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Subsea Cloud
For Mangaluru, whether any of political party is ready to include Subsea Cloud Park in their Loksabha Election 2024 Manifesto?
Here are quotes from my earlier posts on subsea datacenters & relevant posts on IT based industrial scenario.
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Maximum height of the building will be Ground + 28 floors
If IT offices are also 29 floors then jobs capacity could be even 15,000.
Wonder whether they are trying for SEZ status!
I think Mangalore Internet City, BA Group Thumbe Township, Mohtisham Kannur Township, Goldfinch City together should generate at least 50,000 IT jobs. And Mudipu SEZ, GanjiMatt EPIP, Mangalore Multiproduct SEZ should also generate another 50,000 IT jobs.
I think Mangalore is also suited well for evolving cutting edge technology of subsea or underwater datacenters ( 2) as it is protected by Karwar Naval base and far way from reach of hostile countries or their naval/air bases. If this is materilized then lot more jobs can be generated in data center services including banking.
IT SEZ in Mangaluru and EPIP in DK
I think it is about existing Mudipu IT SEZ & Ganjimatt EPIP. Nothing new.
Mangaluru MP demands Union IT Minister for IT Park
Mangaluru MP should not forget about election promise of IT Park. He, Mohandas Pai, KV Kamath etc should together visit Ministry of Information Technology and finalize the project. Also demand for 'Pilot project of Underwater Data Center' at Mangalore.
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Google is also planning to install data centers on water. Earlier this year, Google patented ships with kites. Google plans to install data centers on these ships. Check this video that shows how these ships work.
Microsoft’s underwater data centers are designed to promote marine life. In fact, Microsoft calls them “artificial reef datacenters”.
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It is worth noting that artificial reefs can reduce sea erosion. And help in Marine Pharmacognosy.
Kinfotech Software plot withdrawn by government for slow progress
Let us hope that land will go to a company which is really interested in constructing a IT SEZ.
Women Entrepreneur Park in IT SEZ
So, land meant for IT are getting diverted to other purposes.
Managalore will not have IT Park but will have Common Instrumental Centre
When the parched city already have IT Park why Mangalore should not have one? Is coast is only for stealing water, spoiling with petrochemical, thermal power and desalination plants? What Mangalore MP doing against his election promise of IT Park?
Mangalore to be declared India’s first startup district
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Earlier efforts to start IT centres in Mangalore were not very successful as there were several issues at the local level. Mangalore South MLA JR Lobo said there were issues with the urban development department and the city municipal corporation.
“Every time an IT company proposes a shift to the tier-II city or an NRI comes up with an idea of giving back to their home town, these projects are welcomed with great fanfare but are never sanctioned as per their original plans. As a result, they are stuck due to bureaucratic hurdles,” he said.
To address these problems specific to the industry, the lawmaker, who is keen to promote the district, has called all stakeholders on to a common platform next month.
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Oh cosmos, whatever Mangaluru MP promised till today is not realized so far. Whether it is IT Park, Special Agricultural Zone, Coconut Park, Plastic Park, Maravoor Smart City, World Standard Railway Station or whatever else. Why? Why did he utter Medical Tourism now! Shouldn't he leave it for others to get it realized. And better not talk about Udupi MP.
Here are some extracts from my earlier post
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Anyway, let me summarize all things I mentioned so far here for making Mangaluru a mega medical/health city and medical/wellness/health tourism city.
- Declare Mangaluru, Udupi, Bantwal taluks as Medical Investment Region (or Dental & Cosmetics Investment Region) consisting of special economic zones for health cities and medical products manufacturing. This region should also support startups in biodental, biocosmetic and other biomedical/biomimetic engineering domains.
- Following National Laboratories
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- Subsea Data Centre for storing Health Informations (we have to also check whether Subsea Data Centre can facilitate growth of marine medicinal organisms)
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Mangaluru & Udupi need enough Centres of Excellences for Data Science to work on various domains in which they want to lead like Health Informatics including Pharmacy Informatics & Ayurinformatics, Marine Informatics, Petroleum/Manufacturing Informatics, Education Informatics, Tourism Informatics, Agriculture Informatics. And institutes like Alva's may be on weather/space informatics as exception but focusing on identified domains is better for avoiding brain drain. If Subsea Data Centre is feasible near Mangalore then it would be great! |
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Start-ups to get cheaper work space as Minister taps fund
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The facility, with a capacity of 60 seats, will be operational in a month. “Two days ago, I was in Mangaluru to inspect the space given by the municipality. I was so encouraged that all 60 seats have already been booked.”
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That means Mangaluru & Udupi need more seats. So, 'Instrumentation Incubator' & 'IT Park' are welcome. And hope, in near future, Mangaluru will even have cheaper 'Subsea Data Center' for startups requiring them.
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Dakshina Kannada's total GDP stands at INR 142.90 billion contributing 4.8% to state GSDP - based on 2011 data?
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Mangaluru is state’s next start-up destination
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On why Mangaluru has an edge over Bengaluru, he said, Mangaluru’s advantange is ease of working, proximity and commuting time is less in Mangaluru. Quality of Life Index is high here. The population is literate. “This can be ascertained through the GST registration and migration figures. When Karnataka’s average was 70 per cent, on June 15 the registration for GST and migration in Dakshina Kananda revenue district including Udupi was 92 per cent, indicating that we are 22 per cent above the state average. People are business savy. There are about 1.2 lakh registered dealers in the revenue district. When it comes to compliance rating, the district enjoys a top position. The revenue and tax collection rates are also high,” KCCI president said.
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Those are immediate benefits, in future they (including labour cost) may or may not be there as city expands, wages get normalized. Now there may be a scenario of IT/ITES companies searching for more economical destinations as global economy is receding 1. If we can convince that shifting to coastal region will also end up in long term benefits who knows industries may start shifting.
Permanent benefits to IT/BT will come in the form of emerging technologies like SWAC (savings in air conditioning cost), subsea data centre (savings in energy for cooling data centre) etc. In addition all industries (irrespective of whether IT/BT or not) or employees will benefit from water cost, power transmission cost, water transportation etc. (I don't know whether the parched city users pay any extra amount to cover power transmission cost compared to cities/regions which are source of power production).
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We have to develop at least one 'Knowledge City' or any of cities mentioned above or an 'IT/BT Park' of 40 acres with Sea Water Air Conditioning ( SWAC 2 3 4 5 6). Even MSEZ can try to have about 40 acres IT/BT SWAC city within its premises. Even incomplete Raheja Waterfront is suitable for SWAC and there are many more such sites near sea. Now there is also a new trend to come up with community based IT/BT/Startup townships, that could also be a SWAC township. Even NIT-K can think of converting itself into a SWAC township. Having said that nobody can stop us from planning for SWAC as a part of area based development under smart city project itself.  , our politicians could not get even allocation/reallocation of Rs 5 crore subsidy for terrace/indoor gardening under smart city project!
Cold seawater is even used for refrigeration. All kinds of cold storage facilities can use cold seawater after exchange with fresh water (or directly for fish cold storage facilities?).
Remnant temperature of cold freshwater after usage for airconditioning of buildings can be used for either cooling of agricultural polyhouses or cooling of waterbodies like lakes (cooling lakes will also decrease evaporational loss) as mentioned in the link Curaçao Airport - Seawater Air Conditioning project. So, it could be a better idea to incorporate urban agriculture in a few of proposed cluster port cities along with SWAC. We can also explore the possibile usage of seawater greenhouse though it is designed for arid climate & may increase salinity of sea due to release of more saline water to sea.
As I posted earlier for freshwater small coastal reservoirs of average height of 3.5 meters can be filled by rainwater falling on sea itself. ( ‘Rainfall to increase over next 100 years’ - although truth of simulation depends upon parameters considered result means quick evacuation of terrace water to reservoir suggested earlier is useful to avoid floods). Even pipeline can be laid to store additional flow after rainy season as there is flow till March in rivers like Netravati. Talapady, Someshwar, Tannirbhavi, Kulai, Surathkl, Mulki, Padubidri, Kapu etc are ideal locations to have SWAC cities.
Unless India decreases its IT/BT development cost utilizing things like SWAC other countries may snatch away future business from India. Mauritius has already many Data Centers cooled by SWAC and ICT industry of Mauritius 2 is doing well. The SWAC usage in cities of developed countries like Honolulu 1, Singapore 1, Copenhagen 1 or a city of any of Gulf countries may not mean immediate threat but large developing thirdworld countries with cheap labour opting for this and building their own IT abilities may be a great threat to Indian IT industry.
The research paper here talks about worldwide potential of SWAC - Technical potential and cost estimates for seawater air conditioning 2 3.
Wonder whether installing Ocean Energy - Wave Power Station of Wells turbine 2 3 4 type placed adjacent to each other has potential to decrease sea erosion by diverting away erosional energy of waves into useful electrical energy though their efficiency is less. What we may need is a wall (a marine drive?) of wave energy stations of this kind to act against erosion. This kind of turbine seems to be safe for marine life as no water comes in contact with turbine blades. Sand deposition may be a issue to be addressed. Tidal levels & raise in sealevel due to climate change has also be addressed. Hope some college students will come up with demonstrable model of this type of wave energy generator soon. The strength of waves hitting shore can also be reduced by other types of turbines 1 2 3 near shore. And as I posted earlier there is also high possibility of using Ocean Thermal Energy 2 3 as ocean surface temperature at this region is supposed to be high 1 (though we proved risk of flood is low compared to many other cities of India & the world) though this may not remedy sea erosion as facilities are more than 3 km offshore.
The link - 6 - already listed above talks about ' cold aquaculture' 2 using nutrient rich deepsea cold water and ' cold agriculture' or ' chilled-soil agriculture' and agriculture by chilled-water cooling of polyhouse/coolinghouse using remnant temperature of cold water after usage for a/c of buildings or OTEC plants. Also climate control is also a good possibility to explore but has to be done carefully with full knowledge of consequences. If temperature of sea near shore is decreased artificially like this than thousands of fishermen will be benefited due to increased flora & fauna but we have to address salinity.
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Investors summit in city soon, tax will be reduced: Shettar
Investors meet in M’luru shortly, says Jagadish Shettar DHNS 2020-03-01 page 3
Indian Coast Guard Academy.[/I]
Karnad Industrial Area is about 1,500 meters away from seashore. To explore feasibility of Sea Water Airconditioning ( SWAC) site has to be as near to sea as possible but we have to abide by CRZ rules. What we need is a bold begining to start SWAC trend as initial expenditure will be high like any other green building though operational savings are high. What are the possibility of SWAC resort in Tannirbhavi? Whether agreement between IGBC and MSCL can be extended to SWAC also assuming that IGBC has enough knowledge on SWAC and urban agriculture (if remnant temperature of water after airconditioning of buildings should be used for urban farming). Vacant land of Padubidri SEZ could also be explored for SWAC IT/BT. Fishermen may object for laying pipeline for that possibility of cold aquaculture has to be explored. Probable SWAC can be presented as a selling point in Mangaluru Investors Summit. |
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ದೇರೆಬೈಲ್_ನಲ್ಲಿ ಸಿದ್ಧವಾಗಲಿದೆ “ಮಂಗಳೂರು ಐಟಿ ಪಾರ್ಕ್ 2
Summa: Preparations are going on for building IT Park in 40% of 4 acres land near AJ Medical College, Derebail to generate more than 2,000 jobs and remaining 60% of land will be used for residence and other infrastructure development to facilitate work from home concept.
Good that the government has opted for 'Integrated IT Park' (by definition IT Park itself is a cluster; rather than 'work from home' Integrated IT Park will support 'walk to work'; better one is 'work from anywhere'). In the next stage, once IT Park is realized by any chance, we can go for a bigger 'Integrated IT Township' with SWAC facility. We can even plan for SWAC Data Centres 1 or related ones like floating data centres 1 or subsea data centres 1. In the mean time, our educational institutes can start teaching these types of data centres to relevant students.
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Proposal for Karnataka Fisheries University submitted
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Under the proposal, Fisheries has set a target of increasing the fish landings up to 70 lakh tonnes. Establishing a first of its kind data centre in India, an Information repository, was also included in the proposal, Naik added.
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What kind of data centre? Will it have data storage systems & supercomputers? If so, explore for subsea/underwater data centre 1 2 or floating data centre 1 2 cooled by seawater or inland data centre cooled by seawater. We can even dream for subsea data centre manufacturing facility!
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ನೀಲಿ ಆರ್ಥಿಕತೆ ಅಭಿವೃದ್ಧಿಯ ಹೊಸ ಬೀಜ 2
Summa: Coastal Karnataka districts are expecting economic boom through blue economy. Blue economy policy is expected to give boost to ocean environment through sustainable exploitation of ocean assets covering areas like water transportation, marine tourism, marine biotechnology, seawater desalination plants, offshore oil & gas exploration, coastal roads, deepsea fisheries, cage culture, seaweed farming, offshore wind power plants, ship building & repair, waste management, marine biodiversity.
What about deep sea mining for minerals explored through GSI through environmentally sustainable technologies, SWAC, underwater data centres? Any engineering college working on underwater drones? I think once ICGA becomes functional it may hold underwater drone 2 competitions for students.
Underwater garage in Mangaluru to repair boats
First underwater garage in state to repair boats in water
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Later we should plan for SWAC based Electronics City when SWAC and subsea data centres become fashion.
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One fine day we may even have underwater robots.
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But I think the coast of Mangaluru taluk is more suitable for SWAC, subsea data center etc. We should explore more this possibility.
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1MWp solar farm off M’luru coast soon
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Mangaluru: The coastal waters will soon generate solar power as a France-based company is all set to come up with an offshore solar farm, about 10 nautical miles off Surathkal light house. The 1MWp offshore pilot project solar farm invested by a France based company, through its India-based subsidiary SolarinBlue Energy, will supply power to MESCOM.
According to Kapil Sharma, co-founder, SolarinBlue, it has already secured all necessary permission from local bodies, Union government and others. Sharma says if all goes well, the solar farm work will start from first quarter of 2024. “The site is located about 10 nautical miles from the shore, at 19m depth for a total surface area of 200m x 200m. The project will help decarbonize electricity generation for more than 1.5GWh per year, the equivalent of the electricity consumption of more than 7,000 households,” he said.
Sharma said the firm had conducted their survey across India and they first zeroed in on Kerala, but finally decided on Mangaluru. “First reason was that sea-bed here is apt for the project and solar farm can be anchored well. Secondly, government policies and other aspects,” he said. The firm has conducted all feasibility tests. Sharma added that once the pilot project is implemented, it will start solar power generation from 45kw power generation and scale upto 1MWp. “The project in the near future aims to provide large employment opportunities especially to those from fishermen community,” said Sharma.
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So now, the government can plan for sea-based electricity for Green Hydrogen & Ammonia production!
Now, even for Subsea Data Centers electricity can be supplied from near by sea-based power plant. Hope that Adani will plan for Subsea Data Centers for Data Park at Yellur.
I wonder whether there could be combined solar+wave or wind+wave energy to electricity converters which could be mounted on single installation on sea! And then ocean current as third addition! ref: net-zero data centre
Mangaluru having stable seabed is definitely a help towards net-zero data centre! 1 2
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Currently Nxtra has an edge datacenter in Mangaluru as per the news (I don't know its address).
By the way Subsea Cloud 2 is a company name. But, I have used "Subsea Cloud Park" to mean a cluster of net-zero underwater datacenters with captive power facilities like offshore wind/solar farms by different companies.
So far we have seen that Mangaluru seabed is stable hence good for building net-zero datacenters. Still I have a doubt on whether sea temperature 1 & ocean current is suitable enough for building datacenters here.
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For proposed Adani Data Park at Yellur, Udupi one major threat is the objection by Karnataka government to handing over Mangaluru International Airport (MIA) to Adani Group. Note that these project proposals (Data Park + Adani University) by Adani are associated with the future growth of MIA. We can only guess without proof against anybody that the reasons for the objection as (1) money extortion from the group (political mafia want to make quick money when in power) (2) the pressure from real estate mafia *1 of the monstrous city not to allow the growth of probable subsea datacenters hence IT growth in the coastal regions of Karnataka which may result in hindrance to future IT growth in the monstrous city because of economical unviability hence hindrance to real estate mafia business. But I doubt whether legally they can nullify the agreement with the Adani group on MIA. By the way, why objection only on MIA? Why not on privatization of the montrous city airport? (*1. politicians may argue that real estate mafia is present in Mangaluru also but we know that power & influence of mafia here is negligible compared to the monstrous city real estate mafia).
Okay. The promise of IT Park made in I think 2014 Loksabha Election manifesto is not yet fulfilled hence "Subsea Cloud Park" would be more than an ambitious dream. Still nothing wrong in putting people into dreams during election times!
Rs 4.7 lakh crore proposals from GIM 2022 realised
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But the government has not followed up on investment proposals worth Rs 1 lakh crore from the Adani Group. Sources suggest that given the “politically sensitive” climate, the industries department is unlikely to “push” for commitments from the group.
“Had it been any other company, we may have followed upsince it is a big chunk,” said an official. The officials said the group was welcome to present its investment proposals on its own. It is said Adani Group’s proposals are mostly to expand areas of existing businesses like the Udupi thermal power plant and operations and management of Mangaluru International Airport.
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Karnataka minister says ‘open to doing business with Adani’, sparks row
Hypocrisy at its best: Adani welcomed in Congress-ruled Karnataka
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Karnataka to oppose handover of Mangaluru international airport to Adani
Some entities profited from the report of Hindenburg on Adani Group, says SC lawyer Mahesh Agarwal
Adani Group to invest Rs 1 lakh crore in Karnataka over 7 years
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Mangaluru International Airport (owned by Adani Airport Holdings, a subsidiary of Adani Group), is undergoing a facelift and "we will be expanding that airport as well", the CEO said.
Adani Wilmar is increasing its presence in the coastal Karnataka town of Mangaluru, he added.
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It is clear from the following news article that it is not programmes like "Beyond the Monstrous Cities" which are forcing IT industries to move towards tier-II/III cities but economical viability & other reasons. It is not the politicalmafia or bureaucracymafia but awareness of NRI IT entrepreneurs which is driving IT growth in tier-II/III cities.
Tier-2 tech hubs: Telangana sets pace for India
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