass called 1A and go south from Glenmore to 22X and upgrade 22X to a limited access highway east through to connect to the existing TCH at Gleichen.

However option 1 is MUCH cheaper. I am however proud that the Prov of Alberta made it possible for trucks to get around Calgary without having to slow down to more than 70km/h in ideal conditions. Same with Edmonton

If it was ever done, TCH 1 could follow Glenmore Trail & reconnect with the current west alignment via either Stoney Trail or Sarcee Trail. Usually bypasses don't get the 'A' suffex, so 16 Ave could become Hwy 1A (east of Crowchild Trail) while the current Hwy 1A along 17 Ave SE could decomissioned.

[craner]

Deerfoot Trail improvements on the way:

http://https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/province-to-upgrade-bottleneck-section-of-deerfoot-trail-in-southeast

[msmariner]

Originally Posted by craner

Deerfoot Trail improvements on the way:

http://https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/province-to-upgrade-bottleneck-section-of-deerfoot-trail-in-southeast

With an election in the spring and the UCP and Danielle Smith on shaky ground I’d be surprised if this isn’t just an vote getting project. On top of that I doubt drawings, bids, contracts and everything else that goes with a massive project like this can be put together in a few months. Look how long the greenling process has taken. Actually look how long the rest of the promised Deerfoot trail upgrades that were announced early have taken and I don’t see any shovels in the ground for them yet.
So I’ll take this with a grain of salt 🫣

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by msmariner

On top of that I doubt drawings, bids, contracts and everything else that goes with a massive project like this can be put together in a few months.

I didn't see anywhere that this project is going the P3/DBFO route, thus there is time to work on the engineering, etc.

I could be horribly wrong...

[msmariner]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

I didn't see anywhere that this project is going the P3/DBFO route, thus there is time to work on the engineering, etc.

I could be horribly wrong...

I don’t think it is either. Though for a project of this scope it will take a few months for Construction companies to get bids together and on top of that a winning bid picked. Plus it’s a provincial project so it’ll take time to cross the “t”s and dot the “I”s. I just can’t see it getting to the point that shovels can be in the ground in 4+ months. Anyways just my opinion

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by msmariner

Plus it’s a provincial project so it’ll take time to cross the “t”s and dot the “I”s.

Definitely agree that the timeline is aggressive if not overly optimistic.

Sounds like you know your way around this space. The point I was trying to make is that since it's not P3 and more of a 'traditional' procurement, they don't have to negotiate/haggle over the T's and C's in the F and O parts of the P3. In my experience, those finance and lawyer types take longer to do their bit, than the engineers and construction folks do at the front end.

[msmariner]

Is some signs up on NB Deerfoot @ McNight. Usually they go up before construction starts. Cross my fingers they get going this spring

[O-tacular]

The construction company has been chosen and it's a Joint Venture. I am dealing with them right now. I didn't think it was actually happening but it sounds like it is.

[ace.yyc]

Just an additional northbound lane between McKnight and 64 Ave? That's the full scope?

[craner]

Just drove NB on Deerfoot - I noticed work happening at 64th Ave.

[YYCguys]

Originally Posted by ace.yyc

Just an additional northbound lane between McKnight and 64 Ave? That's the full scope?

It’s not a lot, is it? But for me, that extra lane will help when I merge onto Deerfoot from McKnight and it will give me a bit more time during rush hour to get over into a through lane. As it is currently, it’s a tad difficult to get over before you end up being unwillingly forced onto the 64th Ave exit.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by YYCguys

It’s not a lot, is it? But for me, that extra lane will help when I merge onto Deerfoot from McKnight and it will give me a bit more time during rush hour to get over into a through lane. As it is currently, it’s a tad difficult to get over before you end up being unwillingly forced onto the 64th Ave exit.

There is a website but it doesn't say what exactly they are doing aside from they are preparing for future works.

There is probably more detail in the tender documents, but I didn't see them easily. Will have to do more digging.

[craner]

Not much info:
http://https://www.deerfootimprovements.ca/improvement-areas/64-avenue-n-e/

[ace.yyc]

Originally Posted by YYCguys

It’s not a lot, is it? But for me, that extra lane will help when I merge onto Deerfoot from McKnight and it will give me a bit more time during rush hour to get over into a through lane. As it is currently, it’s a tad difficult to get over before you end up being unwillingly forced onto the 64th Ave exit.

Oh absolutely, it will make a huge difference relative to the cost. I mean "that's it" only in the context of the fact that the plans have changed so much over the last 3 years that I've lost track.